New Sigelei 20W and Seven 22 = vaping heaven

[DejayRezme]

There is 91% call "The Russian Big". It holds 11 ml of juice, 136 grams (4.79 ounces) in weight and 30 mm wide. It was suppose to be out now, but still nowhere to be found.

Lol redonkulous! I was wondering if there was a 30mm tank Are there any others?

But seriously I don't need more than 2ml tanks, I rather like changing flavors etc.

 

[LastRide]

Lol redonkulous! I was wondering if there was a 30mm tank Are there any others?

But seriously I don't need more than 2ml tanks, I rather like changing flavors etc.

LOL, not that I have seen other than the Russian big. It would be funny squeezing 2 ml of juice in a 30 mm wide monstrous tank..LOL

 

[faboom]

Question for the Seven 22 folks - what tank(s) are you running on top of the monster? Protank 2s and Aerotanks look like minatures sitting on this beast.

I picked up a couple of Aspire Nautilus tanks to go along with it but haven't gotten them out of the box yet until I figure out what flavor justifies a 5ml tank. I'm still looking for my ADV.

ETA: just put a Nautilus on top and it looks more proportional, but still kinda small. Overall, the Seven 22 w/ a Nautilus is a honking monster of a setup. Geeze is this thing HUGE. But the Nautilus, even at 5ml, looks kinda small.

I'm currently running a Kraken clone on my Seven-22...looks sharp! Dual micro coil build with cotton wicks...vaping around .6ohms. Run it at 12-15watts with Chai juice (20-80). Vapes like no tomorrow and lasted 4 days on one 22650. I've been to 22watts on a few builds...I'm just not currently into running that high...very happy with VW mods running between 6-15watts. I have a few mechs that I use as testers and platforms for builds. I rotate between the Seven-22, MVP, SVD, 134, VTR and a Galileo mech with a Kick 2. They are have performed flawlessly. I do not take them out much (have a couple of ego style batts for that). I find that keeping them clean (batt compartment, threads, etc) keeps them in good working order. Also keeping the threads clean on attys helps. A little everclear is a great thread cleaner then a tiny dap of 3-in-1. Vape on Bros!

 

[DejayRezme]

I put any of my 22mm tanks on the Seven-22, Nautilus, Fogger V4, Kayfun clone. I want to get a 22mm mod eventually but the 4mm step doesn't really bother me that much

 

[Zogman100]

Just got my Seven-22 a couple days ago and it is a beast! With my 5 ml Nautilus and the 26650 batt. I think I could vape for 4 days without worrying about running out of power or juice.

 

[jdmtai]

I just got mine seven 22 last weekend. this thing is a beat. im rocking a omega rda on it. .8 ohms with a 30gauge wire. vapes like a champ!

 

[sandman97289]

I wasn't suggesting you do mechs or sub-Ω. Regulated MODs are awesome and there isn't much need to go mech unless it's for the looks of mech MODs (or perhaps their small size). I (and most people from what I've read) run their Kayfun/Taifun between 1.2Ω-1.8Ω. It'll take about 5 builds to get your setup right, and then you can change builds in a matter of about 10 minutes. I did my last coil build in my recliner in about 10 minutes. And you don't actually have to rebuild the coil very often at all. You can use the same coil until it breaks (which may take months), though you will want to change the cotton and dry burn the coils every couple of days, but that only takes about 2 minutes.

I'm not trying to push you in to building, but rather share the idea that it's not really a hobby you have to invest tons of time in to with a Kayfun in order to get a good vape. An easy single coil at around 1.5Ω is all you need, and you can really start to take advantage of the higher wattages your new 20W can give. I've been running a 1.4Ω coil at 15W, and a 1.7Ω coil at 12W (and a .9Ω coil at the full 20W, though that burns through juice pretty fast) and it's a vastly superior vaping experience to anything a tank can even come close to providing, and all with minimal effort and time, especially once you learn how to do it.

Out of curiosity, are you seeing a significant difference in vapor warmth/taste with your kayfun on your seven 22? The reason I ask is that I'm having a tough time with my evic at 11w with a 1.1ohm single microcoil on my KFL+. I get a lot of vapor, it's just not as warm and flavorful as a dual coil protank/nautilus. So has cranking up the watts to 15-16 made a noticeable difference for you?

 

[blueGrassTubb]

Out of curiosity, are you seeing a significant difference in vapor warmth/taste with your kayfun on your seven 22? The reason I ask is that I'm having a tough time with my evic at 11w with a 1.1ohm single microcoil on my KFL+. I get a lot of vapor, it's just not as warm and flavorful as a dual coil protank/nautilus. So has cranking up the watts to 15-16 made a noticeable difference for you?

I don't have a Seven-22, but a Sigelei 20W. The chips are virtually identical.

With a 1.1Ω coil on a Kayfun, I'd vape at at least 15W, but none of my Kayfuns are coiled that low. My lowest is 1.4Ω and my highest is 1.7Ω (I have a 1.1Ω Taifun, but it's practically unvapeable for me - it's simply too hot).

I can't exacty say what I like about where I vape certain Kayfuns, just that I find a spot that's good for the juice/coil combo and go from there.

 

[HSKeaton]

What are your thoughts on the 20W? So far, I'm loving it (although I haven't and doubt I ever will run it over 10-11W. I tend to stay around 7.5-9 depending on coil and juice). I don't do rebuildables. Just stock Kanger Protanks (IIs and Aeros) and now Aspire Nautilus.

Here's a weird thing. A juice that starts to taste burnt at 10 watts in a VTR, for example, seems to really bloom in Sigelei at 15 watts. Of course different juice and different atomizers behave differently. JMHO, YMMV, ETC. And of course there's some juice that do best at less than 7 watts.

I have the Sigelei 20W, and the iTaste VTR, MPV, VV, and eVic. All, except the eVic do sub-ohm reasonably well but none compare to the Sigelei. While the iTaste seem to start slow when fired, the Sigelei fires, like NOW! In fact, I have nothing negative to say about the Sigelei, only good! I suspect the Seven-22 is just as good, if not better.

I recommend any one moving up to an APV get either the Sigelei 20W or the Seven-22 with the other as backup. JMHO

Now let me find the Seven-22 at a good price!

Hobert


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[gwelker]

Here's a weird thing. A juice that starts to taste burnt at 10 watts in a VTR, for example, seems to really bloom in Sigelei at 15 watts. Of course different juice and different atomizers behave differently. JMHO, YMMV, ETC. And of course there's some juice that do best at less than 7 watts...
Hobert
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Just got my seven-22 after watching Phil Busardo's and RipTripper's reviews. It's not as big as it looks on the videos, but it is hefty, but then again I like the VTR I have.

I've tried every tank (cheap little EGO tanks, Kayfun Lite+ & Russion 91% clones to an authentic "the Russian") and it flawlessly connects and vapes all of them. I definitely noticed the change in consistency of hit/flavor across the board.

Phil had that nice capture of the Seven-22's smooth regulated waveform vs. the typical rattlesnake (pulse-modulated) other VV/VW's put out. I wonder if that's it. Smooth and incredible.

I bought a 26650, and am charging that orange beast now (in a Nitecore i4), but not wanting to wait, or prematurely drain that battery (it had less than half a charge coming in new unused) I just put a bit of non-conducting high density thin foam around one of my NCR18650B's and popped it in. It works no issues (and no rattling). Of course all my coils are built >1.6 right now (not that that should matter?)

Impulse buy blowing my vape budget for this month, BUT, definitely worth it, haven't put it down either. Enjoying the extra smooth/flavorful/full body of all my juices with it.

Got mine at FluidVapes.com since it's on the same coast (almost same city) as me, <119$. I saw a 109$ and 99$ out on ebay but, yeah, don't want to take that risk.

PhilB and RipTripper were right DEFINITELY a great VW mod, if you don't mind (or like?) the heft of it!

(just thought, this sucker with the Kayfun Lite+ or Russian on top looks just like a Saturn V rocket stage... WHOA)

Gregg

 

[HSKeaton]

Since I've discovered the wonderful vape of the Sigelei I'm thinking of getting the Seven-22 as a backup, as if I don't have enough already.

Then again, since I do have the others, I can only imagine what else is on the horizon. Like maybe an eVic with something equivalent to the DNA30 or better.

To buy now, or wait and see????

S.



StarLight Acres

 

[blueGrassTubb]

I thought about getting a Seven-22, but I blew through my vape budget (and then some) with a really nice mech MOD (Akuma by GP Custom) and an exotic handmade and programmed VW MOD from a guy in Australia.

No Seven-22 for me.

 

[MrPlink]

Like maybe an eVic with something equivalent to the DNA30 or better.

They have that. It is called eVic supreme.

Looks like it is based on a 30w SX chip with some added gimmicks, like being able to upload a picture to the display screen and password protection.

Lemme know when it has a touch screen, wifi, gps, blue tooth and mp3 player.

 

[rurwin]

Here's a weird thing. A juice that starts to taste burnt at 10 watts in a VTR, for example, seems to really bloom in Sigelei at 15 watts. Of course different juice and different atomizers behave differently. JMHO, YMMV, ETC. And of course there's some juice that do best at less than 7 watts.

If you put a light sensor in a room with a lightbulb, you can see the 50/60Hz of the mains is making the brightness of the bulb vary. Of course a vaping coil is made of thicker metal so it will vary less, but 33Hz is slower as well. It would not surprise me if the coil temperature varied, especially on a low-ohm build. In fact the rattlesnake effect proves it; if the temperature was constant there would be no variation in the snap and crackle.

Lemme know when it has a touch screen, wifi, gps, blue tooth and mp3 player.

Then it will take 30 seconds or more to boot.

 

[HSKeaton]

To the best of my knowledge I've never heard the 'rattle snake effect'. The only thing I hear from all atomizers is the snap, crackle and pop of the juice boiling off the coils.

S.


StarLight Acres

 

[HSKeaton]

They have that. It is called eVic supreme.

Looks like it is based on a 30w SX chip with some added gimmicks, like being able to upload a picture to the display screen and password protection.

Lemme know when it has a touch screen, wifi, gps, blue tooth and mp3 player.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

I'm off looking for one. It really looks interesting.

S.



StarLight Acres

 

[rurwin]

To the best of my knowledge I've never heard the 'rattle snake effect'. The only thing I hear from all atomizers is the snap, crackle and pop of the juice boiling off the coils.

I hadn't heard it until I wired up a genesis. That doesn't mean that there is no variation in the temperature of a coil being driven with 33Hz PWM, just that it isn't very pronounced or there's too much sound insulation to hear it.

 

[HSKeaton]

I turned the wattage down on me Sigelei 20w, VTR, MVP 2, VV 3, and eVic. Holding each next to my ear in a quiet bedroom, the only thing I hear is a slight sizzle as the juice cooks off. Even on the Vision Spinner, I still don't hear the rattle snake unless I'm mistaking it for the sizzle.

BTW: I put in my order for the eVic Supreme. They've fixed a few quirks from the original and really made it nice.

S.


StarLight Acres

 

[rurwin]

The Sigelei, VV and MVP output DC. The twist and probably the spinner output something close to DC. The eVic runs at 104kHz, which is too high pitched to hear, even if the thermal mass of the coil didn't iron it out easily, which it will. The VTR uses 47Hz, which you should be able to hear, somewhat faster than the normal 33Hz rattle snake. The higher frequency will make it less noticeable, since the thermal mass will filter it more effectively.

And I've only ever noticed it on a genesis. It may be it needs to be a mesh wick too. (If so it could be a magneto-strictive effect, like transformer hum, rather than a heating effect.)

 

[sandman97289]

Hows the battery life on a sigelei 20w at 15watts? With my evic at 11 watts and with a vtc4 I struggle. It takes about 3-4 hours of moderate vaping and I'm already down to 50% battery. At this point I can definitely feel a difference in vape quality. I know they say there is no battery drop off with vv/vw devices but I don't feel that's true.