So long story short. Got the new IPV3. Before I left the sales dude told me I should get 2 new batteries for it.
Why?
I already got 4 Sony 18650s...
Why?
I already got 4 Sony 18650s...
New IPV3. Needs New Batteries??
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batteries that run in series "should" be a married pair. If you have two unmatched the batt with the higher mah ratting could possibly pull the smaller one down past lowest charge rate and ruin it. There are other reasons but a couple tips you should follow religiously are.
Use them together always.
Charge them together always.
Rotate them every cycle from one slot to the other.
You can rotate mid discharge range, so when your meter goes to half charge swap them in the sled. or rotate their position each time you charge and replace them. I swap mine at the half way point of charge, its easier than trying to remember which one was where. You could dedicate a pair or two pair for the new mod and probably not have a problem. I have done this without issue, but once I started using them that way I have never change that like running one in a mech. You cant do that.
Use them together always.
Charge them together always.
Rotate them every cycle from one slot to the other.
You can rotate mid discharge range, so when your meter goes to half charge swap them in the sled. or rotate their position each time you charge and replace them. I swap mine at the half way point of charge, its easier than trying to remember which one was where. You could dedicate a pair or two pair for the new mod and probably not have a problem. I have done this without issue, but once I started using them that way I have never change that like running one in a mech. You cant do that.
Ok so a couple more questions:
1. Could I just take 2 of my Sony batteries, charge them till there both equally full (charger caps batteries off at 4.2) and then only use them for my ipv?
2. If i did use two different batteries, will it destroy my IPV or only the batteries?
1. Could I just take 2 of my Sony batteries, charge them till there both equally full (charger caps batteries off at 4.2) and then only use them for my ipv?
2. If i did use two different batteries, will it destroy my IPV or only the batteries?
oh and just a heads up. All my batteries are exactly the green sony 18650s. I have no other types.
no clue. Haven't tried that yet. Although the guy says that charging the batteries with the cable doesn't work :/. Also said the sensor may not work. Only the IPV2 one does... No biggie. Having a button is good enough.
The best situation here is one where each battery in a pair is from the same manufacturing batch and both have the same number of charge cycles on them and have been used the same way. The best way to achieve this is to buy a pair(s) of batteries. Mark the first pair 1A and 1B, the next pair 2A and 2B. Rotate positions for 1A and 1B each time you put them in the mod.
That's the best and safest possible scenario. Can you get away with skimping on the details a bit ... yes, as long as the batteries are not too different from each other. Also, the older they get and the longer you run a set of batteries in the mod before charging them again, the more small differences are going to become bigger differences.
The worst that can happen is that the weaker battery will vent. If that happens, there will be a lot of heat in the mod and you'll have a mess of gas in there which be hard to clean up and could for all I know damage the mod.
My thought is if you're going to buy a couple/few sets of batteries for it anyway, why take chances now?
Vape safe
ok... Im pretty sure I got a pair of Sony's from the same bundle. I'll use them for now. However I did order another pair. I will use them once they come in.
No IPV3 out to date has a working touch sensor. The sensor will never be able to work in these versions. Another guy, who is an electrical engineer, has already taken his apart, inside and out and has pictures up. The touch sensor was never meant to work on the IPV3, as there are no wires or anything going to it. The spot where the touch sensor equipment needs to be, is taken up by something else.
So to answer your question. The IPV3 touch sensor is non existent.,.....at least for all of these versions.
Charging series batteries is more dangerous than discharging them. If one battery finishes charging first all the charging current will be passing through it and it will overheat and may catch fire.
That is probably why the sigelei 100 watt does not have a charge port and there is no charger with the IPV3.
I have a seigeli and only use a pair of batteries bought for it and, even if it did have a charger, would not charge batteries in it.
That is probably why the sigelei 100 watt does not have a charge port and there is no charger with the IPV3.
I have a seigeli and only use a pair of batteries bought for it and, even if it did have a charger, would not charge batteries in it.
That socks the touch sensor don't work...If they would have made the box a Lil bigger it would have had room to make it work...that's one reason I love my ipv2 so much
In my personal preference it's a safety hazard but it is a cool feature. I turned it off within 5 min of opening my ipv2. I do know some people, like yourself, like it.
Yeah I know for me I hate the damn thing. If you get juice on it it will make the mod auto fire which is no fun. Just the other day when I was at work somehow a little bit of juice or water got on the sensor while the mod was in my pocket and it auto fired in my pocket. I didn't know until my leg started getting really hot from my RDA touching my leg through my pocket. Definitely scared me because the mod was pretty warm. Definitely a huge safety hazard in that thing. I also thought I had it turned off but apparently not...I'm kinda glad that they made it not work in the iPV3.
Yeah I am involved in all those threads. I asked because I am always on the lookout for inconsistencies in the story line with P4U.
Oh okay cool. Completely understand. Besides the touch sensor and charging problem, the device is a beast. I would never charge te batteries in the ipv3 through the charger, even if it was possible. Charging batteries through series is dangerous.
NO!
You got those batteries at the same time, but you've been using them individually in mods. Meaning it's virtually GUARANTEED that one has more battery sag than another, meaning the voltage will drop faster on one than it will on the other, meaning a potential catastrophic failure!
If you're going to use a box that requires stacked batteries, make sure you're doing it safely. Use batteries that you KNOW you purchased at the same time, ideally in their original packaging from the manufacturer so you can be sure they've never been used/charged prior to your purchase.
I don't understand completely about this subject. I bought 2 brand new VTC5 about 3 months ago and used 1 in my IPV2 for about a month before I sold it. Why is it soooo dangerous for me to not use the one I have already used? I mean, I understand the concept, but why is it soooo bad? I mean, if I am not vaping at 150 watts is it really that critical to buy another battery when I have 2 brand new ones, even though 1 was used for only 1 month?
Over time, the rate of voltage drop on a battery increases. A month of continually using/recharging a cell is more than enough time to make a difference. If you're using 2 batteries that are "married" in your IPV3, it's guaranteed that those batteries are being drained simultaneously. Additionally, you should be charging them together, meaning they've had the same number of charge cycles together. As soon as you take one of these married batteries out and, say, use it in a mech mod, you've "soiled the marriage" (lol), and the batteries will no longer drain at EXACTLY the same time.
Now yes, odds are, you won't experience catastrophic failure, but mixing batteries like this certainly increases the chances. One reason stacked batteries are so looked-down-upon is because if one battery has less nominal voltage than another one, the other one MAY attempt to lend it's counterpart additional power (sort of an attempt to compensate for the lack of voltage), which you do NOT want.
I've been recommended to only use batteries for a maximum of 8 months, and my cells that have been around longer than that REALLY have some very serious battery sag (they're virtually unusable, but I keep em around for posterity's sake).
Also:
Whether you're at 10W or 150W doesn't really make a difference in this case. If you were to put a virtually dead battery alongside a freshly charged one, you'd very likely see catastrophic failure regardless of the wattage setting.
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I understand, thanks. I guess the thing that sucks is I put both my VTC5, used and unused, batteries in my drawer waiting on the IPV3. I can't tell which one is which....So basically, if I use this method of batteries in the IPV3, I need to buy 2 more VTC5 batteries when I just bought 2....I look at it as a waste of money, but it is also safer to do so.
Why would they make the IPV3 in series if it is so look down upon? Prob, the same reason they messed up the touch sensor, battery charging, and warranty.
Man I was really really excited about the IPV3, because my IPV2 performed awesome and I never had a problem with it. I really want the IPV3, because I know it will perform well, its just built so much like crap....but can performance outweigh the build quality? IDK, my IPV3 is on the truck for delivery today..... I might just use this until the Cloupor T8 comes out and wait a month or two so people can test it out. Another reason why to never order the first batch, but this fellow right here is just too impatient.
Battery life. You wouldn't be able to fire 90W for very long on 1x 18650.
Dunno what you're talking about, for a China-made device, build quality on the IPV3 is astonishing.
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