New, Excited, and Thrifty

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mmudder

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Hello!

I've been a smoker for 23 years. Recently, I got a job that does not give breaks. So, I decided to try electronic cigarettes just to get my nicotine fix while remaining inside the work place. There were a few brands available at work. I chose a small kit called 21st Century Smoke for $39.99. The cartriges supposed to offer 300 puffs, and five of them cost $14.99. Seeing as 300 puffs would equal about 2 packs of real cigs, the equivalent of a carton would run about $14.99 and $1.50 per pack. That isn't bad in comparison with what pre-rolled cigarettes cost now-a-days.

However, I roll my own cigarettes with a machine. The machine ran me $45. I can get one bag of pipe tobacco for around $10 and 500 tubes for $10. In short, I can roll a little over 2 cartons worth of cigs for $21.05 after taxes. This breaks down to around $1.05 per pack - probably a little less because I can get more than 2 cartons worth of cigs out of that.

As you can tell, cost effectiveness is a huge issue for me. I worry about the accessories needed to keep up with electronic cigarettes. Having read somewhere that the batteries don't last for very long without having to replace them, I fear that the cost of that upkeep along with cartriges would run into much more money than I am willing to spend.

Is there a better way to go about switching to electronic cigs than what I've started to do? I know that you can get empty cartriges and refill them from some sort of liquid. What is the cost breakdown of that in comparison of packs/cartons of the cigs that I roll myself? I don't mind spending a little more than I do now. After all, my health would certainly be much better. The real question is, could I afford it, heh. College, single mom of two, part-time work, you get the picture.

How many packs of cigs can you get out of a bottle of the liquid refills? How often would I need to replace batteries if I bought a top-of-the-line electronic cigarette kit? How durable are the components?

Any and all information that any of you would be willing to share would be excessively helpful and appreciated. I want to make healthier choices for myself, and for my kids. Second-hand smoke is horrid.

Thanks
 

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once you find a brand/type you like the liquid is cheap. and you sound thrifty, you can even mix it yourself. for me it comes out to about $1 a bottle that last a couple weeks.

the actual device is different, you can start with smaller stuff but its usually done and gone when it wears out or some of the slightly higher end with rechargable batteries you replace, usually 5-10 bucks a battery and they last about a year.

more suggestions incoming im sure but stay tuned and keep reading....... im burning dinner lol

first you have to decide on your target budget range and we can all go from there.

but definately move on from the ecigs as you see the cartridge trick isn really a savings and thats where they get you as you soon find out they hold nowhere near the stated amount.
 
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Although alot of us that vape tend to go crazy buying all different juices and gadgets at first, you don't have to approach vaping that way if you are on a real tight budget. You could get a decent starter kit for about $50. There are many different options as far as cartomizers and clearomizers and atomizers to use, but there's no point in confusing you. A 30 ml bottle of eliquid can last you anywhere from one week to 3 weeks, depending on how much you vape. For me, I spend about $2.80 approx. every 2 weeks for a head on my clearomizer, and I make my own eliquid at about $1.80 a bottle, which lasts me at least a week if not more. So all in all, once you get what you need, it's way way way cheaper than rolling your own. And don't be fooled by that kit that promises 300 puffs, cause they don't usually last that long and they don't usually have a strong enough battery to give you the umph in your chest and throat hit you really need to keep vaping and not go back to cigs. So if you got the kit already, just keep in mind if it's not strong enough or you find you have to charge the batteries like every 2 hours, there are much better options out there! :)
 

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I think the cost of vaping is fairly similiar to RYO. It's not going to be cheaper. But you aren't smoking! Think how great that is.

Unfortunately, 1 cartomizer is not 300 puffs. It's very misleading to tell someone that. In fact, you won't find a registered supplier here on this forum that will tell you that. The average person vapes anywhere from 2-5 ml of e-liquid per day depending on the device. The small, prefilled cartomizers that come with the kit you purchased probably hold between .5 - .75 ml of liquid. New people tend to vape more in the beginning, so you'd probably go through a minimum of 4 cartomizers (they call cartridges) a day.

Depending on the type of battery on your pv, you could purchase empty cartomizers and fill them yourself. Much more cost efficient to do that. If you really want to save, after you've been vaping awhile visit our DIY section. You can really make your own liquid for a fraction of the cost.

Most batteries have about 200 charges. Depending on how many times a day you charge them, they should last a few months. If you have automatic batteries (no button) keep them very clean to prolong the life of the battery.
 

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I can not only vape way cheaper than you, but I can also still help others vape and make them juice, and still vape cheaper than you. LOL. Plus I feel alot better and haven't had to pay to see a doc for bronchitis since I started vaping, and don't have to pay for that nasal spray prescription I used to have to use every night.
 

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Howdy!!

I used to smoke between a pack to a pack n a half of camel wides a day.

I now use (mainly) a young june lavatube 1.5t with kanger t2's, t3's and vision vivi novas. I go through about 30ml of Heathers Heavenly Vapes, Top Quality Custom E-Liquids 'Gandalf' a week on average. Some days I vape heavily and other days a little less, but I average about a bottle a week.

Not sure if that helps you but I hope it does.
 

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I can't find any information. Maybe someone that has one will know, but it appears to be a 4081 battery. Don't quote me on that though. You may find someone who sells cartomizers for the 4081 battery or get an adapter. Maybe someone will point you in the right direction.

You may love this- I hope you do. But I wouldn't spend a huge amount of money buying accessories for it. There are inexpensive pvs out there with easy to find accessories.
 

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Howdy!!

I used to smoke between a pack to a pack n a half of camel wides a day.

I now use (mainly) a young june lavatube 1.5t with kanger t2's, t3's and vision vivi novas. I go through about 30ml of Heathers Heavenly Vapes, Top Quality Custom E-Liquids 'Gandalf' a week on average. Some days I vape heavily and other days a little less, but I average about a bottle a week.

Not sure if that helps you but I hope it does.

Tanks can be juice hogs. I use about double with a tank
 

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My VIVI mini is a juice hog also, more so than KangerT2 or any other Vision ive used.
heck ya i can vape 2-2 ml easy at lunch break with my mini nova.


If your really bent on the ecig style at least switch to the joy 510's or the kr808-d as they have more accesories, before i stepped up i found clearos for my 808's

the 21st century is some cheap knock off of a cheap knockoff. and even prefilled carts from another source are better then that prepackaged junk from china.
 
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I think (honestly) your best bet is to get another starter kit,,,,,,,808s or 510 connections,,,,,and buy blank cartos and juice to refill.

Once you've learned a bit more, there are many juices that are simple to DIY. It costs me about 1.29 for 30ml of juice,,,,,which is a good thing, because I go thorugh 2-3 30ml bottles a week,,,,,I vape a lot. But considering I used to spend 75.00 a week on cigarettes,,,,,,I'm thrilled.

When people first start vaping, however, they usually go with tobacco flavored juices, which, IMHO, are more difficult to replicate. Fruit flavors are very easy to replicate, however, especially single or two flavored juices,,,,,,they require little to no steeping, and can be vaped pretty much instantly :)
 

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there are tanks called clearomizers, it is what it sounds like a little tank filled with fluid
GotVapes VISION Replaceable Stardust 1.6ml w/ 2.4ohm Long Wick [gv-RebuildableSTARDUST-1.6ml-2.4] - $6.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

then there are bigger versions
GotVapes VISION ViVi NOVA™ 3.5ml V2.5 REBUILDABLE TANK [gv-VIVINOVA-TANKV2.5] - $12.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

then there are tanks that have the little cartridge inside them, called carto tanks. people say these taste awesome.

SMOKtech DCT Tank - 6.5ml 1.5ohm Dual Coil Acrylic Tank - CLEAR [gv-smoktechDCT-TANK-6ml-CLEAR] - $11.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

with vaping - the crap on the store shelf is just the tip, now you get to see how far down the rabbit hole really goes. keep asking
 
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I might use 5ml of juice a day on a day where I'm constantly vaping. Since I make it myself it works out to about $1.50 a day for the liquid. Over the past three months I've spent at least $130 on the stuff to make the e-liquid. I've had one Joyetech ego battery since July and another since September plus a twist that I just recently added to my stash. I've probably gone through $30 worth of clearomizers. I'm not even going to try to add up the other set up I bought with its tanks and atomizers. Plus I make liquids to give to friends who recently started vaping until they can find vendors that they like. I'd say I'm using supplies that add up to about $15 a week right now...much cheaper than the $35 I was spending on cigarettes.
 
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