New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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When you fill the did tank, are people getting overflow through the wick hole? I seem to lose juice this way even if the did is dry in the tank. Maybe I need to tilt the did when filling with needle. Best way to top off did??
I did initially. Make sure that there is space around the filler needle and dry the needle off if there is juice on the outside. Then put it straight into the tank and push the liquid in quickly. Very little will come out the wick with the fast filling method.
 

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When you fill the did tank, are people getting overflow through the wick hole? I seem to lose juice this way even if the did is dry in the tank. Maybe I need to tilt the did when filling with needle. Best way to top off did??



I get the same thing happening sometimes. I just put the needle all the way to the bottom of the tank tilting the tank with wick side at top and fill hole downwards then just fill it VERY VERY SLOWLY and that solves the issue. I can never get it completely full and I don't think your suppose to. I always have a very small air bubble in mine and after 2 fairly hard dry pulls the vacuum is right and it wicks like crazy.
 

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I was able to get on call from work and got the chance to setup the DID. I was hoping to be one of those lucky ones and set it up perfectly first go round, but no such luck,lol I'm getting e1 and e2 errors on the provari not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. I imagine there's a short somewhere as I'm getting little vapor and a burnt flavor. The third coil I made had better vapor but still getting a burnt flavor. Ive gone through half a tank and the wick is wicking the juice well. I oxidized the wick per all the suggestions and used the cig paper as well. I noticed that the top coil glows red, maybe thats the culprit. I'm glad I got 200' of coil to play with as I'm thinking I'm in for a steep learning curve with this thing. It does look badass though :)

The glowing coil will destroy your flavour and give you that burnt taste. Keep adjusting until you eliminate this. You are looking for even coil tension in every spot of the coil. Make sure you can take the wick out and insert it back into the coils with an absolute minimum amount of friction apparent (and without disturbing the position of the coils), but still snug enough to hold the wick in position within the coils. I found this helped quite a bit.
 

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What makes this any better than just using a single fat wick? Seems like more trouble than it's worth to me.

Rick,,, what it seems to do for some reason is intensify the flavor for some reason, just try it, I just happened to put the smaller wick into the bigger one, all I can say is my flavor doubled. the inside wick has a very small hole and the two wicks just seem to work super for me, just passing on something I found buddy.
 

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Guys I just found one helluva wick set up that works super in the DID, it's the DUAL WICK set up. Make a regular fat size wick for your DID like normal, then roll up a 2nd wick smaller with a small hole , Oxidize both and get them ready like normal.. Then slide the smaller wick into the bigger one and do what ever wrap you normally do. This set up helps pull more liquid into the wick system and just for some reason WORKS GREAT, and the flavor is out of this freaking word. JUST TRY THIS, I've been hitting one of these for the last 2 hours and I haven't ever had anything better. This DUAL WICK one inside of the other is a MUST TRY the smaller one should fit snug into the bigger one and the inside wick has a small hole running up the center

Very similar to another poster in the wicks and tips area of the rebuildable atty thread. Here is the link:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/311418-my-ss-wick-trick.html
 

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Very similar to another poster in the wicks and tips area of the rebuildable atty thread. Here is the link:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/311418-my-ss-wick-trick.html


Similar but not the same, he is rolling his together, I'm dropping one wick inside of the other, a bit different. I was just messing around last night and decided to try this and I really like it. You leave a big hole in the first outside wick, then with that 2nd wick you make it so it is just big enough to twist into the first wick, and the hole going up the smaller wick is very small, the juice is actually coming up two different places, in between the two wicks and up through the hole in the small wick so your getting more juice to the coil area and for some reason this is working super. Mine is at 2.4ohm and the flavor is just amazing and great vapor, I'm going to be making mine ONLY this way from now on its to dam good.
 
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Similar but not the same, he is rolling his together, I'm dropping one wick inside of the other, a bit different. I was just messing around last night and decided to try this and I really like it. You leave a big hole in the first outside wick, then with that 2nd wick you make it so it is just big enough to twist into the first wick, and the hole going up the smaller wick is very small, the juice is actually coming up two different places, in between the two wick and up through the hole in the small wick so your getting more juice to the coil area and for some reason this is working super. Mine is at 2.4ohm and the flavor is just amazing and great vapor, I'm going to be making mine ONLY this way from now on its to dam good.

I'm going to have to try this. I can actually see how increased capillary action would result from this method. Good tip. I'm almost afraid to try anything new however as I'm getting superb results as it is with a completely 'conventional' setup.
 

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@ fuzzione,

I here what your saying about the stock set up, but you just nailed it, its that dual capillary action, what is happening is the liquid is coming up in between the two wicks and also coming up the center hole of the smaller wick. with the DID having such a bigger wick opening then previous Genesis units I was sitting there staring at my set up and it just smacked me in the face telling me to twist this 2nd wick in the bigger one, as soon as it broke in with in 5 minutes the flavor was crazy good :) Try this.
 

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What makes this any better than just using a single fat wick? Seems like more trouble than it's worth to me.
I like using the least amount of wick material that I can get by with. This way the battery and coil are more efficient to vaporize the juice instead of transferring a bunch of energy to all the material in a fat/ thick wick. (think wick = heat sink)
I cut them 20MM & fold it about 3mm & roll it, and oxidize. It fires instant & with no wicking problems at all using VG & 325 mesh. I vape it @ horizontal or below.
 

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Jim, thanks for doing this, but everyone: am I the only one who feels that we should get him a gift? :)

Jim, can you please answer my question about whether it is possible to get a larger airhole in my next order? Thank you.


Well I have to put the enquiries in an order
I try to make as many thinks together as I can
I will make 1,5mm airhole soon!
I have some pieces with 1mm hole though
 

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I like using the least amount of wick material that I can get by with. This way the battery and coil are more efficient to vaporize the juice instead of transferring a bunch of energy to all the material in a fat/ thick wick. (think wick = heat sink)
I cut them 20MM & fold it about 3mm & roll it, and oxidize. It fires instant & with no wicking problems at all using VG & 325 mesh. I vape it @ horizontal or below.

Yup that's the original and it works no doubt about it, but so does this way too with the dual wick, as far as energy I really dont see to big of a difference on my Darwin when it comes to vape time what so ever, its the same a 2.5ohm coil is a 2.5ohm coil no matter how you make it your watts, volts, and energy is going to be the same running either wick how I see it lazerrred.

Bringing more juice to the coil element and holding it there isnt such a bad idea Lazerrred and that's what this does, this dual wick brings and holds more juice to the coil area, which results in more flavor for me.

I'm not forcing anyone to do this by any means, whatever works for one is what they should use for sure.
 
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Jim,

Are you still planing on making =

1. a Grommet for the wick opening hole ?

2. a SS center pole with SS Screws ?

Propable the grommet is the insert?
This is more dificult but I will see some experts of injection systems
SS center and nuts next week
 

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@ fuzzione,

I here what your saying about the stock set up, but you just nailed it, its that dual capillary action, what is happening is the liquid is coming up in between the two wicks and also coming up the center hole of the smaller wick. with the DID having such a bigger wick opening then previous Genesis units I was sitting there staring at my set up and it just smacked me in the face telling me to twist this 2nd wick in the bigger one, as soon as it broke in with in 5 minutes the flavor was crazy good :) Try this.

Think I'll try this, was wondering if you had tried 2 mesh type? ie, 325 inside, 400 out? wonder if that might boost it even more.
 

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As a small way to show my appreciation I would like to make a lotary in this thread for my existing customers.
As we can see, when this list grows, each registering reply will take up too much space and more than a screen page for sure. Since Excel can import txt file with "," (comma) delimiter, it could reduce the viewing page by a factor of 20X. This is what we could do. Copy the list, add a "," and a space, then add your order number(s).

Please copy ALL the post put your order numbers AFTER the last one AND PUT A COMMA

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The E1 error means too much voltage.Loosen the DID so it's not making contact. Then lower your voltage to around 3.0v. You should be able to check your ohms at this point, and set voltage accordingly. Hope this helps.

I am of no help with the E1 errors.
The small o-rings go on the center post. It shows in either Jim's initial video or Scott's review. Both are great videos, so it might help with the error to watch them.
 
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