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Rise

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It's not a stupid question. Yes, Johnson Creek is fine. You will need something to put the juice in, such as a Vivi Nova, or a Splitfire.

Appreciate that. I tried googling for those but I can't find them. Which is easier to use with my desired juice? I just want easy and the same hit each time, cost does not matter.
 

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i have read all the recommendations on this post.i just quitted smoking 2 wks ago,timing is tough with the hurricane Sandy happening at same time!so lots of places were closed in the city so i have been buying what i could find in delis & drugstores.
they don't last long.I had bought the V4l kit in 2009 i still had some left and it worked a bit still i am using the one that use the usb wire it is the strongest but at work i don't always have access to a pc so i am looking for something new and super strong.i also had a kit of smoking everywhere.both of these system still work but not great.i am now out of the cartridge so i need to either order some i think the top mg was 2.4mg smokes taste.
should i just forget these two,not order refills and juste go and buy the provari? money is not a problems for myself either i just want something that works! the disposable and the few kits i found in my area are pretty useless after a day.i cannot continue like this.i would prefer something easy,not bother with liquid,i smoked marlboro light for 40 yrs .i want something that will be close in taste,
thanks for any help.
PS i want something i can order and ger asap or a location in Manhattan where i can go and buy in person
 

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I find the Vivi easier to rebuild, but the Splitfire to give a little more vapor and more consistent. You can get both from Got Vapes. Maybe get one of each, if money is not a problem. I use my Vivi for tobacco flavored juice, and my Splitfire for citrus juices.

Appreciate that. I tried googling for those but I can't find them. Which is easier to use with my desired juice? I just want easy and the same hit each time, cost does not matter.
 
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Buy an E-Go Twist. You don't need a Provari BUT they are good.

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I have been using an ego twist for a while. recently got a couple of vision spinners. They are basically the same thing, but the controls on the spinners are easier to see than the twist. They seem to be a little cheaper (less expensive) too. I've been vaping for two years, and this will do the job. They are easier to carry in a pocket too. The prover IS top of the line. I may end getting one, but trying to carry it in your pocket may bring on the "happy to see me" jokes. I like rebuildable atomizers lately, but for new comers I would suggest the vivi mini nova tanks. For $10 dollars its a great product. The mini looks good on the twist/spinner, and again easy to carry. They could last you all day too
 

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I find the Vivi easier to rebuild, but the Splitfire to give a little more vapor and more consistent. You can get both from Got Vapes. Maybe get one of each, if money is not a problem. I use my Vivi for tobacco flavored juice, and my Splitfire for citrus juices.

The splitfire works good with your citrus juices?? Is it a different kind of tank? whats the difference between the two.
 

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Okay just so I got this down.

1. An Ego Twist essentially does what a Provari does it is just not as durable, maybe not as many settings but works good for most. The difference in cost here is pretty significant, other than durability anything else that makes it worth it?

2. If I get a Provari starter kit all I need is a tank and juice. Why does the site ask me to buy an atomizer? Any links to where I can watch somebody put it all together with the ideal recommended setup? I am totally confused by what is needed.

3. The Darwin is never mentioned and impossible to find for sale but this seems to have a much more appealing setup as once you set it you can basically forget it. Mind you I would never take either of these in public, they would stay in my house and I'll use my walgreens kit for when I am out and about. (I work from home so I don't leave much). Where is this for sale?
 

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If I might just add; If you work, and I mean WORK then some of the devices mentioned might not be good for you. I am NOT trying to offend, just relating my experience here. I'm a Trucker, pull Flat-Beds. Always climbing, strapping and tarping, sometimes chaining, and anything in a big truck takes a beating ! Early on I asked on this site for 'rough-service cartos', and instead was directed by a Forum Moderator (Classwife) to REOSmods. The REO mini is practically indestructable. I've really put mine through the grind these last four months and I love it ! The enclosed 3mil bottle and 14500 battery last all day, and by using different resistance attys I can somewhat tune the flavor of my vape (although dry firing a 1.5 LR atty on a mini is NOT recommended). When relaxing at home I use an eGo Twist/ Kanger T3 to unwind, but only my mini goes to work with me. The REOS mini, when in stock, is about $140. The Twist/T3 together are about $35. Point is- Lotsa choices, do a little research and don't be afraid to ask the good people here at ECF. Good Luck !
 

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I have used both Highbrow Orange de Sangre and ECBlend Orange, and Crazy Citrus Cooler, and it hasn't cracked or hurt the Splitfire tank. The Splitfire has two chambers, one where the juice goes, and the other where the coil resides. I use two completely different style tanks so I don't forget which one I put the Highbrow Tabac de Perique in.

The splitfire works good with your citrus juices?? Is it a different kind of tank? whats the difference between the two.
 

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1 ego twist is a simpler easier to use variable voltage devise (battery)

2 an atomizer is what the mini nova tank is, as well as cartomizers, tanks, rebuildables, etc. you can search youtube for videos on the provari

3 I don't have experience with the darwin although they do interest me
 

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I have used both Highbrow Orange de Sangre and ECBlend Orange, and Crazy Citrus Cooler, and it hasn't cracked or hurt the Splitfire tank. The Splitfire has two chambers, one where the juice goes, and the other where the coil resides. I use two completely different style tanks so I don't forget which one I put the Highbrow Tabac de Perique in.

Thanks for the reply.I just bought a Kir Fanis Prive tank and my Craveloupe cracked the pmma in less than 5 minutes. Just ordered replacments from Greece and will likely sell or trade it for a pyrex tank when they get here.
 

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I don't know how your juice will react. All I know is the one's I tried are OK.

Thanks for the reply.I just bought a Kir Fanis Prive tank and my Craveloupe cracked the pmma in less than 5 minutes. Just ordered replacments from Greece and will likely sell or trade it for a pyrex tank when they get here.
 

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m6000w and Rise ,

IMO ,this thread seems to have veered a bit away from helping you get the equipment you seek . If money isn't an issue for either of you, ProVari V2 is a top notch vaporizer that will perform the same from the beginning of battery insertion until the battery is discharged.

The pv, be it ego twist, ProVari V2, kgo,go go etc . supplies the power to the liquid delivery system.
I would suggest you both go to you tube. In the search box type in "pbusardo provari". Watch video.
Then type in "pbusardo ego twist" . Watch video.
pbusardo is a highly thought of ,if not the most highly respected reviewer in the vaping community.
After watching his reviews,you will understand the pros and cons of each device.

Liquid delivery is a whole other factor in the vaping equation. There are atomizers,cartomizers,tanks etc ad nauseum .
I like the Vivi Nova. Easy to fill. Easy to maintain. The atomized heads are easily replaceable and also rebuildable should you be so inclined.
pbusardo has reviews on the Vivi Nova also.

There are so many vapers with different preferences that it is going to be hard to pin down exactly what is right for you.

It isn't often Provari's are recommended to beginners but there is nothing hard about them . They are expensive ,durable functional and maintain their value . Should you decide to sell , expect to lose no more than 10% of its cost,if that.

Atomizers are a good thing to have on hand to taste test liquids before filling a tank and finding you do not care for the taste.Every vaper should have at least one.

IME, most spend a lot of cash finding liquids they really like. Don't buy large quantities of any one flavor to begin with unless you already know you like it. Try smaller bottles in "sample packs" from many vendors .

Thats all for now. Any more questions ,feel free to ask.
 

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Awesome I formation from everyone thank you so much. Gimmeshelter I will check out those YouTube videos and thank you for the explanation. I must say I am shocked at how supportive the "new guy" forum is. Hopefully one day I can return the favor or pay it forward as they say.

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You guys really could not have been more helpful. Thanks a lot, I'll be back with any further questions. Again, really appreciated.
 

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm back. I checked out pbusardo's reviews and the websites for both ego and provape. I don't think there's any question that the choice is down to either of these. Pbusardo brought up one really, really good point that I think gives the Ego-C the edge. Personally I don't care what the thing looks like. But if i go into public with something that looks like the Provari, people are going to be constantly asking me what it is, and that would get old fast. Now the Ego-C (I don't see any "Twist" on the website, not sure what that's about) do come in starter packs, but they don't include atomizers. (Just so I'm clear; the atomizer is the piece that holds the liquid? And they need to be replaced regularly? And what the heck is a cartomizer?) Then I figure well okay, I'll just add on a package of atomizers then. Then I see this:

You may also choose between Type A or Type B atomizers and cones as well as Standard atomizers or the Low Resistance atomizers

What is the difference between the Type A and Type B? The main difference is in the size of the Tank and cone. The B has a larger 2ml tank. The Standard atomizer has also been redesigned to account for the greater volume and weight of liquid pressing down upon it but this does not effect the LR's.

Type A Standard atomizers are only compatible with Type A cones. Type B Standard atomizers only with Type B cones. Due to the difference in atomizers if one uses a Type B standard atomizer with a Type A cone then the result would most likely be a dry atomizer and a very unpleasant burnt taste. If one was to use the Type A standard atomizer in the Type B cone then one may experience excessive leakage.

eGo-C LR atomizers are compatible with both Type A and Type B Cones.



And I don't understand any of that. Cones, now? Come on. This is information overload. I think I just need someone to explain this to me as if I were a five-year old.
 

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Lol disregard the info about the cones.If youre choosing to with an ego twist then buy kit from here Joye eGo-C Twist Variable Voltage 650mAh Battery then get a vivi nova from here Vision Vivi Nova 3.5ml Tank Clearomizer V3 - 510/eGo Compatible, Replaceable/Rebuildable Coils...you wont have to worry about cone a fitting into cone b and blah blah blah......Id recommend 2 twist batteries, an ego charger, the vivi nova, a box of replacement heads and some juice which can all be picked up from that site....hope that heps
 

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Ego T and Ego C are complete systems with battery and atomizer units (c=changeable) and small tank/mouthpiece unit.
The difference between A and B is the size of the tank/mouthpiece. These require different sized cones to fit in. The atomizer is in the cone.

The people here are suggesting you take the battery of an ego system (the twist batteries are realtively new, and are mostly not included in these ego pv kits) and fit a tank/atomizer combnation on it like the vivnova or the splitfires.

I agree that this is the best advice you can give to a starter.

I personally started with ego T and C and was soon fed up with constant leaking, as the ego attys appearently require a special drawing technique (smooth and constant) which is hard to maintain if you are for example vaping while you walk.

So for starters go for that vivinova tank/atomizer (or similar and 2 ego twist batteries (you need a replacement while it's charging), don't forget that ego battery charger.

If you like that setup, you can still imporve later to a provari and rebuildable tank/atty or give a bottom feeder system like the reos a try, if you don't care about the money.
 
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