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JayTeeA2

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Hi there. I can't post this anywhere but the new members' forum because I'm new. I've been lurking for quite a while though.

Brief history: started with very cigarette-looking E-cigs about 10 months ago, switched to Ego twists/tanks because the flavor was magnitudes of order better (and cheaper using your own liquid), and I'm really happy to say I have no desire to smoke a regular cigarette ever again. "Quitting" was easy (though it doesn't feel like I've honestly quit!).

I've been happy-ish with the Ego twists for a couple months.

Finally, I started reading about Provari E-cigs, and I had to have one. Made in the US, warranty, seemed sturdy, great reviews, and I like gadgets. So I bought one.

I love it -- the flavor and hit is smooth, just enough throat hit if I dial it up enough, and the adjustable voltage is better then the Ego twist, though the button clicking is more work. Regardless, I would say I'm a satisfied customer, except the following.

I bought the starter kit which comes with two high-drain batteries. I took one out of the shipment and put it into the Provari. I charged the other, which didn't take long at all (the charger light was green within half an hour).

The first battery died pretty quickly, but I figured that was because it came from Provape partially drained. So I charged that. Then I left for the evening with the newly charged battery in the Provari and the second charged battery on me.

The first battery ran out within a couple hours of moderate vaping, the second ran out later in the evening while vaping moderately, after a 2-hour movie with no vaping. So I basically had nothing last night (except a backup Ego I grabbed before I left. Guess I would have just gone without otherwise.)

When I got home today, I charged both batteries (charging was really fast again -- maybe 45 minutes for the more drained one). I put one charged battery back in, and it's still there, but I've had to take it out and put it back in a couple times when the Provari thinks it's dead. It turns out not to be dead each time.

The "check battery" function reports the voltage around 4.1/4.2 when newly installed. Reporting 3.8 right now (and this was hours after charging it), but I have had to take it in and out a couple times, and I've seen it reported as low as 3.4 (maybe 3.2?).

Any ideas? It seems like taking the battery out and putting it in again resets something, but the Provari itself won't even let me take a hit when it thinks it's dead (blue button flashing, etc.).
 

OlDogNewTricks

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It should read about 4.2V if it is fully charged. What size is the battery? 18350? 18490? 18500? 18650? Remember, the higher the voltage that you vape at and the smaller the battery, the shorter the usable charge life of it. 45 minutes sounds pretty quick for a charge time. What charger do you have? Good luck and have fun!
 

JayTeeA2

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Oct 20, 2013
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I had that issue when I got my first. Couldn't wait for the batteries to have a full charge. Solved the issue after charging each battery for 6 hours.

According to the charger (Tenergy TN270), the battery is charged when the light is green on the charger, and I've been waiting until that light is green.

The starter kit I got was here:

ProVari Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette Starter Kit V2.5

This comes with two 18490 batteries.

The problem isn't that I mind if the batteries die -- I mean, they always will until someone invents the infiniBattery -- the problem is that I take the battery out when the Provari tells me it's dead, I put the same battery back in, and suddenly, it's no longer "dead".

I have let this other battery, the one I haven't used all day long, sit in the charger all day long, even though the charger indicated it was fully charged hours ago. Maybe I'll switch soon and see if the problem continues with that battery.

Seems to me if the charger says it's charged, it's charged.
 

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From the usage to drain time, you probably have the 18350's. Depending on your vaping, these could last anywhere from two to eight hours. You didn't mention what type of battery, and I don't know what came in your kit, but the Provari is recommended to use ONLY with the AW IMR battery. They cost more, but do more, and are very important to the Provari. To make your batteries last longer, get an extension tube and some bigger batteries. Also, the Tatroe rings add enough to go to the next size. One Tatroe from 18350 to 18490 (18500), add another for 18500 to 18650. I need two 18650's to get through a day, or a handful of 18350's. The great thing about the Provari though is the ability to use the small form factor mini with 18350 batts, and using rings and extension caps, you can grow it to a full size APV. I have two and wish I had bought the mini the first time. I did buy the regular Provari and extension cap, so I can use 18490 and 18650 batteries. Also, the Provari is picky about the AW brand batteries. I use them exclusively, as do most Provari owners.

Remember that the 18350 battery is about the same battery life as a medium sized ego battery. When using variable voltage, an LED screen, etc., you use more battery life quicker, than on a stick battery, so keep that in mind, as well. Now if you write back and say you're only getting a two hour charge on your 18650 batteries, then there is a problem or usage issue somewhere along the line. Also, you cannot tell from your charger what your battery charge really is, only a certain average while under charge, which is different than the charge if you just check the Provari after charging. Hope something here helps. Good luck and best to you!
 

JayTeeA2

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From the usage to drain time, you probably have the 18350's.

But they are 18490s. The kit I ordered says they are 18490s, and the battery itself has "18490" stamped on its label. From these facts, I would deduce they are 18490s.

Additionally, it's not the battery DRAIN time I'm worried about.

It's the fact that the Provari says they're "dead" by flashing the blue light underneath the button, yet when I take that same battery out and put it in again without charging it, it's suddenly no longer "dead" but might register anywhere from 3.4 to 4.0 volts.

Anyone with Provari experience or a Provari rep care to comment?
 

Topwater Elvis

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I really dislike saying this but, the tenergy chargers that come in the kit are notoriously flaky. Could be you got a bad one.
A high quality charger is one of the most important parts of removable battery vape gear, they can help a battery live a long life or a sub par charger can kill batteries in a couple days.

To me it sounds like one of the contact points is dirty.
Most inaccurate readings or inconsistent operation problems can be cured by cleaning the positive contact inside the tube and the bottom/base cap threads & threads on the tube (a dab of noalox here helps too) and the 510 connection with a qtip's & rubbing alcohol.
 

JayTeeA2

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Oct 20, 2013
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Contact your vender it sounds like the senser that detects the battery voltage in the provari is defective. Good thing is it's covered for repairs

I wondered if that might be the case but thought I'd check here first to see if it was common or something I was doing wrong.

I'll try contacting Provape to see what they say. Thanks!
 

JayTeeA2

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Oct 20, 2013
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I really dislike saying this but, the tenergy chargers that come in the kit are notoriously flaky. Could be you got a bad one.
A high quality charger is one of the most important parts of removable battery vape gear, they can help a battery live a long life or a sub par charger can kill batteries in a couple days.

To me it sounds like one of the contact points is dirty.
Most inaccurate readings or inconsistent operation problems can be cured by cleaning the positive contact inside the tube and the bottom/base cap threads & threads on the tube (a dab of noalox here helps too) and the 510 connection with a qtip's & rubbing alcohol.

Ah - I will try that as well, maybe before contacting Provape. Thank you!
 

JayTeeA2

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Oct 20, 2013
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Ah - I will try that as well, maybe before contacting Provape. Thank you!

Although come to think of it, if it were the battery charger, the batteries wouldn't be lasting so long. The battery I put in this morning is reading 3.6 (but after I just now had to remove it and put it back into the Provari yet again because the Provari said it was dead). I think the best thing to do is let Provape know.
 

Thrasher

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dont worry - contact provape immediately tell them exactly what you told us. they are very responsive when someone has a problem and wont leave you hanging. I would see what they say first before playing with other things. the sooner they know the sooner they can fix it.

Even if the charger is acting up it shouldnt cause the provari to wig out with the readings, it just wouldnt charge the battery correctly.
 
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JayTeeA2

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Oct 20, 2013
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A brand new device shouldn't have dirty contacts and he said by taking the battery in and out of the provari he got different battery voltage readings. That's the reason I suggested a provari defect

One of the reasons I felt comfortable spending such a hefty amount of money on the Provari (besides the reviews indicating quality of the product) is that I've heard very good things about customer service.

I just submitted a support issue with them online an will let you all know what happens.

Aside from the very obvious problem I'm having (who wants to remove and replace the battery over and over?), I love the quality, and the provided vape is markedly different from the Ego.
 
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