Thats really interesting. If it is the filler, maybe I'll try a Kanger instead of these Boges. I like those cartos as well and their wicking material is different. I don't know what it is but it seems more like a sponge.
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Thats really interesting. If it is the filler, maybe I'll try a Kanger instead of these Boges. I like those cartos as well and their wicking material is different. I don't know what it is but it seems more like a sponge.
Success, (so far)!
I went a little nuts... I didn't have any SS Kangers, so I punched about 6-8 holes (didn't count) in a Boge. 3-4 in a ring about 2/3 the way up the carto, and 3-4 in a ring 1/3 up the carto. It does look like it was hit with birdshot, lol, but it's working. Actually, I didn't even prime it. I just shoved it in dry behind the old one and pulled dry hits on it watching for bubbles. It's odd, but only about three of the holes will "bubble", but doing so I filled the carto FROM the tank reservoir till it was soaked. Then I vaped it. Nice thick dense clouds full of flavor. I just hope it keeps it up.
So, uh.... yea. This isn't normal, right? I'm I just weird? Any Ideas? Lol... I need to take a pic because this "birdshoot" look just looks crazy.
I went a little nuts... I didn't have any SS Kangers, so I punched about 6-8 holes (didn't count) in a Boge. 3-4 in a ring about 2/3 the way up the carto, and 3-4 in a ring 1/3 up the carto. It does look like it was hit with birdshot, lol, but it's working. Actually, I didn't even prime it. I just shoved it in dry behind the old one and pulled dry hits on it watching for bubbles. It's odd, but only about three of the holes will "bubble", but doing so I filled the carto FROM the tank reservoir till it was soaked. Then I vaped it. Nice thick dense clouds full of flavor. I just hope it keeps it up.
So, uh.... yea. This isn't normal, right? I'm I just weird? Any Ideas? Lol... I need to take a pic because this "birdshoot" look just looks crazy.
Hello, been watching this thread for a while and I see all the advise and all of them are great and work. You seem to still be having some problems. Like me it could me a bad set of cartos, I did and added to the frustration. Another reason that you might not be seeing the clouds of vapor and you want, and believe me it is very important to me also, is that it maybe be the juice. From what Ive learned here is that PG facilitates the flavor and throat hit and what is responsible for the vapor is the VG. So maybe you need to step up the vg a bit. I use 50/50 blends and I really love it. Im not into the TH so it might be for you so you can keep the ratio a bit higher on the PG, maybe 60pg and 40 VG? One thing that I do to keep the carto moist is to occasionally tap the tank on side of my hand to get the juice really in there, when I do this I can see the bubble start to pop out sometimes a lot and sometimes just tiny almost micro bubbles. I believe this is the air that is trapped inside the filler and depending how densely it is packed this helps get smoother vaping with out that airy feel. I hope this helps, again these are recommendations I have come with in my very short experience in tanks. I had a lot of problems, but now that it is going , I love it.
I just noticed you have had better luck lately. I also did similar holes in mine at first. I had 3 holes on bottom, and 2 on top and was thrilled when it finally got going. Word of caution, after using it a few hours, it started getting gurgling and then I got juice in my mouth and then flooding. I think this was because it FINALLY got thoroughly soaked and I was getting too much juice every time I pulled on carto to get a vape. I believe that there were quite a few cartos going around that were packed too tightly and they took an extraordinary time to really soak. What I do when I put a new one in is I take a good look down the center to make sure it is clean of either too much filler or if I used it before and cleaned it that it doesnt have gunk in it. I use the condom method to fill and I actually take a syringe and drip into the punched holes and slowly watch as it gets soaked in. I do this on every hole( I use 2 on bottom and one on top) and add juice drop by drop till it no longer gets sucked in. This has helped me so much. Than I put the carto end by end in the condom to get some around the top and slip it it. I fill my tank and clean the excess and blow out excess juice from center, give it a few whacks on my hand gently and watch for more bubbles to escape and then attach it to battery and enjoy. I have had dryness even if I do a reg fill with condom even after hours of letting it sit and get dry hits. Thats why I do the dripping directly into the holes on cartos and do the tapping to get those really finicky extra tightly packed cartos to behave. Good luck and you WILL get the best of those stubborn cartos. I really still like the boges, but I think they need to re evaluate the production method and go easy on the packing. Sorry for the essay, but Ive taken a lot of time studying these cartos and getting the better of them. Im stubborn and dont like to be beaten by cartos.
I just noticed you have had better luck lately. I also did similar holes in mine at first. I had 3 holes on bottom, and 2 on top and was thrilled when it finally got going. Word of caution, after using it a few hours, it started getting gurgling and then I got juice in my mouth and then flooding. I think this was because it FINALLY got thoroughly soaked and I was getting too much juice every time I pulled on carto to get a vape. I believe that there were quite a few cartos going around that were packed too tightly and they took an extraordinary time to really soak. What I do when I put a new one in is I take a good look down the center to make sure it is clean of either too much filler or if I used it before and cleaned it that it doesnt have gunk in it. I use the condom method to fill and I actually take a syringe and drip into the punched holes and slowly watch as it gets soaked in. I do this on every hole( I use 2 on bottom and one on top) and add juice drop by drop till it no longer gets sucked in. This has helped me so much. Than I put the carto end by end in the condom to get some around the top and slip it it. I fill my tank and clean the excess and blow out excess juice from center, give it a few whacks on my hand gently and watch for more bubbles to escape and then attach it to battery and enjoy. I have had dryness even if I do a reg fill with condom even after hours of letting it sit and get dry hits. Thats why I do the dripping directly into the holes on cartos and do the tapping to get those really finicky extra tightly packed cartos to behave. Good luck and you WILL get the best of those stubborn cartos. I really still like the boges, but I think they need to re evaluate the production method and go easy on the packing. Sorry for the essay, but Ive taken a lot of time studying these cartos and getting the better of them. Im stubborn and dont like to be beaten by cartos.
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Thanks a bunch. Good point about the juice. I actually thought of that and I've tried both PG and VG without much difference in my case. Both seem to not wick into the carto. I haven't tried the "tap on hand" method but I will next time I pick it up. I have tried a little shake though. I can't seem to get a bubble unless I suck on it really hard without firing. I haven't tired the syringe either. That's a novel idea. I don't have a syringe but I'll see if I can get my hands on one.
I agree, something is up with the Boges. I know I too a year off from vaping but I remember them being awesome. They just haven't been reliable or consistent this time around. 2 out of 5 are DOA, and each batch's filler looks backed differently. Some is loose and fluffy, and some is like a brick. These look normal, but they could be weird. I've noticed when I do get bubbles its out of the top holes. The bottom don't seem to want to do anything. It could be its packed tighter at the bottom.
I think I'm going to get some Kangers on the way too me. The old ones I had always performed well. Just as good as the Boges but different in some way I can't even describe. I always sort of leaned toward the Boges but my recent orders have not been what I remembered.
I also think I need a better punch. I've gotten better with it, but this saddle punch form BDV doesn't seem to want to put a very big hole in them, even if I really tighten it down.
Update:
Its still running dry.
The only way it seems to feed is if I draw really really hard on it. Then I can get a few bubbles. Regular vaping draws don't seem to do it. Maybe my cartos are a bad batch and are too tightly packed with filler. I don't know.
Its still running dry.
The only way it seems to feed is if I draw really really hard on it. Then I can get a few bubbles. Regular vaping draws don't seem to do it. Maybe my cartos are a bad batch and are too tightly packed with filler. I don't know.
As far as punches go, the one I have make nice big holes, its siam mods carto punch. I know that the saddle valves are used alot. Valley vapes sells one that is very nice and really inexpensive and he has a link to the replacement screws. I notice that mine is starting to get dull a bit.
http://phiniac.com/pid-832/carto-punch.htmlsiam mod punch
Cartomizer Punch valley vapes punch
Here is something you might look into, its a drip tip that is made for glass tips. It is tighter, so I think it has less airy draws, and I feel I get a tighter pull which helps to keep the juice going. I dont have the glass tip I just use the adapter and I think it looks great.
Murano Stainless Steel Adapter - Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks
BTW, what tank are you using, I know you mentioned that you used to use a DCT?
Have you checked your o-rings? I messed up my o-rings when I was just starting out as I was frustrated and shoving the carto in. I noticed it was nicked and when I replace the oring on one side things seemed to work better.
http://phiniac.com/pid-832/carto-punch.htmlsiam mod punch
Cartomizer Punch valley vapes punch
Here is something you might look into, its a drip tip that is made for glass tips. It is tighter, so I think it has less airy draws, and I feel I get a tighter pull which helps to keep the juice going. I dont have the glass tip I just use the adapter and I think it looks great.
Murano Stainless Steel Adapter - Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks
BTW, what tank are you using, I know you mentioned that you used to use a DCT?
Have you checked your o-rings? I messed up my o-rings when I was just starting out as I was frustrated and shoving the carto in. I noticed it was nicked and when I replace the oring on one side things seemed to work better.
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The Kanger cartos should work as well as Boge's.
I just got an IKV Gold V2 carto from a vaping buddy, and will be trying that in a tank tomorrow, when it's time to change cartos in my tanks.
I always fill my cartos before filling my tanks. I always use a needle/syringe when filling my cartos. I've done it using the condom fill, the dripdripdrip method also. To me, I prefer the needle/syringe method. It seems to get the job done better and faster.
How to fill a cartomizer with a syringe:
"All you have to do is take the dropper part of the bottle off your juice and fill your syringe with 2ml for a new carto. Take the rubber tip off the carto and carefully insert the needle down the side pushing against the metal. DO NOT go thru the filler because it will move it and you could potentially break a connection and your carto. Slide the needle down the side and go all the way to the bottom. Then slowly start dispensing some juice. Dont dispense it all bc then it won't be evenly distributed. Put alittle in, then take it out and insert the needle in a different spot. I normally do it in 3 spots (in a triangle) I found it distributes the best, but you could just do it in 2, on opposite sides. Make sure the needle is at the bOttom bc then you will not have to wait at all for it to settle. Disperse slowly and you will begin to see the toP of the filler become slushy. It is full then, don't put more. While your filling hold a napkin or something under the carto bc if you do it too fast a few drops will come out the battery end. If that happens its only bc you did it too fast and the poly fill didn't absorb quick enough.( that happens to me bc I am impatient and fill it in about 10 sec, so I just hold a paper towel or napkin underneath.)
It does not really matter what gauge needle you use, but I use an 18 gauge needle, and a 3 cc syringe (just to give you an idea) You can buy needles and syringes CHEAP at places like Co-ops, Tractor Supply, Rural King.
The reason I'm posting this is because I really think you aren't getting that carto wet to start with.
I just got an IKV Gold V2 carto from a vaping buddy, and will be trying that in a tank tomorrow, when it's time to change cartos in my tanks.
I always fill my cartos before filling my tanks. I always use a needle/syringe when filling my cartos. I've done it using the condom fill, the dripdripdrip method also. To me, I prefer the needle/syringe method. It seems to get the job done better and faster.
How to fill a cartomizer with a syringe:
"All you have to do is take the dropper part of the bottle off your juice and fill your syringe with 2ml for a new carto. Take the rubber tip off the carto and carefully insert the needle down the side pushing against the metal. DO NOT go thru the filler because it will move it and you could potentially break a connection and your carto. Slide the needle down the side and go all the way to the bottom. Then slowly start dispensing some juice. Dont dispense it all bc then it won't be evenly distributed. Put alittle in, then take it out and insert the needle in a different spot. I normally do it in 3 spots (in a triangle) I found it distributes the best, but you could just do it in 2, on opposite sides. Make sure the needle is at the bOttom bc then you will not have to wait at all for it to settle. Disperse slowly and you will begin to see the toP of the filler become slushy. It is full then, don't put more. While your filling hold a napkin or something under the carto bc if you do it too fast a few drops will come out the battery end. If that happens its only bc you did it too fast and the poly fill didn't absorb quick enough.( that happens to me bc I am impatient and fill it in about 10 sec, so I just hold a paper towel or napkin underneath.)
It does not really matter what gauge needle you use, but I use an 18 gauge needle, and a 3 cc syringe (just to give you an idea) You can buy needles and syringes CHEAP at places like Co-ops, Tractor Supply, Rural King.
The reason I'm posting this is because I really think you aren't getting that carto wet to start with.
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Thanks for the link. That punch looks nice. And I love the idea of the drip tip. That actually makes a lot of sense. Reduce the diameter of the airflow and increase the vacuum. Good thinking.
I had a DCT but wasn't to in love with the smoketech stuff or the quality of the tank. What I am using now is a Cartomator. Its new and I picked up one of those carto-tools from BDV. I think its called a "slap yo mama" or something like that. It works great for slipping in a new carto, so I don't think I've done anything to the o-rings, but thanks for the idea all the same. That's what I'm looking for
Thanks for the tutorial! Sounds a lot better than my drip-drip method. Takes a while to wait for it to fill. Still, I count my drops and always put about 20-25 in one, depending on how big the drops are (thick vs thin juice). I look for that slushy look too. Still, could be its not really saturated...
I've actually gone back to some old Bloog cartos I had lying around because these Boges I have are acting weird. Out of every box, at least two have been DOA, and I've had at least two over the past week vape fine for about an hour or two then just bite the dust. I've also had a couple that wouldn't soak up juice at all... it just sits there in little beads on top. When I look closely it's packed crazy tight, like a solid white cake. I don't get it, because a year ago when I tried vaping the first time, Boges were a dream. And the old boxes I had when I started up this time worked like a charm, but all the new ones I've ordered are a bit off even when they're working for me. I think something is up at the Boge factory. I don't know, but I've started using these old Bloog Kangers until I can get some new Kangers in. Then I'm going on a hunt for a new fav carto. ... I've heard good things about IKV's stuff, so I'm going to go there first.
Anyway, to summarize, I'm starting to suspect all my issues with this tank have been related to these cartos I have on hand. Is this just a witch hunt I'm doing, or does it sound like I'm on to something?
I have noticed that there are two very different batches of boges going around, they are both made by Boge. Because of the high demand for their cartos they have more than one manufacturing locations. There are two different "styles" #1 is the classic packaging, the long condom with the shorter one and with the little plastic stopper thing in the end with threads. The #2 has two condoms that are equal shorter lengths and no stopper and the condoms are looser. I got my initial cartos with my kit and they were the #1s. They wicked easliy and lasted long and had no problems. I placed an order from a vendor and I noticed they were different, they were the #2's thought at first maybe they werent genuine, but I used them. THey were very inconsistant, extremely tightly packed filler, took forever to wick and get soaked, some were DOA and some just burned out in a couple puffs. I went to a local store and the boges they sell are the usual #1s, they wick fast, they taste great, and last for quite a few uses and cleanings etc. From now on if I order Im going to order from sites that have the #1 style, even if I have to pay a bit more or have to email the vendor or call them to see how the ones they sell are packaged. Im waiting on an order right now and Im crossing my fingers they are the good ones. Unfortunately the vendors have no way of knowing this and as they order from manufacturers they've been ordering from for years. Hopefully they notice what I have and contact the manufacturer and let them know.
Very interesting... Mine both have "short caps" as well, both caps the same size. This has really been an odd experience. When I tried vaping the first time, I gave it a shot for about 6 months. During that time I can only remember a handful of times (maybe 3) when a Boge carto was DOA. Now I've had on average probably 1.5 out of every box. The most I had was 3 DOA in one box, while a couple boxes of these "#2s" have had no DOA. I could live with getting fewer than I paid for if the ones that weren't DOA were like I remember, but instead I've had a lot of odd flavor, wick, and performance issues.
...at least I'm not the only one who has noticed this.
I'm having the same problem with my Boge cartos. I'm about to just give up on them. I ordered 20 of them, and I would say half or more just won't wick in the tank. No matter what juice or how many holes. The 2.2ohm ones are especially bad. Anybody got something else I can try? I don't care if it's a rebuildable, a CE2 that ACTUALLY works, or just different cartos, but I need something! It's so much worse when I want my nicotine, but I know that if I vape, it's just going to be really unsatisfying.
I've switched to the Kangers. They are the same ones used on the Volt/Bloog/Etc, just not branded. It's like vaping heaven after fighting with those Boges so long. Its a slightly different vape, but just as good as the Boges used to be in my opinion. Someone on the ECF linked me here for a great price. However, I ordered from the guys at Avid Vaper because they also have them in a 510 connection as well as the KR808D and they also have a great deal on 306 atty combos.
edit: I've also been hearing that the cartos at IKV are as good or better than the Boges, but I haven't tried them yet.
I got hold of an IKV Gold V2 carto and tried it on a Phiniac tank just the other day. The carto looks to be the same diameter as a Boge, but when I put the Gold V2 in the tank and added juice to it, it leaked big time between the carto and the tank. So that one's a no go in Phiniac tanks. The other carto that I heard would work was the IKV mega platinum. Has anyone tried that one in a tank yet?
I have always used cartos, and Boge was the best around, until I started having more and more problems with
consistent performance. I moved on to DC cartos when they came out, and things were good for a while.
Then I started noticing flavor problems. One carto would taste fine and last a couple weeks before dropping
off, and then the next would only last a few days before flavor and performance would drop off. It seems the
"hand made" factor is the problem, and as production has ramped up to meet our needs, it has only gotten
worse. I guess the bottom line is, cartos are great, but they are not 100% effective. Any vaping setup will
require some kind of fiddling to get consistent performance.
After fiddling with tanks for a while, I noticed the following things.
- A combination of surface tension ( at the holes ) and a slight vacuum in the tank ( air can only get in
through the holes that fluid is trying to get out ), is what keeps the tank from just draining out through the
holes. Hence the need for a couple of hard pulls periodically to allow more juice into carto. I have noticed that
a quick hard pull with a quick release ( kind of like smacking your lips ) works better than just a long hard pull.
- The top of the carto tends to stay dry, IMO if you top off the top of carto it effects how well air can get back
into the tank. I have noticed more gurgling and flooding if I top off top of carto.
- Environment can effect how well a tank works, if I am inside with a/c and I go out into 100 degree weather,
my tanks usually flood. The only way to prevent this is to put tank in my pocket upside down until juice warms
up to ambient temp and pressure equalizes in tank.
- If the filler in a carto is denser, then punching a carto compacts the filler at that point, making it harder for air
to get back into the tank. I would take a thin tool and try to work ( loosen ) the filler around the hole.
For what it's worth, here is what I have found to work pretty well ( consistently ) for me.
- A tank that is snug on the carto but not real tight. I have one tank that is very tight and I constantly
have to do dry pulls and it still vapes a little dry.
- I prefer the smoktech cartos that are factory punched over punching my own, for reason as stated above.
A lot of vendors now offer the smoketechs in single and dual coil with 1, 2, or 3 holes. The flavor may not be
"quite" as good as a Boge or others, but I can "usually" counter this with double flavor in my juices.
( I say "usually", because some flavors don't taste better when stronger )
- I use the cartos with 2 or 3 holes and then I enlarge the 2 opposing holes by using a tool with a sharp
point. I put the tool in at an angle and then rotate the tool to make the hole just a little wider. If you are
too aggressive when doing this you may raise an edge around the hole that would tear up your inner
o-ring. You can use needle nose pliers to flatten any edges.
- I am a big fan of the "slap yo mama" filling tool. It provides a tapered surface to prevent damage to
inner o-ring when sliding carto into tank. It allows you to completely fill tank versus tilting tank to use
syringe or needle nosed bottle. It allows you to replace carto without emptying tank.
- When I put in a new carto, there are a lot of bubbles at first, when these stop I do a couple dry pulls
and let the tank "soak" for about 15 minutes. When I put the tank on my PV, I do couple more pulls,
I can tell it is ready if the pull feels a little "moist" ( not to the point of gurgling ). Then I top off the
tank and I am good for a whole day of vaping.
I use a 70/30 PG/VG mix, if you use a thinner or thicker mix you will want to vary the number of holes
and whether you enlarge them or not.
The last and most important thing to consider is this, you WILL have to experiment. There are too many
variables for every setup to work the same. Different vendors sell juices that are ( well ) different. One
vendor may use flavors that are mostly alcohol based, this will make for a thinner juice even though
the PG/VG ratio will be listed as the same as another vendor. Cartos are definitely different from brand
to brand and you will get some duds. Even PV's are different. I have 2 PV's that are both essentially
the same mechanical wise, but one uses all copper contacts and therefore runs just a little "hotter"
even though they use the same battery, because it has better conductivity.
I hope this helps.
consistent performance. I moved on to DC cartos when they came out, and things were good for a while.
Then I started noticing flavor problems. One carto would taste fine and last a couple weeks before dropping
off, and then the next would only last a few days before flavor and performance would drop off. It seems the
"hand made" factor is the problem, and as production has ramped up to meet our needs, it has only gotten
worse. I guess the bottom line is, cartos are great, but they are not 100% effective. Any vaping setup will
require some kind of fiddling to get consistent performance.
After fiddling with tanks for a while, I noticed the following things.
- A combination of surface tension ( at the holes ) and a slight vacuum in the tank ( air can only get in
through the holes that fluid is trying to get out ), is what keeps the tank from just draining out through the
holes. Hence the need for a couple of hard pulls periodically to allow more juice into carto. I have noticed that
a quick hard pull with a quick release ( kind of like smacking your lips ) works better than just a long hard pull.
- The top of the carto tends to stay dry, IMO if you top off the top of carto it effects how well air can get back
into the tank. I have noticed more gurgling and flooding if I top off top of carto.
- Environment can effect how well a tank works, if I am inside with a/c and I go out into 100 degree weather,
my tanks usually flood. The only way to prevent this is to put tank in my pocket upside down until juice warms
up to ambient temp and pressure equalizes in tank.
- If the filler in a carto is denser, then punching a carto compacts the filler at that point, making it harder for air
to get back into the tank. I would take a thin tool and try to work ( loosen ) the filler around the hole.
For what it's worth, here is what I have found to work pretty well ( consistently ) for me.
- A tank that is snug on the carto but not real tight. I have one tank that is very tight and I constantly
have to do dry pulls and it still vapes a little dry.
- I prefer the smoktech cartos that are factory punched over punching my own, for reason as stated above.
A lot of vendors now offer the smoketechs in single and dual coil with 1, 2, or 3 holes. The flavor may not be
"quite" as good as a Boge or others, but I can "usually" counter this with double flavor in my juices.
( I say "usually", because some flavors don't taste better when stronger )
- I use the cartos with 2 or 3 holes and then I enlarge the 2 opposing holes by using a tool with a sharp
point. I put the tool in at an angle and then rotate the tool to make the hole just a little wider. If you are
too aggressive when doing this you may raise an edge around the hole that would tear up your inner
o-ring. You can use needle nose pliers to flatten any edges.
- I am a big fan of the "slap yo mama" filling tool. It provides a tapered surface to prevent damage to
inner o-ring when sliding carto into tank. It allows you to completely fill tank versus tilting tank to use
syringe or needle nosed bottle. It allows you to replace carto without emptying tank.
- When I put in a new carto, there are a lot of bubbles at first, when these stop I do a couple dry pulls
and let the tank "soak" for about 15 minutes. When I put the tank on my PV, I do couple more pulls,
I can tell it is ready if the pull feels a little "moist" ( not to the point of gurgling ). Then I top off the
tank and I am good for a whole day of vaping.
I use a 70/30 PG/VG mix, if you use a thinner or thicker mix you will want to vary the number of holes
and whether you enlarge them or not.
The last and most important thing to consider is this, you WILL have to experiment. There are too many
variables for every setup to work the same. Different vendors sell juices that are ( well ) different. One
vendor may use flavors that are mostly alcohol based, this will make for a thinner juice even though
the PG/VG ratio will be listed as the same as another vendor. Cartos are definitely different from brand
to brand and you will get some duds. Even PV's are different. I have 2 PV's that are both essentially
the same mechanical wise, but one uses all copper contacts and therefore runs just a little "hotter"
even though they use the same battery, because it has better conductivity.
I hope this helps.
Have you tried it in another tank? Just curious. How did it vape aside from the tank issue?
I just got my SS Kangers in and they fit perfectly in the Cartomator, although they are almost too short. It's not bad and they don't leak, but the top is just a hair under the top of the tank (0.5-1mm). No problems getting a drip tip in though. So far its vaping like a dream in the tank. No dry hits, no wicking issues, nothing. I'll see how they do over time, but so far they are a major win.
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By the way, Kay, I just saw your avatar wink at me and it totally freaked my out for a moment! Don't know how I never noticed that before.
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Oh yea... Kay, I got some syringes in with my order and tried your carto filling method. Worked great! Thanks so much! ... I also injected into the holes as anavidfan suggested too.
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I see you have found something that is working for you, SUPER!
I have found that you really need to pay attention to the ohms with these carto tanks. I use the 2.5ml DCT's and they come with 1.5ohm single punched cartos where I buy them from. First off I always pull out the carto and grab my trusty screw and hammer and give that hole a good smack. Then I fill the carto like you would without a tank, slip it in the tank and fill that, quickly pop it past the hole, give a few try tugs and let it sit for 15 minutes minimum.
This 1.5ohm dual coil setup I use on eGo style batteries and it vapes like a dream. Anything above that 1.5ohms however, gives me that airy wuss vapor you are talking about and just irritates me. 2ohms for me just went right in the trash...until I built a VV box and now I just up the voltage to use those.
Ron -
I have found that you really need to pay attention to the ohms with these carto tanks. I use the 2.5ml DCT's and they come with 1.5ohm single punched cartos where I buy them from. First off I always pull out the carto and grab my trusty screw and hammer and give that hole a good smack. Then I fill the carto like you would without a tank, slip it in the tank and fill that, quickly pop it past the hole, give a few try tugs and let it sit for 15 minutes minimum.
This 1.5ohm dual coil setup I use on eGo style batteries and it vapes like a dream. Anything above that 1.5ohms however, gives me that airy wuss vapor you are talking about and just irritates me. 2ohms for me just went right in the trash...until I built a VV box and now I just up the voltage to use those.
Ron -
Since I only have Phiniac tanks, I wasen't able to try it in any other tanks, but since it didn't work in a Phiniac (which is the TIGHTEST tank setup, from all that I've heard) I doubt it would work in any others....but that's just conjecture on my part.
How did it vape aside from the leaking issue? Well, it was leaking soo bad I wasen't able to vape it AT ALL using the tank. I quickly got a syringe and sucked up what liquid I could to keep it from running down the side of my beloved Provari!
I did, however, got ahead and vape it after pulling it from the tank, and I have to say that to ME, there was alittle more flavor intensity, but not enough to warrent getting more. Maybe I'll give the Kangers a try next, since they fit a tank. I personally have no problems with the Boges, just interested in seeing if there's anything else 'out there' that tastes any better.
My avatar winked at you??
Really?? And what have YOU been vapin?No, my dear friend and computer wizard, ECF mod jOker did that for me....so if you have any complaints, talk to HIM!
Glad the syringe method worked well for you! I prefer it myself over the other methods, less messy IMHO. I also use the syringe when refilling my Phiniac tanks. What I do is, take a butter knife and using the broad side of the butterknife, press down on the bottom of the carto (where the threads are) this gets it out of the tank enough to put my fingers on the other side where the drip tip is, and pull it out enough so I can put my syringe with needle in and fill the tank from the bottom side. I think it works better this way for me because the carto is wet on the bottom side, so it slides alittle better than the top side of the carto.
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