New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

[dspin]

Thank you all for the great responses. I am leaning between the DID and the GG IAtty 2. I like them both, and both seem easy and tend to be about the same in the leak-proof dept. I just recently ordered the steam machine VST, so Im waiting on it to get here. Its so hard to decide. They both are gorgeous and perform like mad fog machines. I know the wait on the Iatty2 is about 5 months, so I may well go with the DID. I know either will be heaven. Im in agony, with this decision. I guess I will think on it some more. Im not in a big hurry, I guess I should play around with my little Phoenix and the steam machine. I should see if rebuilding is even what I like. I will continue to lurk on this forum and the GG site. Oh heck if I do like the RA experience I will most likely follow suit and have more than one........But which one first?

Thanks guys and gals

Sorry my friend, the Odyss and DID are not the same in the leak proof dept. However, both are excellent and you would be estatic to have both. Each tastes diff than the other with same juice. One uses SS mesh - the other fiber wick.. Just saying - so you will be well informed.


In a side note - all genisis attys are diff in vape,, flavor, construction. Same as the GG attys. You can't get one type of genisis and figure they are all the same - not true. Thats why I have 3 DID's


IMO - as of today - the DID is the best genisis atty. The Odyss small mode is the best of fiber wick rba's

 

[yankeebobo]

Almost all my tobacco flavours vape beautifully in the DID, but there are one or two it doesn't like. I think the problem with tobacco's may lie in some of the flavourings contained in the mix that are simply brought out 'too much' in the DID thus spoiling the intended balance of the blend. The one or two not DID-suitable vape fine in a carto/tank setup for me and I think it's because the filler material mutes some of the flavours which in fact is a good thing for some of the blends out there.

What I find really helps the tobacco flavours is a vv device where dialing in a few tenths of a volt up or down can significantly affect the flavour produced.

I tried it with a kick on Paps, I've had it on a non-kicked 3.7 stock, I've tried it on a Provari dialing it down by the .1s. I just couldn't find it's "sweet spot". And with my vaping, if I can't find a sweet spot, I either discard the juice or find a device where I can. I've hammered this juice in a DID for a few weeks looking, dialing down, dialing up, etc. It just fails. It used to be a tank/carto. And I may eventually find it needs to go there, but right now, I've got it in a penny and it's much nicer there.

Out of curiosity, when you ran the Boba's in it, did you have the fill hole plugged, or open?

Tried both. And when I did try both, I tried to be fair and leave it that way for a solid day AT LEAST. It doesn't wick well with the screw in. I've tried fat wicks, skinnier wicks, different gauge wires, different wrap numbers. Some work better than others, don't get me wrong. But Boba's has a smooth blend and it always missed one or more ingredients in it. Many times it just tasted metallic.

 

[WNCmotard]

Sorry my friend, the Odyss and DID are not the same in the leak proof dept. However, both are excellent and you would be estatic to have both. Each tastes diff than the other with same juice. One uses SS mesh - the other fiber wick.. Just saying - so you will be well informed.


In a side note - all genisis attys are diff in vape,, flavor, construction. Same as the GG attys. You can't get one type of genisis and figure they are all the same - not true. Thats why I have 3 DID's


IMO - as of today - the DID is the best genisis atty. The Odyss small mode is the best of fiber wick RBA's

Out of all of them, which is the most leak proof for all day carry? I'm buying a DID either way.

 

[dspin]

Hey Yankee, I don't like any of my beloved extracted tobacs in any genisis. However, someday that may change.

 

[dspin]

Out of all of them, which is the most leak proof for all day carry? I'm buying a DID either way.

Odyss or Penelope does not leak - Period. I would not carry them around everywhere if they did. I have never had a genisis that didn't leak, especially when full or even half full. That is just how genisis is. Around 1/4 full or so you can lay it down flat. I just bought a wood stand to have them in. When I'm home - all I ever vape is genisis. To go around pinching the wick, sealing the fill hole - all that does is ruin the flavor and vapor. It diminishes them, IMO.

This information is from my having personally OWNED 10 genisis attys and one hybrid genisis mod.


Some people carry them upright in their shirt pocket so they don't leak - thats not for me. I must transport anything I own - first in a velour pouch and then in a leather cigar case. Then that is in a 511 Tactical bag along with other e-cig stuff. Thats me though.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Funny how people's tastes differ. I had completely given up on tobacco flavors until I got my first DID. I really enjoy Boba's, Gorilla Juice and IKV RY4 now and have added them back into my rotation. Still love my fruit flavors, but always keep one DID dedicated to tobacco.

 

[yankeebobo]

Hey Yankee, I don't like any of my beloved extracted tobacs in any genisis. However, someday that may change.

And I remember you posting this a few times. I think others have as well, but you came to mind. That's why I finally caved to the results and moved it.

Just as a side note to others - it's only this one juice I struggle with. I have fruity, I have pepp/choc, etc work fine. Better than fine. So I'm not worried anymore. I just gave in.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

As a DIYer, my thoughts

Vendor juices are overdone, possibly by design, because you don't realize they're overflavored in a carto. Cartos mute flavor and add their own 'notes' which an overflavored juice works well with

A good atty, RBA, or DID X2 boosts flavors, or perhaps lets them shine without interference

So my own tobacco blends I've had to cut down and tweak by at least 50% to make DID friendly, a little less to make atty friendly. Case in point a pipe blend of mine was cut from 15% total flavor down to about 4%.

I vape unflavored or unflavored + menthol these days 90% of the time, and part of the reason is, the 'flavor' is so damn good and rich in the DID (and my other Geny) it leaves me wanting nothing else. Excellent news for me, as I think flavorings are most likely the least safe thing about vaping, though not particularly dangerous

I've been using a snus extract in my DID for a week or so now, its amazing. Of course it burns and gunks after about a tank despite filtration, but I like to flush and clean every tank anyway...

 

[Ravenscroft]

I use tobacco juice almost exclusively and they shine in my DiD's. I make my own using some Ozzie concentrates which maybe Dekang based and some Hangsen ones.Beautiful!

I have used El Torro that are tobacco steeped and are nice but clog the wick and coil before the day is out.

RC

 

[yankeebobo]

Funny how people's tastes differ. I had completely given up on tobacco flavors until I got my first DID. I really enjoy Boba's, Gorilla Juice and IKV RY4 now and have added them back into my rotation. Still love my fruit flavors, but always keep one DID dedicated to tobacco.

That's exactly it. This is just re-enforcing what I've learned. Some flavors just taste better, some worse, but it's all still a matter of taste.

I use tobacco juice almost exclusively and they shine in my DiD's. I make my own using some Ozzie concentrates which maybe Dekang based and some Hangsen ones.Beautiful!

I have used El Torro that are tobacco steeped and are nice but clog the wick and coil before the day is out.

RC

And THIS is a lot of my problem. This clog and gunked coil changes the flavor. Until this clog happens, the flavor is good in my opinion. It just clogs so damn fast. Kinda like a bad relationship. Sometimes you just agree to go seperate ways. In my case, I just love Boba's too much, so I moved it to a better 'partner'.

 

[MiriamWTH]

Thank you all for the great responses. I am leaning between the DID and the GG IAtty 2. I like them both, and both seem easy and tend to be about the same in the leak-proof dept. I just recently ordered the steam machine VST, so Im waiting on it to get here. Its so hard to decide. They both are gorgeous and perform like mad fog machines. I know the wait on the Iatty2 is about 5 months, so I may well go with the DID. I know either will be heaven. Im in agony, with this decision. I guess I will think on it some more. Im not in a big hurry, I guess I should play around with my little Phoenix and the steam machine. I should see if rebuilding is even what I like. I will continue to lurk on this forum and the GG site. Oh heck if I do like the RA experience I will most likely follow suit and have more than one........But which one first?

Thanks guys and gals

The only thing i can say here is that my personal preference goes to SS wicks over silica. I find if I use silica wicks in my rebuildables I start coughing and have a scratchy throat in no time. My guess is that it is from tiny silica fibers getting loose from the wick and being inhaled by me.
I now also use a SS mesh wick in my bottom feeding ERA ;-)
So this is my reason to go for the DID over the Oddy (iAtty 2)

Miriam with the Hat

 

[Mr.Mann]

Hey Yankee, I don't like any of my beloved extracted tobacs in any genisis. However, someday that may change.

I sometimes wonder if when people talk about tobaccos, they are appreciating the vast differences between "tobacco" juices as opposed to tobacco juices, if you catch my drift?! Extracted tobacco juices vs. tobacco flavoring (no matter how unique the mixture) is about the same as comparing fresh squeezed orange juice with Hi-C or Tang . (LOL). I am only talking about this because when I hear some say they love tobaccos in their DID, I wonder if we are talking the same tobaccos? Personally, I don't consider Boba's to necessarily be a tobacco, but I have some and use it in the DID. I am not making a judgement call on anyone's taste, just saying that the term "tobacco" is used to describe juices that have no tobacco in the juice, and other references are referring to juices that literally started out as leaves and through a long laborious process became a tobacco juice that I LOVE.

p.s. NLV Bounty Hunter is considered a "tobacco" juice? Really?!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Message for Classy: Thanks for your help yesterday! The bank covered me and replaced it. Thank you.

 

[yankeebobo]

I sometimes wonder if when people talk about tobaccos, they are appreciating the vast differences between "tobacco" juices as opposed to tobacco juices, if you catch my drift?! Extracted tobacco juices vs. tobacco flavoring (no matter how unique the mixture) is about the same as comparing fresh squeezed orange juice with Hi-C or Tang . (LOL). I am only talking about this because when I hear some say they love tobaccos in their DID, I wonder if we are talking the same tobaccos? Personally, I don't consider Boba's to necessarily be a tobacco, but I have some and use it in the DID. I am not making a judgement call on anyone's taste, just saying that the term "tobacco" is used to describe juices that have no tobacco in the juice, and other references are referring to juices that literally started out as leaves and through a long laborious process became a tobacco juice that I LOVE.

p.s. NLV Bounty Hunter is considered a "tobacco" juice? Really?!

Oh very true. In MY world, that's the closest I vape to tobacco - hence MY term for using it. Personally though, I do understand that it's not a true tobacco. And at some point, I certainly would not mind trying a true tobacco in the DID. However, I have yet to find THE tobacco that would rock in a DID. I've had a few RY4s....none of them really did it though. Granted they were in my carto days. I've heard good stuff about Casablanca and Honey Flue, but haven't ventured there. I'm a patient person to find the right tobacco, but I HATE spending $5 here, $5 there to hit $70 total and still fail to find one.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Oh very true. In MY world, that's the closest I vape to tobacco - hence MY term for using it. Personally though, I do understand that it's not a true tobacco. And at some point, I certainly would not mind trying a true tobacco in the DID. However, I have yet to find THE tobacco that would rock in a DID. I've had a few RY4s....none of them really did it though. Granted they were in my carto days. I've heard good stuff about Casablanca and Honey Flue, but haven't ventured there. I'm a patient person to find the right tobacco, but I HATE spending $5 here, $5 there to hit $70 total and still fail to find one.

I hear you on that! Sampling flavors too much can be the difference between a new DID and a bunch of unwanted liquid in plastic. I think a good way to go about it is to go with an NET with a mix of other "flavorings" (Like Organic Honey Tobacco from Vaperite) to start. Then slowly move to nothing but the extract (Like W2V's/Vapenstein's London). If you ever want to talk leaf juice (LOL) message me or Dspin, that is our underlying bond.

p.s. In a couple weeks I should be well stocked, or better stocked than currently, with a very wide variety of NETS from a range of vendors; hit me up and I will set you up with some samples. That way, you can keep your wallet/pocketbook from the juice hunters frequent monetary bouts of bulimia.

p.s.2 BWB's juices are a mystery about ingredients. Some say maybe extracts, but Don won't say. Personally, I ain't thinking so. Maybe on the RY4 and eJoker, but that is iffy and those aren't made anymore.

 

[yankeebobo]

I hear you on that! Sampling flavors too much can be the difference between a new DID and a bunch of unwanted liquid in plastic. I think a good way to go about it is to go with an NET with a mix of other "flavorings" (Like Organic Honey Tobacco from Vaperite) to start. Then slowly move to nothing but the extract (Like W2V's/Vapenstein's London). If you ever want to talk leaf juice (LOL) message me or Dspin, that is our underlying bond.

p.s. In a couple weeks I should be well stocked, or better stocked than currently, with a very wide variety of NETS from a range of vendors; hit me up and I will set you up with some samples. That way, you can keep your wallet/pocketbook from the juice hunters frequent monetary bouts of bulimia.

p.s.2 BWB's juices are a mystery about ingredients. Some say maybe extracts, but Don won't say. Personally, I ain't thinking so. Maybe on the RY4 and eJoker, but that is iffy and those aren't made anymore.

Wow. Thanks a ton. I can't tell you how much has already been spent on other juices. And still, my TRUE favorites are my wife's DIYs. Of course, some of the DIYs have been spinned off the purchases and enhance to be even better. Cut a flavor here, add some there, tune it in and VAPE!

 

[L7D4N]

Is there an idea as to when the site will accept new orders? I'd like to purchase a DID and have the available funds, but the message on the site has been there all week

 

[Atlantisboy]

I would like to order a short DID and wondered if anyone has any of the DIDs with the satin finish , I would love to see some pictures on some PVs so I know what it will look good with. Is it a satin finish like the Legacy or Provari or is it more of a brushed stainless steel?

Thank you

 

[9ball_AJ]

I would like to order a short DID and wondered if anyone has any of the DIDs with the satin finish , I would love to see some pictures on some PVs so I know what it will look good with. Is it a satin finish like the Legacy or Provari or is it more of a brushed stainless steel?

Thank you

It is more of a brushed finish. Here is a pic with a Satin P+

 

[vabeach454]

I just puchased a GP Paps and DiD off the classifieds & have not used an Atomizer yet, but have read nothing but good things. I am reading up on it before it gets here, so I can have a vapathon. LOL.