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I would definitely move up to a better battery unit as sailorman suggested. I would skip any of the "eGo's" because they are only 3.4 volts where as the Kgo and E-Power are both 3.7 volts. And ditch those 5 second cut-off auto batteries - they are a pain and not worth the trouble. Get manual batteries for sure.

But you might want to consider the new 5 volt E-Power or a some of the other good 5 volt models like the GLV2 from Great Lakes Vapor. You will get warmer vapor with a 5 volt model. You might want to add some VG to your eliquid to even out the throat hit. Here is a good supplier of both the 3.7 volt and 5 volt E-Power:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - EGO E-Power

hey everyone im new here, and pretty much new to to e-cigarettes, ive tried a few pieces of junk like blu and some other terrible models but now im trying to get something that really works for me because I really would like to stop smoking. So right now ive been looking at the Ego t and i really want this or something like this that is also refillable and comes with a strong battery, basically I feel somewhat confused with how many different brands and opinions there are on what to start with. so without burning a hole in my pocket where is the best place to order a ego and does the 1100mah battery vape better then the blu does? i dont really need a starter kit if its cheaper to buy the parts seperately. I just really need to know whats the best deal for someone thats starving through college. lol. i have a feeling there is a lot of information here im sure this has been answered before

If you read this thread, there are some good suggestions. Just about any model will be better than the bottom of the barrel "Blu". I would not waste money on the over-hyped eGo when in the same size and same cost range you can get models with better batteries. E-Power 510, Kgo 510 or Riva 510 are all have better batteries than the eGo. And in the case of the E-Power, the batteries only cost $4 whereas the eGo batteries cost $15+. Why pay more than 3 times as much for lower quality batteries? All of these models are 3.7 volt, 1000+ mAh batteries unlike the much smaller ego standard battery. The E-Power even comes in a 5 volt version, now. Here are some well supported suppliers:

KGO kit 1100mAh by SLB

Crystal Clear Vaping

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Okay I am still confused over what to get, a kGo or a 14650 e-power. I am thinking 3.7v will be enough for now so either one should be fine. I was set on the e-power but after reading about it having a lot of issues especially with the switches I am now leaning more toward the kGo. After emailing Dayna from Sweet-Vapes, she also confirmed those issues and said in my case a kGo would be more ideal. What do you guys think? Any feedback would be appreciated. The other thing is what should I get along with my order. I heard cartomizers are better, but if I want to try different flavors could I do that using just one atomizer for dripping? The kGo mega dual coil kit at sweet-vapes is a bit more expensive but it comes with a carrying case and 5 mega dual coil cartomizers (1.5 ohms i think) that hold a lot of liquid. I was also planning on ordering some resurrectors from c.c.v since so many people like them. Besides liquid which is a personal preference the only thing I can think of would be cones and drip tips. Are these necessary to order because I don't believe they come with the kit.

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The Kgo is a fine option. But the switch problem with the earlier versions of the E-Power have been resolved from all that I have read.
 

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Welcome and good luck on your new journey! My wife and I also went with the Volt kits and we love them!

Thanks, I am glad to be a part of the forum otherwise I would have probably given up trying to find the best PV for me. I'm really glad you like your volt! Whatever can get me to quit regular cigarettes is what I am looking for and unfortunately It seems like the volt can't do it for me. But will keep trying! Good luck to you too.
 

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I started with a V2 brand ecig and it was enough to cut cigarettes for me. But to be honest this was only probably because of their menthol juice. If your a menthol smoker their juice is almost identical to a Malboro menthol light. Ive had to buy quite a few different flavors to figure that out though. On nicotine level Im almost opposite of you. I have tried all the way to 24mg and none of them give me that light feeling a first morning cigarette would give me. But they have still been enough to make me stay away from cigarettes. Plus its just fun to sit on the couch and vape away and not have to go outside all the time lol. Im about to go to an eGo as I no longer care about it looking like a cigarette and I have heard great things about them. Stick with it!
 

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I had spoken to the customer service at SI because I was thinking of getting the Volt max batteries however he told me that all the batteries perform the same it is just a matter of how long they will last

Yep. A different battery wont change much other than how often you have to charge the batteries. Trying different hardware is an expensive crap shoot. It's not likely going to make a juice that doesn't work to curb your cig cravings suddenly do so.

Since you already have decent hardware (The Volt is what I currently use even though I have several higher end mods like the Provari) the best use of your money is in finding a juice that satisfies your urge to smoke. It's out there somewhere. Once you find that, then you can think about fine tuning the experience with hardware if you want to. But until you find a juice that works for you, new hardware is most likely going to be a waste of time and money.

Buy a bunch of blank carts, and order every sample bottle/pack of juice you can get your hands on. And be sure to grab things you don't think you'll like. You'll find your favorite juice among the things you wouldn't expect to like.

Since my goal was to quit smoking tobacco, I tried every tobacco flavor I could find since that's what I was trying to replace. None of them really worked for me and I was still smoking a half a pack a day. Some of them tasted ok (or even better than ok), but they just didn't satisfy my urge to smoke. So I started buying sample packs of everything I would possibly not hate. For example, I didn't think I'd like fruit flavors as anything other than a novelty, but right now I'm gorging myself on Vaporite's Strawberry Lime Delight. It obviously tastes nothing like a cig, but it gives me the same "feeling" in my throat and chest I get from smoking a cig and has enough nic content that it works. It's gotten me down to only 2 or 3 cigs a day.

I'm still tearing through samples right now. Once they're gone I'll be buying a low nic version of my faves for frequent vaping to curb my oral fixation thing with smoking and a higher nic version to get over the nic fits that still require me to smoke. I shouldn't have much problem kicking the cigs entirely with that strategy. But I wouldn't have known that when I started. It takes some trial and error to find what works for you, but it's definitely worth it! It's a hell of a lot better than gums, patches or Chantrix.

Find a flavor you like that feels somewhat satisfying. Then try it in different nic strengths and (if possible) different pg/vg ratios (I prefer mixes between 30-40%VG) until you find your sweet spot. Then you can start looking for mods to address anything specific you don't like or want to improve upon.

I was also thinking about getting the manual but after reading a lot of reviews I was under the impression that with Volt the autos are actually better.

They're both good. Autos main benefit is that they "feel" more like smoking and it's hard to burn out a cartomizer with an auto. But some people, especially those trying to kick full flavor cigs, like bigger hits than you can get in the 5-7 second cut off time the autos have. And hitting the button stops feeling weird pretty quickly. You might want to try a manual with a lower nic content juice (to keep from getting too much nic and the shakiness, headaches and even nausea that can cause) and take bigger or more frequent hits and see if that feels better.
 

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thanks, i think im getting the e-power 18650 or 14650 should i try to get a kit with 2 full units..... i was looking on smoktek.com this is still pretty damn confusing to me lol but thanks for the help wv2win are there any mods that are useful with this?

I looked at their site and they are competitive in price. If I got the 14650 E-Power, I would go with the their Dual Kit. But if you wanted the bigger battery for longer run times, the 18650 looks good also. I think either of these would serve you well. You are definitely wise to move up to a model like the E-Power. And in the category, it is definitely better than the ego. I would stay clear of auto batteries for several reasons, but that whole "cut-off" crap is a real deal breaker, IMO.
 
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MMA, The E-Power switch issue was resolved, and thats why I recommended getting it from Sweet-vapes bc their kit comes with the newest switch that works really well.
Its not that the last switch would stop working, its that Smoktech(who makes the E-Power) did something really stupid and made it only compatible with 2.0ohm and up, when the older switches before that were rated for 1.5ohm and up. Thats wThat switch had a white LED instead of the Blue. Thats what really ...... alot of people off bc many of them used cartos that were below 2.0ohm, like the Ressurectors or the 6ml E-Power dual coils, and they worked fine before, but when they got the white LED switch, the cartos they always used before didnt fire. And alot of people bought the white LED switch bc it was the first time that an E-Power switch had a 5-click on/off feature. So thats what caused all the problems and is why you hear about people having switch issues.
Smoktech realized they totally ..... the bed so not too long ago they came out with another switch to replace the white LED switch that they screwed up on. The replacement switch is the newest switch now and is the switch that comes with the kit if you get it from Sweet-Vapes. It has a blue LED and is rated for 1.5ohm and up, like the older blue LED switches, but now also has the 5-click on/off feature like the white LED switch had.
The newest switch works awesome and fixed all the issues that they originally screwed up on. I have one and it doesnt have any issues running the 1.7ohm Ressurectors, the 1.5ohm E-Power dual coils, etc. It says to only use 1.5ohm and up, but Ive even tried the 1.25ohm dual coils, just to try them on the newest switch, and it worked with them perfectly as well.
 

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If you like the 808 check out the manual G6 from Halo. It was my fourth starter kit (yikes) but I love it. It has great battery life and good TH. I also like my manual Joye510 great vapor battery life is a little weak but that is why you get 2. Don't give up.. try filling your own cartos with some quality liquid. You will need the manual battery for that. A higher PG will give you more TH. I think the juice is what makes the biggest difference for me. The liquid that came with my starter kits made me want to barf (except for Halo) I have tried 8 different juice vendors and I love Halo for a strong tobacco or menthol flavor and Kick Bass or Back Woods Brew for my sweet tooth. It can be a little expensive at first trying to get everything right but just think of what you are saving on cigs.
 

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I started with a V2 brand ecig and it was enough to cut cigarettes for me. But to be honest this was only probably because of their menthol juice. If your a menthol smoker their juice is almost identical to a Malboro menthol light. Ive had to buy quite a few different flavors to figure that out though. On nicotine level Im almost opposite of you. I have tried all the way to 24mg and none of them give me that light feeling a first morning cigarette would give me. But they have still been enough to make me stay away from cigarettes. Plus its just fun to sit on the couch and vape away and not have to go outside all the time lol. Im about to go to an eGo as I no longer care about it looking like a cigarette and I have heard great things about them. Stick with it!

Actually went through a short phase (about a year) when I was smoking marlboro menthol lights and that was a few years ago, but I got so sick of the menthol taste so I haven't even thought about trying a menthol juice lol. But I might. Thanks for the advice. And its great you are off cigarettes!
 

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I actually just put in an order for a bunch of different juices (samples) this weekend so hopefully I can find one that works for me. I already have about 4 packs of blank cartos from a previous order so I should be good to go with them. I made sure to include different nic contents and pg/vg ratio, although I didn't go more than 40% vg as I heard that isn't good for these cartomizers.
 

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MMA1985, if the kit you order doesn't include one or two I'd strongly suggest picking up an atomizer or two for testing juices before putting them into a carto. This is a very good investment; that way if you don't like the juice in the atty, just flush the atty & move on to the next one without contaminating a new carto. :) If you're getting a range of different resistance cartos - some LR and some SR, you might want to approximate those with a pair of attys so if a juice doesn't quite work (tastes 'burnt' at 1.7, lacks flavor at 2.5, etc.) on one you can try it on the other. If you're ordering your kit from Sweet-Vapes they have Bauway (I believe is spelled right) attys that are serviceable and at a decent price (I've had a couple of them). I just ordered a couple of Cisco attys from Avid Vaper Avid Vaper : Personal Vaporizers and Accessories that are supposed to be very good. Haven't tried them yet but Ikenvape has been out of stock for awhile & the ones I got from him are over 3 months old. (BTW I don't just use 'em for testing... I love these things! Dripping is worth the trouble to me whenever possible.)

I've been using the E-Power 14650 for about 6 months or so now - bought it from Sweet-Vapes - and couldn't be happier with it. Of the PVs you've been looking at I think either will be an excellent choice for you, though my only experience is with the one I have.

Best of luck, Blessings & Happy Vaping! :vapor:
 

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I just ordered the 14650 from ccv cuz it comes with 30ml of liquid, i think 5 pre filled carts and 5 resurectors, plus they have the new version with the fixed switch. I think once i get it ill understand it better idk if i need a ''drip tip'' though, probably if i end up getting a tank for it right? i should order a few maybe whats the best tank to use on the 14650?
 

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I just ordered the 14650 from ccv cuz it comes with 30ml of liquid, i think 5 pre filled carts and 5 resurectors, plus they have the new version with the fixed switch. I think once i get it ill understand it better idk if i need a ''drip tip'' though, probably if i end up getting a tank for it right? i should order a few maybe whats the best tank to use on the 14650?

I've never tried a tank myself... read too many tales of problems about them on here & never saw any point in them, but some folks love 'em. I think you'll love the resurrectors though. That's about all I use when I'm out & about, them and the Boge 2.0 Ohm. Lately I've been using an Ikenvape 510 1.8 Ohm dripping atomizer just for short trips and sitting here at my desk. One fill (3 drops) lasts about as long as an analog cigarette, which is about how long it takes to get anywhere from here in this small town. (If I was going somewhere else I probably shouldn't have *started* from here anyway, but....) If I'm going further the resurrectors hold quite a bit of juice - almost twice as much as the Boges - and they'll keep you going for a good while without even topping 'em off. (Of course with any cartos it's best to keep them topped off fairly frequently; do that & they can last a long time!)

You might want to take notice of the other folks' mentions of tanks, clearomizers, Visions, all that kind of stuff. I haven't tried any (but one & I got a bad factory run on whatever that was... just a fluke I think).

Good luck, & Happy Vaping! :vapor:
 

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I made sure to include different nic contents and pg/vg ratio, although I didn't go more than 40% vg as I heard that isn't good for these cartomizers.

Don't be afraid to go for more VG if 40% doesn't work. You might kill a few carts faster than you would otherwise or get some dry hits from poor wicking but it's still worth giving it a try. If you like it, you can use carts with a tank or or an atty/tank combo that works better with higher VG ratios. I'm discovering more and more that I just don't like PG. It tends to dry my mouth out and give me headaches if I vape too much of it.
Since I like basic flavors I've even been thinking of going the DIY route and making my own pure VG juices which I can thin out myself using water or alcohol so they work well in my hardware. But you have to find out what flavors you like before you should even consider doing anything like that.
 
Don't give up on e-cigs! Try to find a physical store that will let you try different models and e-liquid flavors before you invest. Buying online simply doesn't allow that benefit. (definitely get a manual switch so that you control your vape!)

Every person is different; their model preferences (I love the eGo T "B Series" for the huge tank & clean taste from wicking), their vaping style and their liquid flavors. If you can find a vendor store that will guide you to find what's best for you, and let you sample some of the flavors at different PG/VG ratios and nicotine stregnths, you will find what works for you!
 

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If there is a store near me i haven't been able to find it I would probably have to drive pretty far. all the smoke shops sell the same Vapcig i think. but some do have flavors, idk if anyone knows of a store near Riverside that'd be great. Im still waiting for ccv to ship my order its been 4 days i think, but thats alright I emailed one of the guys and he was nice.
 

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well got my package today, one of the smok resurectors was missing two wholes in it so right off the bat i was down to 4 then the e liquid i recieved doesnt soak into the bottom of the carts, i used what was left of my old bottle of pg and it worked great but i ruined 3 out of the 4 usable cartos filling them, i took one apart to find that i was smoking the cotton crap so im down to one carto and have 5 junk ones that are epower brand, wassnt expecting to get anything out of those but why did i order from crystalclearvaping? i spent far more money and recieved less in the end, got it last night got a pack of smokes this morning cuz i just wasted 60 dollars. someone tell me please whats a good combo of cart and juice because this SUCKS SO MUCH. im not a total newbie i know the difference between what works and whats broke and this is CRAP. so please what products and site should i use??????
 

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the e liquid i recieved doesnt soak into the bottom of the carts

Use the condom method and fill from the bottom with new carts. In case you're unfamiliar with the method, simply fill the little rubber "condom" that comes with most carts about 3/4 full, then slide the cart in thread side down and allow to soak at least 10-15 minutes. Pull it up a bit and let any excess drip out for a couple minutes, then remove the cart and wipe the bottom clean with a paper towel, then lightly blow through bottom end into a paper towel to clear out the airway, screw on to your battery and vape.

why did i order from crystalclearvaping?

CCV is a good vendor (love companies with free shipping!). And the Smoktech stuff is very well reviewed and from personal experience their Carts are excellent. I don't think you're likely to have significantly better results with another vendor or product unless you just happen to get lucky.

However you say you're in Riverside. Did a quick Google search and it looks like VaporCig.com has a store there.
VaporCig.com Store
Wells Fargo Bank Building
3750 University Avenue, Ste. 570
Riverside, CA 92501
(951) 276-1539

It's often difficult to troubleshoot things over the internet. I don't have any experience with them but they do carry juices and things like the Ego so they should have some knowledge in how they're used (hopefully better than a smoke shop that just carries stuff). Hopefully they can give you some hands on help and get you on the right track. And it's always good to support local vendors if you're lucky enough to have one.
 
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