New. On the fence. Advice wanted

[BlueBlurSpeedsBy]

Hello all.

I recently discovered the world of e cigs and vaping, and since then I've been very excited to try it! I've been doing my research, learning about the brands, parts, e juice, etc. I went to a dealer and tried one out for myself and loved it. I love the option to customize it, the many flavors to try, and I just generally think it's a great alternative to smoking cigarettes, and eventually, quit them. Everything about e cigs sounded amazing to me...til I heard about them exploding. You know the saying, when it's too good to be true, it usually is.


I've read up on the various incidents. Many of them explode while charging, or even in your face (according to that one now famous incident). I realize that anything with a lithium battery can and has exploded (laptops, cell phones), but it seems to be as though e cigs do it more frequently. Just doing a search on this board with "explode" brought up dozens of threads regarding personal accounts. I understand that battery safety is key (always charge in a wall, always take off when finished charging, never leave unattended, use native power adapters, etc), but I have never seen a community of people so adamant about it. When I have to buy a flame ......ant bag to charge my e cig, something is wrong...

Now I'm starting to wonder about quality. Does buying more expensive cigs mean there is less of a chance? How less of a chance will there be if I fork out some money? I was originally going to buy this starter kit listed on ebay, which is the 1100mah ce4 start kit.

When I went to the dealer, he told me that e cigs range from 30 to 500 dollars. I was pleased when I found this deal on ebay, but now I don't know what to think

I understand this is generally new technology, but I'm of the paranoid type, and I need some piece of mind. I don't want to take it to work and have to worry about it blowing up in my locker, in my pocket, or in my hand! I also don't want to have to worry about leaving it home, and then coming home from work to find my apartment burnt to a crisp.

If any of you e cig veterans out their can shed some light, I would be most appreciative, because this issue is the only thing holding my back from getting one, and moving on with my life.

 

[eratikmind]

If you proceed with knowledge, understanding, and a bit of "fear and trembling" you will be just fine.

ETA: Less than the above and the Messenger of Vaping Misery may be knocking upon your door.

 

[supertrunker]

I think people are bad at assessing risk.

I use a mechanical mod, widely regarded as the unsafe end of vaping, because there is no safety whatsoever built in to the device apart from perhaps a fuse. I have only ever had one battery vent and that was because of a fault in the charger.
Nothing i have ever used has gone postal in my face or pocket or whatever. These events are extremely rare.

I do think you have a point in that you get what you pay for, and if you modify a $25 clone starter kit, use the wrong charger and try to use seriously low-resistance coils in it, then you're heading for trouble.

If on the other hand - you use good equipment, quality batteries and chargers, then it's as safe as anything else you do in your daily life.

T

 

[CptJYossarian]

All about being smart. Things go wrong all the time. How many times have I heard about someone at work slicing their finger open when they were chopping vegetables or meat. It happens, a lot. Most of those people were in a rush, or not paying attention, or were new and didn't know knife technique. One of my good friends however has been a cook for 14 years and has never cut himself or burnt himself. He's not paranoid or obsessive, just careful.

Safety is important. Most of the cigalikes and egos and regulated boxes (MVP 2.0 and such) are essentially foolproof. The explosions come from when you start being stupid, and not careful. Stacking batteries in a mechanical mod (a metal tube ffs), dropping your resistance past the threshold of your battery, not knowing what you're doing, not checking for shorts on your devices, etc etc. There's a lot of places to go wrong, but a lot of these incidents occur with people pushing boundaries in ignorant ways.

If you're looking to get of the analogs then e cigarettes are a wonderful decision. Don't get some ridiculously complicated set up when you start, and if you ever do decide to delve into this wonderful yet somewhat dangerous world do you research, follow your safety protocols, and you will be fine.

As for the charger battery things, I've been using nothing but the best charger (imo) - the Nitecore digi series. I leave the batteries unattended all the time and have been doing this for months with no issue. These chargers are expensive, but they have a lot of safety features that make me safe. A lot of the charger and battery issues come from, again, ignorance and misuse. Don't buy a 3 $ chinese made unlabeled battery charger from an unknown manufacturer, for instance, as that's asking for trouble.

There's a lot to go into here, but overall if you're new I don't even reccomend worrying about things like that yet. Get an ego. a clearomizer or tankomizer, and some juice. See how you like it. If it works for you, then you can go ahead and think about getting some more of the advanced gear after doing your research.

 

[classwife]

Changed title to New. On the fence. Advice wanted

 

[Robino1]

Honestly? I don't know if I would trust an ecig purchase from eBay. There probably are reputable sellers but do you really know?

There are very knowledgeable people that can help you find where to purchase if you let them know what device you are looking for. They are here on this forum

One of the key things is to make sure your charger is made for the ecig that you are purchasing. Just because the pieces fit doesn't mean that it is a good thing.

 

[buddyo31]

There are a lot of fake batteries out there. I have only purchased innokin so I can't speak for other manufacturers. But if you buy an itaste for instance there is a code that can be entered online to show it is authentic. Most authentic have battery protection, meaning they won't explode. The itaste vv is good starter and only cost $45. The tank will be an extra $20ish depending on what you want. I would get pyrex (glass). Plastic can crack with certain juice.

 

[supertrunker]

Classwife been promoted to admin now? About damn time!

2 hot mods in the space of 5 posts...what are the odds?

Anyway, Cpt's advice is solid - get an Ego device or a Vision spinner or iTaste CLK - they're all about the same and be meticulous with keeping it clean. I have a friend at work that has used nothing else for 2 years and is quite happy with it.

He has no interest at all in rebuilding this and that, he just wants to vape, not smoke. And that's the cheapest way to begin.

T

 

[Davey59]

Nothing wrong with eBay, I do it all the time just watch the seller ratings and READ the descriptions.

My first purchase was the eGo-T with the Ce4. Actually I think that is what the ego-T stand for. If you can get it cheap enough the battery will make a good in a pinch spare.
I would go straight for the Vision Spinner and a Protank 3 mini if money is the issue. That was my second setup and it blows the first away. Good AeroTanks and clones of said can be had cheap too if you want even better capacity and vape. RealTank's clone of the Aero can be had for 10 bucks buy it now. Coils that come with clones are generally crap if you can see the wicks hanging (old style) so get at least pack of good ones.

I would not be paranoid about the batteries and explosions until you inevitably start upgrading and then it boils down to common sense and making sue your not ignorant about what you NEED to do.

 

[supertrunker]

The 'T' in Ego-T stood for "twist" i thought, because it's a vv device.

T

 

[djsvapour]

To my mind, a good quality mod with a good quality battery is probably as safe as it gets... which can never be 100%, especially if the batteries are being charged independently outside of a concrete vault.

Is a Provari safer than a Sigelei or Innokin or Joyetech mod? I would say so.

Do I worry about using a $15-$30 Kanger or Joyetech or Vision battery? Not really.

ebay is ebay - buy the genuine products and the safety game is no more dangerous than any normal vendor. However, I personally suspect there are more "fakes" (not clones, but fake branded goods) on auction sites than vendors who rely on repeat business.

 

[classwife]

The 'T' in Ego-T stood for "twist" i thought, because it's a vv device.

T

Actually, the T came with release of the Tank Systems
Joyetech eGo-T, Tank System starter kits

 

[Noble Gas]

I agree with most of the other advice here, and would only like to add that getting a decent ohm and volt meter, and learning how and when to use it, is your greatest ally in the quest for safe vaping. You won't have to worry so much about your battery exploding when you know that the atomizer you're putting on it doesn't have a short.
Just be diligent and mindful, read all the safety stuff you can find, get decent gear based on reviews and research, and you'll probably never have any problems.

 

[Davey59]

The 'T' in Ego-T stood for "twist" i thought, because it's a vv device.

T

Mine is not, unless I missed the dial.......

Aha, just found one I have not even taken out of the package. eGo-T is the battery. This is packaged as a Ce4 electronic cigarette. That clearo is a waste of time. I will say in comparison to my Joye510 I thought it was good.

 

[djsvapour]

I got a "free" Tornado T about 2 weeks ago with a bargain EVIC kit.

Absolutely terrible. I also tried the normal type a and b ones two years ago.

Epic-ally bad. I can't believe this stuff is still on sale.

 

[AWADD09]

My old Iphone 4's battery blew up, I still have an Iphone. I have found common sense precautions, talking to others with experience, and doing your due diligence are the best measures to Vape Safely.

 

[oplholik]

BlueBlurSpeedsBy, good advice in the previous comments. My hats off to you. It's good to see a new person come into the forum, having done some research, and asking questions, learning even more, before jumping off into who knows what. There are too many that just jump in. What you learn here, and your good common sense will take you far. Good luck to you.

 

[Nana Gail]

Hi, I'll bet your even more confused than before you asked for the advice. Excuse us old vapers for trying to give you too much info all at once. You stated that your problem is not what gear to use but the whole Battery operated ecig theory. I think you need to start with the Flash light concept. A flashlight needs batteries to work and many are now operated by rechargable batteries. ecig is the same except you fire up a coil to heat the juice instead of lighting a bulb. When you buy a flash light the package tells you what batteries it needs and how to install them. Same for ecig except the simpler ones are just that, batteries with pretty wrappers. Most kits come with the appropriate charger and tank or Clearomizer that will operate safely with that battery. Some are fancy and you can turn up the voltage to increase power output but never so high as to hurt the battery ( just makes it run out of power faster). These are self regulating and will stop output when voltage drops below safe level for the battery. The batteries that have issues have been asked to do what they were not designed to do,mostly by people who are a little over the top. These are Sport Vapers and not using the same gear as everyday vapers. Think about it, your car has a huge battery in it. How often do you hear of one exploding, they can under the same conditions as even a flashlight battery. Cell phones as mentioned also explode on occasion but not something that happens every day. The key is use the right charger, inspect your battery for dents or defects, charge only for as long as instructed with consumer information you get with the battery. Just simple steps and you'll have done everything to have a great Vaping Journey. I have bought at least a dozen batteries off ebay and I have yet to have any problems with them, I use them in rotation and am pleased as punch with the savings on price and performance. So don't let fear keep you from something that can only be much safer than smoking tobacco. Lots of luck and have a great Vape adventure.

 

[Ironmaidon1]

My only comment, since everyone pretty much laid out the normal stuff is avoid the ce4's mabey look for one of the aspire delux starter kits with say a 1100-1400mah battery and the aspire nautalis mini tank. I dont own the battery but do have the tank. Great performance and has never leaked. Im just trying to help you skip 1 step in the vaping growing pains.

Sent from my mind via fingers on my S4.

 

[BlueBlurSpeedsBy]

Wow, thanks for all the replies. Definitely eased my mind a bit. I've been eyeing an ego -t 1300 mah on ebay, but I'm going to do a little more research before I buy something. I think I'd feel a little better going to a dealer in person and looking at the options. I want something with overcharge protection, and perhaps variable voltage. I also wanted protected batteries. These are all things I'm gonna have to keep in mind. I never knew vaping could be so complicated, and the funny thing is, I know I'm just barely scratching the surface.

Edit: I just found out that the Ego-C has more protection and seems like an over all better product. Unfortunately the only versions I can find on ebay are knock off "Jomotech".