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[wv2win]

I would definitely move up to a better battery unit as sailorman suggested. I would skip any of the "eGo's" because they are only 3.4 volts where as the Kgo and E-Power are both 3.7 volts. And ditch those 5 second cut-off auto batteries - they are a pain and not worth the trouble. Get manual batteries for sure.

But you might want to consider the new 5 volt E-Power or a some of the other good 5 volt models like the GLV2 from Great Lakes Vapor. You will get warmer vapor with a 5 volt model. You might want to add some VG to your eliquid to even out the throat hit. Here is a good supplier of both the 3.7 volt and 5 volt E-Power:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - EGO E-Power

 

[sailorman]

Don't know, never had a kGo.

I like the eGo because it's a closer second (IMHO) to direct dripping than polyfilled-anything. No "burn in" required, just drop a drip on a clean atomizer, snap and twist. The only fiddling it requires of me is a cleaning when swapping flavors. It holds ~1ml, so three cones get me through the day. It seems to keep fairly constant power, and lets me know when the battery is just about due. My only issue with it is that it doesn't do as well with heavy VG juices like Boba's Bounty. In that case, I can just screw on a 510 atty and drip tip and I'm set, 3.7V works great with LR atomizers if you like a warm vape.

It sounds like the eGo is a kGo with a cartridge. They sound like they're from the same company, maybe my eGo is a clone?

In reality, they're all clones of the original eGo by Joyetech. So, the C is just adapted to use specially made cone shaped tanks and attys then? I keep hearing people saying they have this or that problem with tanks and cartridges in eGo C and T models. And I have to wonder, what's so great that they put up with having to use special attys in the first place. But I guess if they'll take standard cartos and attys, then you could always just revert to a normal 510 situation. You just have the cone situation to get around. I know they have shorter cones and cones with larger holes for clearomizers, etc.

I picked up a couple of Firefly batteries on sale just because they were only $9. They're basically 900mah eGos with a cone but no tanks or cartridges or any of that kind of stuff. I like them sometimes with a normal clearomizer, but at the end of the day, they're just a pretty battery with a 510 connector and a battery indicator. Oh, and a LED flashlight in the rear.

 

[Chris77]

Ah, I suppose the eGo-C is a 3.4V, not 3.7V.

In reality, they're all clones of the original eGo by Joyetech. So, the C is just adapted to use specially made cone shaped tanks and attys then? I keep hearing people saying they have this or that problem with tanks and cartridges in eGo C and T models. And I have to wonder, what's so great that they put up with having to use special attys in the first place. But I guess if they'll take standard cartos and attys, then you could always just revert to a normal 510 situation. You just have the cone situation to get around. I know they have shorter cones and cones with larger holes for clearomizers, etc.

I picked up a couple of Firefly batteries on sale just because they were only $9. They're basically 900mah eGos with a cone but no tanks or cartridges or any of that kind of stuff. I like them sometimes with a normal clearomizer, but at the end of the day, they're just a pretty battery with a 510 connector and a battery indicator. Oh, and a LED flashlight in the rear.

Apparently so. I've read much about issues with the eGo-T (leaking!), but the eGo-C seems to have fewer complaints on the whole. I like it, I haven't had any problems with- I'm on round three with some of their plastic cartridges, and no leaking yet. I haven't tried (or yet researched) clearomizers, so can't make a comparison there.

So one would essentially need something like this (Joye eGo-C Upgrade Kit) to use the eGo cartridge system. Pricey, they getcha with those atomizers!

Your call, OP! Not trying to hijack or get sidetracked here There are so many devices, gadgets and liquids out there- I'm tinkering constantly to find the best combinations of all.

 

[MMA1985]

I would definitely move up to a better battery unit as sailorman suggested. I would skip any of the "eGo's" because they are only 3.4 volts where as the Kgo and E-Power are both 3.7 volts. And ditch those 5 second cut-off auto batteries - they are a pain and not worth the trouble. Get manual batteries for sure.

But you might want to consider the new 5 volt E-Power or a some of the other good 5 volt models like the GLV2 from Great Lakes Vapor. You will get warmer vapor with a 5 volt model. You might want to add some VG to your eliquid to even out the throat hit. Here is a good supplier of both the 3.7 volt and 5 volt E-Power:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - EGO E-Power

Thanks a lot wv2win, sailorman and everyone else for the advice! I am interested in ordering the 5 volt E-power from liberty-flights as wv2win recommended, not sure if I should get the liquid from their too though?. The only thing I am worried about is first, I am not familiar with this type of PV so I am not sure if it will be very difficult to use, and I am embarrassed to say I don't know exactly what dripping is but isn't that where you have to continuously drip liquid on the atomizer in order to use it? Because it just seems that will be a hassle if I have to do that while busy with other things. And second, I want to make sure my order is complete enough so I can start using it without any problems. So would anybody let me know what would be necessary to order along with it as in accessories, although I will be getting a kit so it should have most if not all things covered.

Thanks

 

[MMA1985]

You were saying that what you have gives you a harsh hit. The VG smooths that out, kinda makes the vapor "thicker". Can't really explain it any differently, you just have to see for yourself.

Ya I will definitely order some higher VG liquid as soon as I order a new PV and see what I like better. In that case would it be easier to handle a higher nic amount with a higher VG based liquid?

 

[mynameisrob]

I would def get an E-Power or kGo over any of the eGos. If you did get an eGo, while it would be an upgrade in battery life, it would also actually be a downgrade voltage wise, since the Volt is 3.7V and the eGo is only 3.3-3.4V.
I have an E-Power and love it. Like mentioned it uses non-proprietary batteries which cost $4-5 compared to eGo/kGo/Riva batteries that cost $14-20, amd the E-power batteries last longer before they need to be replaced. The batteries are 1050mah and I get on avg a day to a day and a half on one battery. Also everything is replaceable on the E-Power so its cheap to maintain, and you dont have to buy a whole new unit everytime you need to replace a battery or a switch fails.
The kGo is also a nice PV too, even though it uses proprietary batteries. The batteries are 1100mah so they last along time as well and most people can get a full day from one battery.

I think youd be really happy with either an E-Power or kGo, and personally I think their both def better than an eGo. The 3.7V PVs provide alittle more "oomph" than an eGo, and more importantly handle the lower resistance atty and cartos a lot better. Plus their the same price, if not cheaper than the eGo.
Sweet-vapes.com has a really good deal for the E-Power and you can get a carto kit with your choice of cartos for only $41.95.
Hoosier Ecig Supply, DarkCity Vapor,and Sweet-vapes all sell the kGo kit for around $43, which is a good deal as well.

 

[MMA1985]

OP, just wanted to address your comment about the 18mg juice being hard to handle.

I think most people here will agree that PG dries your throat, and when you first start vaping, it can be a bit much but it does get better. Drinking water while you adjust to it helps alot.

Also, 18mg juice, while it sounds high, and may very well feel high at the moment, isn't what I'd call a strong juice.

I started on 12mg thinking that was the right level before I'd tried it. I also got some 18mg prefilled cartos just in case.
I was ok on the 12mg cartos, but I was going through them too quickly and chain vaping. I tried the 18mg cartos and was like OMG...way too strong. The extra nic made the dry throat much worse.

What I did to help it was...you guessed it....I drank lots of water, and before long my throat was better able to deal with the stronger juice and when I realised I needed much stronger juice (28mg), the difference was very slight compared to the first jump.

All I'm saying is unless you think you're getting super sick from it, just tough it out with the PG for a bit and you'll find it gets much easier. A little like when you first learned to smoke.

Take care

Great thanks, I will definitely drink lots of water while vaping from now on. Other than that I will just have to tough it out and see if I get more used to it. I'm hoping by getting a new decent PV I will be able to get the full experience of what vaping is like. Although I do also realize that there is no easy way to give up smoking, and nothing will ever completely satisfy the feeling a cigarette gives. However a lot of people on here smoked more a day for many years longer than I have and have quit using PVs so it gives me hope!

 

[MMA1985]

I would def get an E-Power or kGo over any of the eGos. If you did get an eGo, while it would be an upgrade in battery life, it would also actually be a downgrade voltage wise, since the Volt is 3.7V and the eGo is only 3.3-3.4V.
I have an E-Power and love it. Like mentioned it uses non-proprietary batteries which cost $4-5 compared to eGo/kGo/Riva batteries that cost $14-20, amd the E-power batteries last longer before they need to be replaced. The batteries are 1050mah and I get on avg a day to a day and a half on one battery. Also everything is replaceable on the E-Power so its cheap to maintain, and you dont have to buy a whole new unit everytime you need to replace a battery or a switch fails.
The kGo is also a nice PV too, even though it uses proprietary batteries. The batteries are 1100mah so they last along time as well and most people can get a full day from one battery.

I think youd be really happy with either an E-Power or kGo, and personally I think their both def better than an eGo. The 3.7V PVs provide alittle more "oomph" than an eGo, and more importantly handle the lower resistance atty and cartos a lot better. Plus their the same price, if not cheaper than the eGo.
Sweet-vapes.com has a really good deal for the E-Power and you can get a carto kit with your choice of cartos for only $41.95.
Hoosier Ecig Supply, DarkCity Vapor,and Sweet-vapes all sell the kGo kit for around $43, which is a good deal as well.

Hi mynameisrob

the separate batteries makes the E-power more attractive to me than the kGo. However I was looking at the ones they sell at liberty-flights. Over there they also sell a 5v E-power model, so not sure on which to get, or how it would affect performance as I am very new to this experience. Although the deal they have at sweet-vapes is good and will consider it.

 

[mynameisrob]

The E-Powers are very easy to use. Some kits come with attys, but that doesnt meean thats all you can use. Get some cartos for it as well.

The eGo E-power is nice, but the only thing I dont like about it is that the switch is not replaceable on it, which is one of the things that made me like the E-power in the first place. It is a nice device though and I think youd def like it.
With the eGo-E-Power you can use a 18650 battery for 3.7V, or 2 16340 batteries for 5V. So its the same device, and you can use different batteries to give you the different voltages.
LibertyFlights sells both kits. if you look at the description of each, they come with the different batteries that I was talking about. The 5V kit will allow you to vape at 5V which is nice, but the downside is that the battery life is a lot less. (650mah compared to 2800mah) So the 3.7V batteries would last over 4x as long.

If it were me, I would prob get the 3.7V kit to start, and they if you want to try 5V you could always just buy a few 16340 batteries later so you could vape at 5V. The batteries are cheap so it wouldnt cost much if you wanted to get them later to try 5V vaping, but thats up to you.
The 5V kit does cost more, but you also get a carto tank with it, a carrying case, and a better charger.

If you do decide to get the 3.7V kit instead of the 5V kit, I would get it from here instead: Ego E-Power Kit
Sweet-vapes sells the 3.7V kit for cheaper than LibertyFlights does, and theirs comes with a case (41.95 instead of 47.99)
They dont sell the 5V kit though, so if you want that get it from LibertyFlights.

Or if you just want the regular E-Power, this is the kit I mentioned in the previous post: 14650 Black Carto Kit
This is the E-Power that I have. Its the 14650 E-Power. This is what mine look like:
I have carto tanks on mine. You can just use regular cartomizers, but you might want to consider getting a carto tank after you get used to using it and you get comfortable with it, bc they allow you to go alot longer without refilling. I fill my tanks in the morning and pop in a fresh battery and I can easily vape all day maintenance free.

Again, I think youd be happy with the regular 14650 E-Power or the eGo-E-Power.

Hope this helps and let me know if you have any questions.

 

[Chris77]

On topic, and a fun post to read: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...advice-what-buy-newcomers-48.html#post2585264

 

[mynameisrob]

The removable batteries is what made me get an E-Power over a kGo originally too. I like that their a lot cheaper so you can buy a few to have as extras and then you never have to worry about not having a charged battery. And also I personally find it much easier to carry a spare battery fore the E-Power. With the proprietary battery PVs like the kGo, eGo, Riva, to carry a spare battery you have no choice but to carry a second PV with you. But with the E-Power, you can just easily bring a spare battery with you and if needed pop it in and your good to go again. Even though the regular E-Power uses smaller 14650 batteries, they are still 1050mah and last a long time. I barely even carry an extra with me anymore unless I know Im not going to get home till late bc a battery gets me through the whole day. If you got the eGo-E-Power, you def wouldnt have to carry a spare unless you vaped pretty much constantly all day bc the 3.7V 18650 batteries are 2800mah which is beastly and youd most likely be able to get 2 days from one battery, maybe even 3. If you get the 5V kit though, like I said, those batteries are only 650mah, so you might have to carry some spares for them. Even with them though, your battery life would be about 4x better than thebattery life on your Volt.

Keep in mind too that the eGo-E-Power is a good bit fatter than the regular E-Power. I dont know if you plan on carrying it with you when your out, but its something to consider. I like the 14650 E-Power bc even with the 3.5ml carto tank on it, I can still very easily carry it in my pocket with me everywhere I go. I think you could def still carry the eGo-E-Power too, but it is bulkier and it might look like your happy to see everyone

 

[MMA1985]

The removable batteries is what made me get an E-Power over a kGo originally too. I like that their a lot cheaper so you can buy a few to have as extras and then you never have to worry about not having a charged battery. And also I personally find it much easier to carry a spare battery fore the E-Power. With the proprietary battery PVs like the kGo, eGo, Riva, to carry a spare battery you have no choice but to carry a second PV with you. But with the E-Power, you can just easily bring a spare battery with you and if needed pop it in and your good to go again. Even though the regular E-Power uses smaller 14650 batteries, they are still 1050mah and last a long time. I barely even carry an extra with me anymore unless I know Im not going to get home till late bc a battery gets me through the whole day. If you got the eGo-E-Power, you def wouldnt have to carry a spare unless you vaped pretty much constantly all day bc the 3.7V 18650 batteries are 2800mah which is beastly and youd most likely be able to get 2 days from one battery, maybe even 3. If you get the 5V kit though, like I said, those batteries are only 650mah, so you might have to carry some spares for them. Even with them though, your battery life would be about 4x better than thebattery life on your Volt.

Keep in mind too that the eGo-E-Power is a good bit fatter than the regular E-Power. I dont know if you plan on carrying it with you when your out, but its something to consider. I like the 14650 E-Power bc even with the 3.5ml carto tank on it, I can still very easily carry it in my pocket with me everywhere I go. I think you could def still carry the eGo-E-Power too, but it is bulkier and it might look like your happy to see everyone

LOL.
Now i'm really confused though because I thought there was only one E-power which was the ego e-power? But your saying that the 14650 E-power is not an ego? Is the only difference in the way it looks or is one superior in quality than the other? And if I am not stuck with 3.7v even if i get that to start then I think the sweet-vapes deal is the way to go. And that way in future I can always get other batteries to upgrade to 5v. Now I just need to decide which one to get as i am assuming there is an ego E-power and a 14650 e-power? Now this is a 3 component PV correct? which means you have a battery, and an atomizer and cartomizer/tank separate as opposed to a Volt type which is the atomizer and cartomizer together. So this means that I have to replace atomizers and cartomizers seperately, but how often? And obviously starting out I am not going to be very good at upkeep so I may go through them quicker than normal but on average how long should each one last? and what would be a good amount to stock up on in the beginning. Okay sorry for so many questions, but one other thing is what is the best type of carts to get because I have no clue what dual coil, and all that other stuff means.


Update: Okay never mind about the first part, I thought they were different systems but it is just the battery size and that they both are 3.7v just one lasts longer than the other. I think that the regular e-power should be fine if it comes with a spare battery

Thanks for your help!

 

[MMA1985]

On topic, and a fun post to read: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...advice-what-buy-newcomers-48.html#post2585264

Thanks! I actually had read that a while back, I think it was the first post I did read when I stumbled upon this site.

 

[mmsjs5]

Ya I will definitely order some higher VG liquid as soon as I order a new PV and see what I like better. In that case would it be easier to handle a higher nic amount with a higher VG based liquid?

I personally think so.

You could get 2 or 3 different strengths, of the same flavor (1 high, 1 low and/or 1 without), then if the stronger is too much, you can mix them to lower the strength. I always get a large bottle (Tasty Vapor) of zero nic to mix with a higher concentration of nic liquid (both the same flavors)

 

[wv2win]

Thanks a lot wv2win, sailorman and everyone else for the advice! I am interested in ordering the 5 volt E-power from liberty-flights as wv2win recommended, not sure if I should get the liquid from their too though?. The only thing I am worried about is first, I am not familiar with this type of PV so I am not sure if it will be very difficult to use, and I am embarrassed to say I don't know exactly what dripping is but isn't that where you have to continuously drip liquid on the atomizer in order to use it? Because it just seems that will be a hassle if I have to do that while busy with other things. And second, I want to make sure my order is complete enough so I can start using it without any problems. So would anybody let me know what would be necessary to order along with it as in accessories, although I will be getting a kit so it should have most if not all things covered.

Thanks

Glad we could be helpful. Since Liberty Flights sells their eliquid in 5ml bottles for around $2.30, I would get a number of them in flavors you think you might like. I know their PG version, Home Counties is a smooth, light tobacco flavor.

I would also get some blank cartomizers in the 2.5 - 3.0 resistence range for your 5 volt E-Power. This will be easier than dripping. I would also pick up a dual coil cartomizer to see if you like them. I use them on my 5 volt PV's consistently.

Good Luck

 

[nansc]

Welcome to the forum and good luck.

 

[MMA1985]

Okay I am still confused over what to get, a kGo or a 14650 e-power. I am thinking 3.7v will be enough for now so either one should be fine. I was set on the e-power but after reading about it having a lot of issues especially with the switches I am now leaning more toward the kGo. After emailing Dayna from Sweet-Vapes, she also confirmed those issues and said in my case a kGo would be more ideal. What do you guys think? Any feedback would be appreciated. The other thing is what should I get along with my order. I heard cartomizers are better, but if I want to try different flavors could I do that using just one atomizer for dripping? The kGo mega dual coil kit at sweet-vapes is a bit more expensive but it comes with a carrying case and 5 mega dual coil cartomizers (1.5 ohms i think) that hold a lot of liquid. I was also planning on ordering some resurrectors from c.c.v since so many people like them. Besides liquid which is a personal preference the only thing I can think of would be cones and drip tips. Are these necessary to order because I don't believe they come with the kit.

Thanks

 

[bruiser]

I thought the switch issues on the newer e-power had been resolved. If you're having doubts, got with the Kgo. The mega dual coil cartos are damn fine. Don't know about the resurrectors, but the big cartos don't require a cone, and one wouldn't fit. Yes, you could use an atomizer on the Kgo to sample liquids. As far as drip tips, I don't know if there is one that will fit on the mega dual coil carto. Not necessary anyway.

 

[Anthonyy207]

Welcome and good luck on your new journey! My wife and I also went with the Volt kits and we love them!

 

[Awalrus]

hey everyone im new here, and pretty much new to to e-cigarettes, ive tried a few pieces of junk like blu and some other terrible models but now im trying to get something that really works for me because I really would like to stop smoking. So right now ive been looking at the Ego t and i really want this or something like this that is also refillable and comes with a strong battery, basically I feel somewhat confused with how many different brands and opinions there are on what to start with. so without burning a hole in my pocket where is the best place to order a ego and does the 1100mah battery vape better then the blu does? i dont really need a starter kit if its cheaper to buy the parts seperately. I just really need to know whats the best deal for someone thats starving through college. lol. i have a feeling there is a lot of information here im sure this has been answered before