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SJClouds

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Hey so I'm looking to upgrade to a new set up because the set up I'm using now isn't really doing it for me anymore. I'm using a 20w istick with a natilus mini, while I like it, the battery isn't doing it for me anymore cause I have to charge it every other day and I want something with more smoke kind of tank. I'm looking to spend around $100 max $150 for everything and I would like the tank to be like the mini where you can just switch out coils every week or so. So any suggestions on what to get? Also any websites where I can get them would be good also. Thanks.
 

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You're still going to have to charge your battery depending on how much you vape. You could try the iStick 50w. That's a 4400mah device, so longer vape time. I just picked up the Infinite Vapor Flask 40w clone that's great, but it uses 2 18650 batteries. You can charge them in the device or in a charger. There you could have an extra set of batteries waiting.
As for a tank, you mean more vapor, not smoke? (Sorry, with the whole 'lets tax the vapors!' Idea going around and people wanting to label what we do as smoking, I'm in a 'lets correct the terminology' mood these days - no offense). There's always the Subtank Mini - you can get packs of coils. Mine generally last me 2-3 weeks unless I'm an idiot and forget to turn the wattage back down after I change the batteries - fried a coil at 40w yesterday. Ick! I'm not familiar with the Atlantis tanks, so I'll leave that to someone else to suggest.
The iStick 50w runs around $50.
The Vapor Flask clone I have was around $120.
Batteries will run you a bit more on top of that.
Subtank Mini is around $35 or so.


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You're still going to have to charge your battery depending on how much you vape. You could try the iStick 50w. That's a 4400mah device, so longer vape time. I just picked up the Infinite Vapor Flask 40w clone that's great, but it uses 2 18650 batteries. You can charge them in the device or in a charger. There you could have an extra set of batteries waiting.
As for a tank, you mean more vapor, not smoke? (Sorry, with the whole 'lets tax the vapors!' Idea going around and people wanting to label what we do as smoking, I'm in a 'lets correct the terminology' mood these days - no offense). There's always the Subtank Mini - you can get packs of coils. Mine generally last me 2-3 weeks unless I'm an idiot and forget to turn the wattage back down after I change the batteries - fried a coil at 40w yesterday. Ick! I'm not familiar with the Atlantis tanks, so I'll leave that to someone else to suggest.
The iStick 50w runs around $50.
The Vapor Flask clone I have was around $120.
Batteries will run you a bit more on top of that.
Subtank Mini is around $35 or so.


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Thanks I will look into those I was thinking about the 50w istick but don't know what kind of tank I should get for it.
 

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Check out the Subtank mini or even the nano in a shop if you get the chance. They have 1.2 and 0.5 ohm coils. I have a mini and a nano and use both resistance of coils.


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I'm looking at the Subtank mini right now and am confused. You can either rebuild the coil or get a replacement? Is the only replacement coil that you can use is the rectangular organic cotton coils? Or can you use other replacement coils?
 

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I'm looking at the Subtank mini right now and am confused. You can either rebuild the coil or get a replacement? Is the only replacement coil that you can use is the rectangular organic cotton coils? Or can you use other replacement coils?

The subtank mini comes with 2 types of coils heads.
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The rectangular one is the 'replaceable' type.
The round one is the rebuildable (rba) type with screws to screw down the new coils.


The rba type looks like this:
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This one fits in the full sized subtank, so not sure if it fits in the mini of if the rba head for the mini looks different on the inside.
 
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The subtank mini comes with 2 types of coils heads.
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The rectangular one is the 'replaceable' type.
The round one is the rebuildable type with screws to screw down the new coils.

Ah ok so if I just use the rectangular one it's going to be like my nautilus mini right now right? Where I just replace the coil when it's done? I don't need to use the round one if I use that one?
 

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Ah ok so if I just use the rectangular one it's going to be like my nautilus mini right now right? Where I just replace the coil when it's done? I don't need to use the round one if I use that one?

Correct; you can use either one.

If you want to rebuild your own coil heads instead of buying heads and throwing away, then you just use the round types instead of the rectangular type.
(Some people do rebuild the rectangular types though.)
 

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Ah ok so if I just use the rectangular one it's going to be like my nautilus mini right now right? Where I just replace the coil when it's done? I don't need to use the round one if I use that one?

You got it. It just gives you the option to rebuild if you want to with the round thing.
 

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You can check to see if they are listed in the Supplier forums here.

Thanks will do. I've always wondered does rebuilding your own coils save money or it's about the same as using a replaceable one? I've never done anything with rebuildables so I don't know much about them. Would it be better to rebuild? Also if I get the Subtank mini I would be using it on the 50w iStick that should be ok right?
 

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Thanks will do. I've always wondered does rebuilding your own coils save money or it's about the same as using a replaceable one? I've never done anything with rebuildables so I don't know much about them. Would it be better to rebuild? Also if I get the Subtank mini I would be using it on the 50w iStick that should be ok right?

1: merely rewicking your coils will save a lot of money; you might dryburn and rewick a coil 5 or ten times before it finally burns out; when I used tanks I used to rewick my coil every 3 days or so.

rebuilding your own coil allows you to choose what wire gauge you want to use; thicker wire will last longer. 28 gauge is popular on rebuildables; the stock coils for clearomizers might often be 34 and 32 gauge usually .... in the past.

rebuilding also means you control the quality control yourself; quality control has always been an issue with buying replacement coils; what do you do when you buy a pack of replacement coils and one or more of them turn out to be duds when you attempt to use them.

2: sure the subtank mini will be fine on the 50w istick; that doesn't mean you can just crank up to 50 watts; the wattage you end up using depends on the coil you put in.
 

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1: merely rewicking your coils will save a lot of money; you might dryburn and rewick a coil 5 or ten times before it finally burns out; when I used tanks I used to rewick my coil every 3 days or so.

rebuilding your own coil allows you to choose what wire gauge you want to use; thicker wire will last longer. 28 gauge is popular on rebuildables; the stock coils for clearomizers might often be 34 and 32 gauge usually .... in the past.

rebuilding also means you control the quality control yourself; quality control has always been an issue with buying replacement coils; what do you do when you buy a pack of replacement coils and one or more of them turn out to be duds when you attempt to use them.

2: sure the subtank mini will be fine on the 50w istick; that doesn't mean you can just crank up to 50 watts; the wattage you end up using depends on the coil you put in.

I see I'm going to be using the rectangular coils for now until I learn more about rebuildables. How much wattage do you think I should be vaping at if I'm using the replaceable coils?
 

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I see I'm going to be using the rectangular coils for now until I learn more about rebuildables. How much wattage do you think I should be vaping at if I'm using the replaceable coils?

Usually they make coils expecting a 4 volt source. (Nominal voltage 3.7 volts).
So you can set 3.7 or 4 volts thereabouts and adjust from there.

watts = volts x volts / ohms
for a 1 ohm coil that's about 16 watts.
for a 0.5 ohm coil it's more like 30 watts.

start low and move up; if you start high and move down, you burn something and you won't get rid of the burnt taste.
 

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Usually they make coils expecting a 4 volt source. (Nominal voltage 3.7 volts).
So you can set 3.7 or 4 volts thereabouts and adjust from there.

watts = volts x volts / ohms
for a 1 ohm coil that's about 16 watts.
for a 0.5 ohm coil it's more like 30 watts.

start low and move up; if you start high and move down, you burn something and you won't get rid of the burnt taste.

I see I will see what watt I like best, thanks. It's crazy every site is out of stock on the 50 w iStick it's insane.
 

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I see I will see what watt I like best, thanks. It's crazy every site is out of stock on the 50 w iStick it's insane.

Since you already have an istick, I think you'd be better off getting a replaceable battery mod like a vamo10, svd2, e-lvt2, or a sigelei.

With a replaceable battery mod, you end up building up a ...well... small team of batteries; some older than others and some newer; the old guys might not last as long as the new guys, but you know who is who and how to deploy them.

With your istick, gradually it's going to get weaker and weaker, and you can't just swap out the battery inside (unless you know where to get one and use a soldering iron).
 
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Since you already have an istick, I think you'd be better off getting a replaceable battery mod like a vamo10, svd2, e-lvt2, or a sigelei.

What battery do you think I should get? I just want something to last me a good while for battery life and something I can travel in my car with without being too big.
 

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What battery do you think I should get? I just want something to last me a good while for battery life and something I can travel in my car with without being too big.

any of those listed should be good; the vamo's are like the ford model in vape mods; lots of them around; might need some fixing and highly fixable.
svd is by innokin; reputable producer;
we don't hear much about the e-lvt, but the product seems pretty rugged- and it's one of the few with on board charging where you plug in to charge like he istick.
Sigelei is pretty top notch reputation wise; theres supposed to be a sigelei50 watt although latest one is 150 watt.


with the replaceable battery mods you'd also need to get batteries and a charger.
reputable chargers are like the nitecore i2 or d2, the xtar, the pila.

batteries; I use efest.
there's Samsung 25r
Look for 'IMR' batteries with an amp rating of 20 amps or more. Size: 18650
 
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any of those listed should be good; the vamo's are like the ford model in vape mods; lots of them around; might need some fixing and highly fixable.
svd is by innokin; reputable producer;
we don't hear much about the e-lvt, but the product seems pretty rugged- and it's one of the few with on board charging where you plug in to charge like he istick.
Sigelei is pretty top notch reputation wise; theres supposed to be a sigelei50 watt although latest one is 150 watt.


with the replaceable battery mods you'd also need to get batteries and a charger.
reputable chargers are like the nitecore i2 or d2, the xtar, the pila.

batteries; I use efest.
there's Samsung 25r
Look for 'IMR' batteries with an amp rating of 20 amps or more. Size: 18650

I'm trying to order from myvaporstore and they have the Sigelei 50w box for $80 is that a good deal? What type of batteries would be good for that box?
 
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