If they are serious, then I sincerely wish them all the best of luck with that.And Francis Collins promises to make biomedical research less wrong.
NIH Promises To Make Scientific Studies Less Wrong - Forbes
New study on vapor and immune response in mice
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They are--they are dead serious. At least Collins is. There's been so much mischief and prematurely published and completely irreproducible research results lately that even the NIH is ....... It's happening mostly due to financial pressures on researchers to "publish or die." Sad but true.
This is a worldwide phenomenon, BTW--it's happening everywhere.
Yep, this 'publish or perish' pressure leads to that kind of junk science we're confronted with day in and day out. Quantity replaces quality.
Enough scientists and wanna-be's and pretend-to-be out there that have mile long lists of publications in journals, periodicals and so on.
And, sadly enough, a lot of it is garbage. Alphabet soup to fill a few pages with to keep the next round of funding going.
It permeates just about every scientific field.
vaping gets the short end cuz a lot of 'research' is funded by....hmmm... interested parties with agenda of their own. And there's enough scientists who do know which side the bread is buttered on and 'deliver' the desired 'findings'. I bet a leaking CE4 that with enough grant money, I can get a study that the earth is flat...
So you better hold tight onto your favourite mod when walking the edge
^This.
Every single McDonalds french fry is a little packet of free radicals but, i guarantee you, you'll never see those figures/quantities measured (or at least published) in our lifetime.
After my last little stint working at McDs, I will never eat them again -- and if anyone saw the yellow "goo" that drips out of them when they're staged, ready to go into the deepfryer, they'd swear off 'em too.
I'd love the see figures on the free radicals in those things, but you're probably right. I've had a hard time explaining, to my husband, my mom, why hydrogenated fats are lethal; my son helped me understand the chemical nature of hydrogenation, and the resulting free radicals, but it's a rather technical subject that very few will understand, if they can even stay awake for the explanation. I think when most people hear "free radicals" they get some visual image of 60's revolutionaries, on the loose.
Andria
Whenever I eat free radicals, I try to follow it up with some blueberries or kale.
Am I doing it right, or am I deluding myself?
Whenever I eat free radicals, I try to follow it up with some blueberries or kale.
Am I doing it right, or am I deluding myself?
Anything "anti-oxidant" would help to counter the effect of free radicals -- their primary destruction is extreme oxidation.
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http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/whats-new/whatsnew-2015/192-ecig-mice
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Long live the Dr. I didn't find any reference to junk there.Different response.
Quote from the link:
So, what information does this study provide? Very limited I should say. First of all, the conclusions made by the authors are completely irrelevant to the study design and findings. The authors mention: “In conclusion, E-cig exposure results in immunomodulatory effects that are similar to those observed after exposure to cigarette smoke. Since bacterial and viral exacerbations are major drivers of COPD disease progression, this study raises a concern that COPD patients who switch from cigarettes to E-cigs may not observe substantial improvement in their disease progression”. This is irrelevant because they did not assess switching from tobacco to e-cigarette use.
Not such a bright fellow, I have to say.
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I agree, he's another dimwit trying to appear as if he actually knows something. And I think his claim about "immunomodulatory effects" being similar to smoking are pure BS, an outright fabrication if not pure evil lie -- most people around here who've been quit for any length of time find that they seldom if ever get sick -- partly no doubt thanks to better immune systems, absent cigarette smoking, but also because of the antimicrobial effects of PG. I think he just made that up on that spot.
Andria
Please, guys & gals. The "free radical" and "antioxidant" junk has been thoroughly debunked
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030441650900169X
http://junkscience.com/2013/01/09/dna-co-discoverer-antioxidants-cause-cancer/
In particular as related to smoking:
Scientists retract paper because they're "not satisfied with the quality of some of the data" - Retraction Watch at Retraction Watch
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030441650900169X
http://junkscience.com/2013/01/09/dna-co-discoverer-antioxidants-cause-cancer/
In particular as related to smoking:
Scientists retract paper because they're "not satisfied with the quality of some of the data" - Retraction Watch at Retraction Watch
I hope this is true, because I like the taste of free radicals WAY more than I like the taste of anti-oxidants.
You have to understand our point of view, compared to my 3 pack a day habit before my 6 ml a day habit it is super duper safe.
Compared to clean mountain air not so good.
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It's FAR better for me than "clean mountain air"... at any altitude over about 3500-4000 ft, I can't breathe at all. Denver nearly killed me, and I didn't even have asthma then. Would hate to think how bad it would be for me now.
Even compared to my former 1 pk a day, though, vaping is FAR better -- no CO, no carcinogens, no "tar".
Andria
Mountain air may contain VOCs and ozone which are known to cause cancer and other respiratory harm. Just sayin'...
If it can keep busybodies from approaching me, I'd say it's the super duper safest thing for both of us.
There is a group of scientists who did the study.Not a single individual.I was referring to Somebody who better go back to threading catheters or assisting in doing that.
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