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So, I have been getting advice from another forum but would simply like to broaden the feedback/suggestions a bit. So far they have been very helpful and are all great peeps.
Below is what I posted over there as my initial post but since that time, I think I have narrowed things down a bit but now I find out the battery I am interested could be problematic thread wise.
So before you read the intro below, here is what I am thinking for the group based on size, budget and where we stand in our vape journey.
By the way, the V2 EX starter kits are a major ripoff now that I understand more what is out there and what the possibilities are, ugh.
#1 Innokin Endura T22 - Read lots of good reviews, I just don't know if I can get coils locally, not a deal breaker but a pain in the .... Seems to be a good simple entry level device to get us started. Price is darn good for what is it.
#2 Aspire nautilus mini OR Aspire triton mini mated to an eleaf istick 20w mini - tanks I think the two options are just fine, battery is still an issue as I have been advised the istick batteries can have thread issue, etc. If we are going to be basic to start off, what other batteries would suffice that are similar in size and style, etc etc.
# Possible suggestions I have not considered yet that you might recommend.
Hi All,
So quick back story before the questions. Myself and buddies (3 total) at work all decided to stop smoking at the same time as a good way for us all not to be tempted to start smoking again.
We started doing some basic research and jumped the gun (probably a newbie mistake) and decided to all order 3 starter kits of the V2 EX.
Within the first week of using them we are all ready to go to a more user friendly and universal option. So at that point I really dug into the research and learned so much more than the original research.
Today I stopped by 3 vape shops which really took my understanding to a new level, at least for a newb.
So with all that being said, all 3 of us are MTL and want to go to the next level but not go crazy.
Based on the research and shop visits here is what I came up with for all 3 of us.
Aspire nautilus mini tank mated to an mini istick 10W variable battery. I think they make a 20W but not sure if that would benefit us in anyway. Also, I have been reading about top fill tanks and wonder if that is really something that we should consider at this early stage. If so, anything similar to the nautilus mini that would suffice that is similar in overall size and performance?
What's your thoughts? Do you have any questions I can answer that can help give any further guidance. We want to keep costs reasonable of course.
Below is what I posted over there as my initial post but since that time, I think I have narrowed things down a bit but now I find out the battery I am interested could be problematic thread wise.
So before you read the intro below, here is what I am thinking for the group based on size, budget and where we stand in our vape journey.
By the way, the V2 EX starter kits are a major ripoff now that I understand more what is out there and what the possibilities are, ugh.
#1 Innokin Endura T22 - Read lots of good reviews, I just don't know if I can get coils locally, not a deal breaker but a pain in the .... Seems to be a good simple entry level device to get us started. Price is darn good for what is it.
#2 Aspire nautilus mini OR Aspire triton mini mated to an eleaf istick 20w mini - tanks I think the two options are just fine, battery is still an issue as I have been advised the istick batteries can have thread issue, etc. If we are going to be basic to start off, what other batteries would suffice that are similar in size and style, etc etc.
# Possible suggestions I have not considered yet that you might recommend.
Hi All,
So quick back story before the questions. Myself and buddies (3 total) at work all decided to stop smoking at the same time as a good way for us all not to be tempted to start smoking again.
We started doing some basic research and jumped the gun (probably a newbie mistake) and decided to all order 3 starter kits of the V2 EX.
Within the first week of using them we are all ready to go to a more user friendly and universal option. So at that point I really dug into the research and learned so much more than the original research.
Today I stopped by 3 vape shops which really took my understanding to a new level, at least for a newb.
So with all that being said, all 3 of us are MTL and want to go to the next level but not go crazy.
Based on the research and shop visits here is what I came up with for all 3 of us.
Aspire nautilus mini tank mated to an mini istick 10W variable battery. I think they make a 20W but not sure if that would benefit us in anyway. Also, I have been reading about top fill tanks and wonder if that is really something that we should consider at this early stage. If so, anything similar to the nautilus mini that would suffice that is similar in overall size and performance?
What's your thoughts? Do you have any questions I can answer that can help give any further guidance. We want to keep costs reasonable of course.
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The 20w will give you more future options as well as a bigger battery, longer runtime! Factor in how long you need it to last then a decent rule of thumb, for MTL vaping, is 100mah per hour. So a 500mah battery will run five hours or less!
The 10w has a 1050mah battery, less than 10hrs, the 20 has a 2200mah battery, so it should get you through a day and isn't much bigger?
I just hate to see you get something you have to charge when you really need it!
The 10w has a 1050mah battery, less than 10hrs, the 20 has a 2200mah battery, so it should get you through a day and isn't much bigger?
I just hate to see you get something you have to charge when you really need it!
first off, I wouldn't suggest anything lower than a 50 to 75 watt. 10 watts is really not useful( a lot vape between 12-30 wats) and if you get a min of 50 watt you can upgrade tanks easier without having to buy another mod. really I would go with a common 75w, unless you get into a lot more serious vaping, this will have all your bases covered for a long time. I would also consider one that has an interchangeable battery. this way you can get a spare battery and charge it while you use the main one. make sure you learn battery safety, but an LGh2 20amp3000 MaH will cover a lot of the starters that take external batteries.
I'm not going to suggest a tank, since I prefer DtL.
I'm not going to suggest a tank, since I prefer DtL.
Sawlight: agree on the 20w but I am worried a little about that issue with the threads coming out of the unit itself.
That is why I would like some suggestions on other possible options for the battery portion.
Any thoughts on the T22 or just stick with creating our own device, which I read is always better to do.
Cheallaigh: I think that might be overkill for us, plus we want to keep costs down and size of the unit in total down a bit. I do see alot of new mini products on the market but there are so many ugh.
I was thinking maybe 40w max at this time. I don't think TC is necessary at this time, if that helps with suggestions.
We want to take reasonable steps as of right now since we are so new to vaping.
Also, I didn't mention this and you guys probably hear this all the time but I don't think we want to go to DTL anytime soon.
That is why I would like some suggestions on other possible options for the battery portion.
Any thoughts on the T22 or just stick with creating our own device, which I read is always better to do.
Cheallaigh: I think that might be overkill for us, plus we want to keep costs down and size of the unit in total down a bit. I do see alot of new mini products on the market but there are so many ugh.
I was thinking maybe 40w max at this time. I don't think TC is necessary at this time, if that helps with suggestions.
We want to take reasonable steps as of right now since we are so new to vaping.
Also, I didn't mention this and you guys probably hear this all the time but I don't think we want to go to DTL anytime soon.
examples are
kbox mini 75w(I have 3 of these myself)
eleaf pico 75w
Sigelei 75W
a search for "external battery 75 wat mods" will bring up a list, you can put in different wattages.
I do not recommend you building your own at this point...
kbox mini 75w(I have 3 of these myself)
eleaf pico 75w
Sigelei 75W
a search for "external battery 75 wat mods" will bring up a list, you can put in different wattages.
I do not recommend you building your own at this point...
Hmmm, I thought building our basic unit would be the better option. I just thought the T22 for the price was a decent device that was simple to use without all the bells and whistles.
In addition, I was so hooked up the nautilus mini or mini triton tanks, thus needing a separate battery.
Just remember what we are coming from which is really a total waste of money other than us not smoking anymore
So that first purchase took some funds otherwise could have been used elsewhere.
I think we would like to stay with internal batteries for the time being.
In addition, I was so hooked up the nautilus mini or mini triton tanks, thus needing a separate battery.
Just remember what we are coming from which is really a total waste of money other than us not smoking anymore
So that first purchase took some funds otherwise could have been used elsewhere.I think we would like to stay with internal batteries for the time being.
^^ Thanks and true. We want to take it one step at a time and I am sure at one point we will move to a more complex type device that allows for more future growth. Right now, we don't know where it will take us all other than one most important factor, NOT GOING BACK to analogs.
Honestly, I'll second the Pico, I have one myself, not much more than what you are looking at, small, more power and features than you'll probably ever need, replaceable battery so you don't have to throw the whole mod away and you can easily swap batteries if needed during the day. I use Sony VCT5's and get a day and half 20-30 watts and the charging circuit is good enough to use and trust until you get a better charger.
iStick Pico Kit by Eleaf $26.99 - Eleaf - By Brand
The only limiting factor is you can only use 23mm atomizers on them, not a huge deal, just be aware of it.
I personally don't like mods with built in batteries, I hate throwing a perfectly good mod away because the battery crapped out! But I am eyeing some of these new micro mods, something to throw in a pocket at the movies or bar, but it will never replace a full mod for me!
I know it's not really what you want to hear, but I think it's money better spent than having a dead battery halfway through a work day and having to charge it!
iStick Pico Kit by Eleaf $26.99 - Eleaf - By Brand
The only limiting factor is you can only use 23mm atomizers on them, not a huge deal, just be aware of it.
I personally don't like mods with built in batteries, I hate throwing a perfectly good mod away because the battery crapped out! But I am eyeing some of these new micro mods, something to throw in a pocket at the movies or bar, but it will never replace a full mod for me!
I know it's not really what you want to hear, but I think it's money better spent than having a dead battery halfway through a work day and having to charge it!
I looked at the pico and the size is good and seems like a nice unit, biggest question is, how is it for MTL people. I researched to death the nautilus mini and thought for MTL, it was the go to tank.
How are the tanks on the pico? Anything to be concerned about? I think we could deal with the battery and just charge it in the units instead of a separate charger.
A big thing for us to consider is the coils and finding them locally. No problem finding coils locally for the nautilus mini or mini triton.
I read that kanger has QC issues on alot of their devices, not sure how true that is.
How are the tanks on the pico? Anything to be concerned about? I think we could deal with the battery and just charge it in the units instead of a separate charger.
A big thing for us to consider is the coils and finding them locally. No problem finding coils locally for the nautilus mini or mini triton.
I read that kanger has QC issues on alot of their devices, not sure how true that is.
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Look at the price for the build your own kits, then figure you can't source the parts for that price! A DNA75 kit will start around $60, then you still need batteries! I caught a sale at Vapenw, I got an Istick 200w and three LG HE2's shipped to my door for $50.Hmmm, I thought building our basic unit would be the better option. I just thought the T22 for the price was a decent device that was simple to use without all the bells and whistles.
In addition, I was so hooked up the nautilus mini or mini triton tanks, thus needing a separate battery.
Just remember what we are coming from which is really a total waste of money other than us not smoking anymore
I think we would like to stay with internal batteries for the time being.
Just saying.
the mod just supplies the power... MtL and DtL only come into question when it comes to the tanks... are you sure you want to build your own? I cannot verify, since I am DtL, but a lot rave about the naut mini for MtL.
yeah you don't want to do that... one unless it has pass through, you cannot use it while it's charging, two it becomes a paperweight if anything messes up the battery or the connection to it. for the first 2 months I didn't have a spare battery or a charger, I seriously regretted it.
yeah you don't want to do that... one unless it has pass through, you cannot use it while it's charging, two it becomes a paperweight if anything messes up the battery or the connection to it. for the first 2 months I didn't have a spare battery or a charger, I seriously regretted it.
I'd stick with the Nautulis tanks, the Melo tanks are hit and miss, some work great, some leak badly!
The Nautulis is a very good tank for MTL vaping.
Cheallaigh: don't get me wrong, I just analyze things greatly, I always appreciate help
Sawlight: So if we stick with the nautilus mini tanks, does that not bring us back to mod option again.
You guys might think I'm crazy but based on all the options out there, I can't be the only one who is not sure what direction to take and also take it correctly. I agree that piece together our own could cost more but then the question becomes what to get as an all in one kit that has a good tank and battery that will suffice for MTL people.
Can that pico mod be purchased without the tank?
Sawlight: So if we stick with the nautilus mini tanks, does that not bring us back to mod option again.
You guys might think I'm crazy but based on all the options out there, I can't be the only one who is not sure what direction to take and also take it correctly. I agree that piece together our own could cost more but then the question becomes what to get as an all in one kit that has a good tank and battery that will suffice for MTL people.
Can that pico mod be purchased without the tank?
Yes, piecing is what I'm suggesting to get what you want. $26.99 is just for the Pico mod, the battery pack if you will. I don't think you'll like the Melo atomizer that comes in the kit. So start here, pick a color and not the full kit,
iStick Pico Kit by Eleaf $26.99 - Eleaf - By Brand
Then the Nautulis mini tank, of course it's out of stock!
Aspire Mini Nautilus Kit $19.99
Then a battery or two,
LG HG2 18650 3000mAh 20A - 35 Amp Peak $7.99 - Batteries - Accessories
Done!
iStick Pico Kit by Eleaf $26.99 - Eleaf - By Brand
Then the Nautulis mini tank, of course it's out of stock!
Aspire Mini Nautilus Kit $19.99
Then a battery or two,
LG HG2 18650 3000mAh 20A - 35 Amp Peak $7.99 - Batteries - Accessories
Done!
okay let's clear a few things up
mods: are they device that supplies the power, the safety controls and a few other extras you aren't interested in at this point. they dictate the limits of the tanks and coils you can use by limiting the wattage available.
a mod can have an external or internal battery. external battery is a battery that can be removed to be charged, internal batteries means they are not removable and when they fail the mod needs to be replaced. pass through means whether or not you can use it while it's charging, not all mods are capable of this. not all batteries work with every device, some are more specialized than others. buying a mod that is a 510, will give you more options period. buying a mod that is specialised in pairing with a tank will limit you if you outgrow it.
tanks/cartomizers/clearomizers etc: are the containers for the e-juice and coils and the tip you inhale from. each set of tanks by manufacturer sets what coils can be used with their tanks, some allow coils to be used through multiple tanks(kangertech is one of those companies). check to see how available the coils are, search online at stores, you don't want one you can only buy directly from the company... they will hold you hostage to whatever price they feel like.
mods and tanks can be bought separately or paired in "kits". buying a subohm tank that cannot be used with a low wattage mod as an example, doesn't work well, so you can end up replacing the mod or shelving the tank. ideally to start, you buy a starter kit with a decent tank and mod and go up from there... usually you keep using the same mod, just upgrade to a better tank. buying a low wattage mod, means you will be replacing a mod again at some point, people usually go up in wattage. either way, the mod is very, very important unless you have money to burn... most would rather spend the money on upgrading the tanks
mods: are they device that supplies the power, the safety controls and a few other extras you aren't interested in at this point. they dictate the limits of the tanks and coils you can use by limiting the wattage available.
a mod can have an external or internal battery. external battery is a battery that can be removed to be charged, internal batteries means they are not removable and when they fail the mod needs to be replaced. pass through means whether or not you can use it while it's charging, not all mods are capable of this. not all batteries work with every device, some are more specialized than others. buying a mod that is a 510, will give you more options period. buying a mod that is specialised in pairing with a tank will limit you if you outgrow it.
tanks/cartomizers/clearomizers etc: are the containers for the e-juice and coils and the tip you inhale from. each set of tanks by manufacturer sets what coils can be used with their tanks, some allow coils to be used through multiple tanks(kangertech is one of those companies). check to see how available the coils are, search online at stores, you don't want one you can only buy directly from the company... they will hold you hostage to whatever price they feel like.
mods and tanks can be bought separately or paired in "kits". buying a subohm tank that cannot be used with a low wattage mod as an example, doesn't work well, so you can end up replacing the mod or shelving the tank. ideally to start, you buy a starter kit with a decent tank and mod and go up from there... usually you keep using the same mod, just upgrade to a better tank. buying a low wattage mod, means you will be replacing a mod again at some point, people usually go up in wattage. either way, the mod is very, very important unless you have money to burn... most would rather spend the money on upgrading the tanks
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