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Woody-GC

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I have been able to initially start with 15 drops and refill with about 8-10 drops thereafter. Last quite awhile as compared the plain atty before needing more liquid. Taste great and pretty good throat hit.

I haven't tried more than 15 drops initially so it may actually take more.
 

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Well if you have read the last few pages I have had a big day playing with my new toys. While doing so and looking through my treasure box of thing to reuse or mod later I found this below one of three I had put up.
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I thought hmmm I wounder will they fit so I tried popped it on the Phoenix clone and WOW. One pump fills the atty and its good for about five pumps. I am glad I save stuff to tinker with later :thumbs:
 

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That sux,sorry you have been having bad luck.I guess you checked a couple ?Whats the point of the ego top if you need an adapter is it for some other reason ?

I think some of my bad luck is due to my own personal ignorance, I did not ask specifically for a version that allowed a CE4, so perhaps I was taken advantage of and given something older. I just don't know.

Not sure about why they would make it like this, seems pretty ignorant to other devices. I am sure there was a reason for the design, just not sure what it is. It's an awesome device to be sure, works extremely well, so it's not a quality thing, just a "ce4 well" issue. an adapter takes care of that.

Eric do you think will be getting kanthal wire and wicks perhaps SS mesh. I know you had kanthal and wicks before I had them in my wish list along with some flavoring I wanted to try out. So will you have any of it back.

To be completely honest, I have had to stop spending, (on new stuff, not sellers, T2 innards are due this week for instance) but there are lots of things I want to get but working for no realized profit is very difficult, if I hadn't had a recent spate of bad products it wouldn't be a problem, but it's been a really poor 45 days, I have 160 DCT tanks with primer liquid in them, I have 800 replaceable coils that do not fit anything, 100 batteries that are crap quality and the list goes on. There have been a few late nights where I was in a "throw in the towel" mood. One of my best friends in my vendor circle just gave up and packed it in, that's depressing because he was a lot like me.

I have two new items I really like in front of me, one a new rebuildable "K2" (just as a reference, not it's real name) that has vaped really well and not leaked at all and a elips type dual carto tank (two cartos in the tank) that is also leak free and has great flavor. (It's not an elips, just looks similar)

But I can't buy them, I am over extended already.


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I also found a manufacturer that has sent me some really good versions of my most popular products (I hesitate to say "copy" or "knockoff" because they are actually better). This manufacturer is so far honest, on time, helpful and determined to get my business. He actually went out an bought a packaging machine and poly to pack them how I asked them to be packed. (note: I know that sounds like a load of bull, but in this case, I actually believe him) first sample packing was cheap thin poly, second after I asked for a change was professional good packing. He's also the first one to ever send me anything without paying for it.

The only problem is the "name". I can't sell them for what they are not, that wouldn't be honest on my part but at the same time I know they won't sell nearly as well (or at all) as the "name" product so I cannot support this manufacturer as much as I want to. I know just based on what he's done so far that the Nova, the Mini and the new rebuildable CE4+ (thor, vision) would all be equal or better than the "original"

One of my most popular products is the CE4+, here on my desk sits an item that is exactly the same, even with a magnifying glass I cannot see any difference at all, I think maybe the under side center ring on the connector post is a hair thinner but that could be my imagination. I can't tell you how impressed I am, to the point of thinking it's better, maybe it is, maybe it isn't it could be my desire to believe it is better, not sure. But I haven't tested a bad one yet, they all vape certainly as well as the name brand.

But what do I do? Stop getting the "name" brand to support this "new to me" manufacturer? Potentially lose sales because of the name? Try to start support for a new one?

In my opinion, I think this manufacturer is the one that supplies all the parts to the rest and is just now getting into direct distribution. I can't be sure of course, but I think so.

I think my best course of action is to brand them "DV" and be done with it. See what happens.
I've put them on the website here:
DV eGo CE4+ Clearomizer - V2 - Clear


I'd appreciate any advice about this from you all, I don't pretend to know what's best or what will work or not work. But I have to do something, I can't keep rolling the dice with manufacturers. It's killing me.
 

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Eric, do those replaceable coils work in the Thor? Just wondering because I think it's every bit as good as the one known by another name.
I really hate what the manufacturers seem to be doing to the vendors!!!!

No they do not properly fit anything. I have one in a Vivi Nova right now but it doesn't screw down all the way, it works, but it is not in any way ideal. They are for Thor/Vision 2.0 copies that have lower center posts. I could buy them but I'd rather not confuse it any more than it already is. It works on the Vivi because the threading on the tank is more forgiving, they will not work on a thor because you wouldn't be able to get the drip tip on it.
 

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Eric,

I understand about not being able to sell a like item under the original name, and being a small business person myself, I also understand the cashflow aspects.

Perhaps it is time to introduce the "DV" brand. For example, if there is an item that is identical to, or even better than, a CE4, there could be a DV-CE4 offered, and in the description an explanation of the improvement, or if not improved the compatability.

I'm always for better items, and if you've found a supplier that is good to work with (perhaps like you trying to build his business) then a partnership would be a very good thing.

Just my thoughts.

Rodeogeorge
 

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Eric,

I understand about not being able to sell a like item under the original name, and being a small business person myself, I also understand the cashflow aspects.

Perhaps it is time to introduce the "DV" brand. For example, if there is an item that is identical to, or even better than, a CE4, there could be a DV-CE4 offered, and in the description an explanation of the improvement, or if not improved the compatability.

I'm always for better items, and if you've found a supplier that is good to work with (perhaps like you trying to build his business) then a partnership would be a very good thing.

Just my thoughts.

Rodeogeorge

agreed, thanks :)

I caved and put it up to see what happens, I can't justify just leaving them in a box or I'll end up using 500 of them myself LOL

DV eGo CE4+ Clearomizer - V2 - Clear

My description leaves a little to be desired because I am just kinda tired lol
 

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Eric,

I understand about not being able to sell a like item under the original name, and being a small business person myself, I also understand the cashflow aspects.

Perhaps it is time to introduce the "DV" brand. For example, if there is an item that is identical to, or even better than, a CE4, there could be a DV-CE4 offered, and in the description an explanation of the improvement, or if not improved the compatability.

I'm always for better items, and if you've found a supplier that is good to work with (perhaps like you trying to build his business) then a partnership would be a very good thing.

Just my thoughts.

Rodeogeorge
I second this Eric :) Sounds like this new guy might be a good thing & it's time for a DV brand. Of course I've found nothing but good with anything I've ever bought from you. I'd feel confident in buying a "DV" brand. Your honesty & caring for us the consumer the way you have has built a trust with us for you that sometimes we neglect to tell you. So Carry On Eric, GO FOR IT ! :D

(p.s.) I wish I had money to help you with your investment costs cuz I would do it. Needless to say, I just a poor old lady so I can't :(
 

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Eric,

I understand about not being able to sell a like item under the original name, and being a small business person myself, I also understand the cashflow aspects.

Perhaps it is time to introduce the "DV" brand. For example, if there is an item that is identical to, or even better than, a CE4, there could be a DV-CE4 offered, and in the description an explanation of the improvement, or if not improved the compatability.

I'm always for better items, and if you've found a supplier that is good to work with (perhaps like you trying to build his business) then a partnership would be a very good thing.

Just my thoughts.

Rodeogeorge

I agree RodeoGeorge! But will the new vendor stand behind his quality? The other mfgs. aren't standing by theirs, but at least it would be easier to specify exactly what you want vs the other mfgs. sending you non-usable variations of what you sampled or worse changing the product so it is non-usable on anything they had sent in prior purchases.
 

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I agree RodeoGeorge! But will the new vendor stand behind his quality? The other mfgs. aren't standing by theirs, but at least it would be easier to specify exactly what you want vs the other mfgs. sending you non-usable variations of what you sampled or worse changing the product so it is non-usable on anything they had sent in prior purchases.

almost no manufacturer stands behind their products with the exception of Segelei and the people who make my pass through (secret) LOL

they are the only two companies so far that have gone out of their way to replace bad items. I expect this new one to just based on our business so far so he'll probably be the third in my stable but all of the rest without exception do not, they will make deals to send you new products and their refund replacement policy is just that "we will make them better next time" Segelei and the other one have both sent me products as makeups no cost to me.

(so if you want to support a good manufacturer, buy the Segelei stuff)

the one who sent me the tanks with liquid... "that's normal, we test them before they go out" "we put less in next time, how many you want to order" Yea.. no orders from them ever again.

of course there are a few I haven't needed to test out, Vision and Smoktech do not send me anything but decent products so they aren't on the list just because I haven't had any really "bad" products, wrong sometimes but not "bad".

That said I stand behind it so it's not a worry for the end user, just me.
 

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the one who sent me the tanks with liquid... "that's normal, we test them before they go out" "we put less in next time, how many you want to order" Yea.. no orders from them ever again.
Sorry Eric but this just made me giggle :laugh: I read it in a 'forgeign' language there :laugh: I could just picture that....anyways my question.....Is it possible to wash out the tanks ? or are you really stuck with them as livingroom decorator bookshelf pieces ? Can you sell them as WASH FIRST or no ? :unsure:
 
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