New Kid is frustrated with vaping

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Momma said there'd be days like this....

 

[new kid]

I just checked out those tanks this morning. Pricey. I typically have 6-8 tanks going with different e-liquids, the wife just as many. We don't do the "all day vape" thing. The prices are cost prohibitive.

I use a Penelope (rebuildable atomizer) on a Ego Twist (1000mah version) for now until my GGTS arrives. You can't go wrong with a Penelope or Odysseus but the only problem is getting a hold of one since they are quite rare. Once you get one, they will give you a constant and quality vape, and no leaks 99% of the time, even if you hold it upside down or on its side. I haven't gotten any juice into my mouth with these things either. Absolute perfection in my opinion but then again, you have to anticipate some room for error.

Some of the things a Penelope/Odysseus offers,

- Almost impossible to leak
- Liquid control. Starting to feel some dry hits coming? Just twist the liquid control to allow more juice flow and you're good to go.
- Air flow control (with GGTS)
- No flooding (at least for me). The only time you might get some flooding is if you screw the top cap on really fast. So just screw it on slowly and you'll never get any flooding.
- Overall great flavor and throat hit (this one can vary depending on how well you make your coil-wick setup.)

The only thing that is a downer for me is that you can't see how much liquid is left in the tank but that is easy to remedy. You can either open the top cap to see if there is any juice left, or you can buy the clear tank made by a third party.

 

[new kid]

I just don't have the luck with it. When dripping, I vape till I get a dry hit, then put in 2 or 3 drops - flooded.

you need to learn "how much" juice the atty needs and you wont flood it. wen you get a new atomizer prime it first by dripping 5 drops in and let it soak for 30 seconds - 1 minute. then vape... next vape sesh drip another 2-3 drops. also, i strongly recommend checking out Ikenvape.com. the 901 1.8ohm atomizer is one of the best attys ive ever owned. you will need a 510-901 adapter to use on the provari. there regular 510 attys are phenomenal as well.

just be patient and figure out how everything works at its optimum performance. do research online, and "know" your gear. after that its honestly just a breeze. i drip exclusively on IKV 901s and hh357s. (avidvaper) on a provari, and a kicked telescope, also a twist occasionaly. i always have boge 3.0ohm cartomizers as well. never had a "bad" cartomizer either, never popped an atty. and i vape pretty hard, mainly mrsTs and rawr. i honestly rarely even use dripshields because if you dont over drip, and give the atty the amount of juice its suppose to get, then you will NOT get leaks. and you will be vaping blissfully daily, with no problem. if i can do it, then anyone can. i guess you could be corny and say "practice makes perfect"

 

[new kid]

This does, however, come with a price. You will have to gut it out and go through some trial and error to create the best vape for your needs/style.

This does sound exactly where I am at! Trial and error - a proven approach

 

[new kid]

It may sound that way but it's not the case. I was extremely happy with the the cartomizer tanks until I ran into my first bad Boge. I don't see buying anymore PV's in the future, the ProVari (which was a gift) works great and I have backups. My problem is with the delivery devices. My point is I am trying to find something that I can live with - that works. I'm not looking for something perfect, I'm a realist.

I have tried 5 different delivery systems in 3 months, that is not very many in my opinion when trying to find something that works. I have eliminated many options just through EFC.


I don't have one that I can live with. I did before the bad Boges hit. But constant leaks, getting juice in my mouth several times a day, muted flavors, cartridges that have bad flavors -- those just don't work for me.

It would be easier to go back to cigarettes, they do work with no fiddling and, given the trend, a heck of a lot cheaper. That is not something I will do.

I've said it before and I'm saying it again...

...the primary cause of vaper dissatisfaction is due to TOO MANY CHOICES.

YOU, my friend, sound like someone that spends too much time on ECF. You're like a car owner that purchases a new car every few week because he's heard about something "better". When did you ever set the voltage on a cigarette? Never. You stuck the darn thing in your mouth, lit a match to it and went about your business. We...notice i said "we" because I'm guilty as well... WE discover electronic cigarettes and lose our minds.

The TRUTH of the matter is
There
Is
No
Perfect
E-cig.

It doesn't exist.

My advice to you would be to decide which ONE of your many devices you can LIVE with and USE it.

Then give yourself an extended ECF vacation.

You'll be a much happier vaper.

4 Stages of Vaping - YouTube

 

[Nurzrachit]

Sounds like you need a VV Bottom feeder with an HH357 in my opinion. You can get a few tanks for swap out, and blow out your atomizer between flavors. Low maintenance, good size, great flavor. I am the opposite of what you described, I have been vaping a little over 1 1/2 years and it continues to get better for me. I'm more of a glass is half full person too, maybe you should focus on the good things, and quit trying to get to vaping Nirvana this week. There are special moments along the way to go "eureka!", but most of the time it is an excellent nicotine daily delivery system, even if you have to do some tinkering. Good luck.

 

[spraintz]

I started out with this:

Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer - Clone

Dude, $9.....I mean c'mon, it just doesn't get any cheaper than that to get started in the rebuilding scene.

This atomizer is great for learning coils on. It is a dripping type rebuildable but the "juice well" holds like 10+ drops to you would be dripping way less and it's great for switching flavors. The air hole on this style is on the side of the housing instead of in the threaded connector so the base and threads are 100% sealed. This also makes this thing quiet......I mean really quiet. There is no hissing, gurgling or popping sounds. It is also really hard to flood it out. and while not 100% leak proof it is waaaaay easier to manage......keep the air hole facing up and you won't leak from it.

If you can work on watch movements and can handle a set of tweezers then this atomizer will be a breeze. I did a coil change yesterday and it took right around a minute or so to do it.......good-to-go

Oh yeah, did I mention it, the resistance wire for making coils is around $9 for 100ft of wire? That's like 400 coils for $9!!!!

Idividual results may vary but my woman and I each get around 3 weeks or more on a coil

 

[Bronze]

Dude, you put up a brick wall with everything. Go back to smoking cigarettes. Make a will first, though.

 

[rosesense]

Some of the lavatube clones/types need extenders to work with certain tanks or clearomizers. They are cheap and you might try that on yours if your wife's setup is working well. I got my extenders from GoodProphets but I am sure other places have them.

 

[new kid]

This is definetly something I will try. I had not seen them this reasonable before. I didn't want to try my hand at a rebuildable with a penelope at $125.

Thanks. Probably order one this weekend.

I started out with this:

Phoenix Rebuildable Atomizer - Clone

Dude, $9.....I mean c'mon, it just doesn't get any cheaper than that to get started in the rebuilding scene.

This atomizer is great for learning coils on. It is a dripping type rebuildable but the "juice well" holds like 10+ drops to you would be dripping way less and it's great for switching flavors. The air hole on this style is on the side of the housing instead of in the threaded connector so the base and threads are 100% sealed. This also makes this thing quiet......I mean really quiet. There is no hissing, gurgling or popping sounds. It is also really hard to flood it out. and while not 100% leak proof it is waaaaay easier to manage......keep the air hole facing up and you won't leak from it.

If you can work on watch movements and can handle a set of tweezers then this atomizer will be a breeze. I did a coil change yesterday and it took right around a minute or so to do it.......good-to-go

Oh yeah, did I mention it, the resistance wire for making coils is around $9 for 100ft of wire? That's like 400 coils for $9!!!!

Idividual results may vary but my woman and I each get around 3 weeks or more on a coil

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[new kid]

I should have my Vivi Nova Mini's in a day or two. I'm hoping that the smaller size and slim tank may help a lot. This should help with the wicking and reduce dry hits. It may very well help with the leaking I have been experiencing as well. If I could just get the leaking at the top manageable, this would be a big winner for me. I would not have a problem cleaning the top once or twice a day. Overall, I really like the Vivi. It is the least problematic of what I have tried.

I moved on to the Vivi Nova minis recently...and I did not have high hopes, but honestly I have been beyond pleasantly surprised. Even after cleaning some of the heads, they work like new when I put them back on. I've found the best vape for me to be with the 2.4ohm heads on my Twist at around 4.4v. I haven't tried the full size Vivi Nova V 2.5 yet...I personally like the size of the mini and don't feel like I need to go much bigger. Hopefully when you get those you don't have any issues. I finally feel like I can put aside all of my other gadgets, and am completely satisfied with my Twist and vivi nova minis. When my Twist is charging, I just use them on my regular eGo. I plan to get a second Twist so I always have one charged and ready to go.

My second favorite right now is my eGo mini battery with the smoketech 22mm shorty cartos. (the clear ones tinted with

 

[Absintheur]

Drip at home, when out and about use a good tank with Ikenvape gold or platinum single coil cartos, I prefer double punched.

 

[new kid]

I just got some Ikenvapes in and will be trying them in the next few days.

Drip at home, when out and about use a good tank with Ikenvape gold or platinum single coil cartos, I prefer double punched.

 

[new kid]

Humm, I have been doing this with the Ce3's, however based on your description maybe I'm not diligent enough. Your two needle approach would work better than what I was doing. I really would like these babies to work, the vapor and flavor on them is better than anything else I have tried.

I seam to remember Pbusardo was geeting 25ish ml out of cartridge when he was was doing some of his bogegate videos. Maybe I am expecting too much, 15ml may just be more typical.

Sorry for your frustrations.

When you fill the ce3s are you making sure that it's totally upside down, and that you pull the needle straight out while it's upside down? Also.....make sure you're getting all the air out of the needle before you fill it. I know that may sound like a duhhh thing.... but you'd be amazed how many don't think of this. I use a longer, larger bore needle to draw the juice into the syringe. Then I take the needle off, hold it plunger end down......flick it several times.... then depress the plunger til the juice is at the very tip of the syringe. Put the tiny needle that comes with it onto the syringe, then slightly depress the plunger til the juice comes out of that needle. Sounds like a lot, but it's quick. This gets as much air as possible out of the juice/syringe. Insert needle into the fill hole, turn upside down, fill slowly, pull the needle straight down and out (don't do it at an angle. Maybe I'm just lucky.....but I've never had one leak on me.

I haven't used cartos/tanks so maybe someone can chime in here, but I would think 15 mls through one carto would be pretty good. Or maybe I'm just way underestimating them.

With the vivi (which I love) you don't really have to wash out the cap......just pull the drip tip off and put a tissue in there to mop up the condensation/juice. You'll have this with most things from time to time, it's just the nature of the beast. I do this a few times a day whenever the flavor/th seems to be getting weak, or if I get any gurgling. Mostly it's condensation, but sometimes it will have some juice in it.

Dunno why tanks will fire on your wife's vtube but not yours if they're the same.

 

[new kid]

I may just take you up on that. If I can get some success with the Pheonix I may just try one of these.

If you ever do get one, used or new, just message me and I'll help you as best as I can from point A to point B. If you can fix watches, using a Penelope or Odysseus will be a cake walk for you.

 

[Berylanna]

Before I tried the mini-Nova I had leaking issues with everything except carto tanks (3ml Triple V Polypro Tank.) I find tanks too much trouble (though these ones with the side screw are a lot less trouble).

I do NOT have good luck with ANY clearos except the mini-ViVi Nova, no matter what kind, they seem to change a lot with every weather change, maybe they are too dependent on barometric pressure to prevent leaking. I tried the full-sized ViVi Nova 2.5 and had leaking issues.

Then I tried the Mini-ViVi Nova (you can still change heads) and those almost never ever leak, there is something different about the way the top fits on. Also, I can lay them down for a few minutes (though not overnight) without getting a lot of juice in the top. Yes, I still see some juice around the outside of the cap when I take it off to refill but it doesn't get into anyplace it can leak from.

BUT...you still have to train yourself to pull MUCH softer on clearos than cartos, I got more leaking when I was switching back-and-forth between the two because my "mouth habits" got confused. Also first "gurgle" means wipe out the top (I only have to take out the drip tip.)

So now my polypro carto tank is only for juices that might damage polycarbonate, otherwise I'm switching to the mini-ViVi-Nova exclusively. Look for unopened clearos and CE3's on the Classifieds once I come back from vacation! (Please PLEASE make the mini-Nova in Pyrex!!!!!)

 

[SpicyMcHaggis]

The mini-nova doth rocketh!

 

[Salt&PePPer]

I bought five Kanger T2s in a pack with short wicks. Four of the Heads are still working good, and two tubes are left working well with no issues or leaking. I do have the two other tubes set up for Dripping which you can do with these heads if you remove a few bits. But I've had them for five weeks now and my heads are still going good. Even the one that is out of conditions just takes about three times longer to heat up so it is essentially 'TIRED'! But it ain't been blown.

I knew go more than one tank with a mild top off before I clean the heads. First I dip them in Isopropyl Alcohol where I keep them for at least 45 minutes. It does a better job than water when it comes to cleaning out the eJuice and loosening up the burnt up bits on top of the coil and such. I've been doing well with four total clearos lately and in just a two day span I lost full capability to use them as clearomizers because two of them started to leak. I've been looking around all over the Internet for the Five Pack of T2s and no one has them at all. But I have a good friend from here sending me some T2s for free since I cannot stop blabbering about them. They are all I literally have besides some old and warn-out Cartomizers.

 

[jamm3r]

hey I feel you on the Vivi Nova. I also noticed that if you shake it upside down, it squirts out liquid . Not a big fan of that. But hey, here is one tip that saved me some gurgling. When you're screwing the top cap on, remove the drip tip, and with a pen, pin, or a paperclip, make sure you align the metal piece to the center as you gradually tighten it. I usually give it two turns, move the center back into place, then two more rotations, repeat process until its on tight, and the (run on sentence) center is in the center

Pls don't comment on my english.

 

[Cookster]

While you're at Discount Vapers checking out the Phoenix clone, take a look at the Kanger T2's and the E1-V's under the clearomizers section. I find them very user friendly and fiddle-free.