New to E-Cigs

[Mr Cheese]

Hello!

I just would like to start by introducing myself, I'm Mr Cheese!!!
I'm currently 18 and I have never smoked a cigarette/cigar in my life. Recently I purchased an Ego Twist and a Kanger Pro tank for my mom as an alternative to smoking (she's been smoking for 30+ years). Unfortunately she doesn't like it and won't use it. I didn't want it to go to waste so I decided to use it since it's supposedly safe at least compared to cigarettes and other alternatives.

It's been a little over two weeks that I've been using it and I don't really feel addicted to it, but I really enjoy the light headed buzz that I get (I purchased two 50 mL bottles with only 4mg of nicotine). Should I be concerned? Like I said I've never smoked a cigarette in my life and from what I can tell the majority of people that use E-cigs are trying to quit smoking. It isn't that expensive so I don't really mind using it a few times a week to just relax and enjoy the buzz, but I'm concerned that I don't really know what I'm getting into. I was kind of interested in getting some opinions from you guys. Should I get rid of this thing and quit or should I just keep going at without being concerned.

Thanks !

 

[Lucky1127]

If you weren't a smoker I wouldn't just my opinion do what makes you happy remember that nicotine is what causes the heart problems in smokers your just bypassing the cancer with vaping

 

[redz22]

I'm also 18 and started vaping as a better alternative to cigarettes. Only smoked a few real cigs before. Also, I know the buzz you get from it and I also enjoy it. It's really up to you if you want to quit or not, but I enjoy it. If you do decide to keep with it, the hobby grows fast! I went from a regular ego battery to an ego twist to a SmokTech SID in a matter of a few weeks!

 

[revco]

No no no no no. Are you INSANE?!?!??! Put that thing down right now and don't touch it until you've heard me out, thought about it for a few days and come back to it.

Nicotine is an incredibly addictive substance. Safe or not, which none of us REALLY know, it rules our lives to almost every degree. We can't travel without it, we can't go to the store without it...and if we do go without for even a few hours, we go freaking crazy. The withdrawl symptoms are incredibly miserable...night sweats, insane nightmares, physical withdrawl and more. It's misery. We vape because we want to get away from cigarettes, but we're too weak to actually give up nicotine.

If you're going to do it, I can't stop you. But at LEAST get 0mg juices. This drug is nothing to mess around with and at your age, all of us former smokers would rather see you not even play with it. Seriously, stop now. You don't want to be like us...dependent on a chemical and bound to it for years, decades...nearly our entire lifetimes in some cases. Please, do your research if you don't believe me...learn about nicotine addiction, read up on it until it freaks you out so much you never want to touch nicotine in your life.

You won't even know you're addicted until you are. By then, it's too late.

Edit: You too, Redz22.

 

[Bradley Renfro]

I regret ever starting real cig. They are now woven into my life after 5 years. word of advice if you are not addicted to something dont start. I have been drinking coffee since<12 and I must have it and idk how to go without. fairly harmless but i missed my coffee once recently... never again.
But life is ment to be lived so enjoy your time by doing what maked you happy. I drank 10 cups today and enjoyed every drop.
P.s. well said revco

 

[Bramble]

Since you're asking, and you admit that you don't know what you're getting into, I would say don't use it at all. Find another person who's trying to quit smoking and give it to them (or sell it to them). If you really feel like you enjoy it, at least use zero nicotine in it.

 

[jwoode]

If you were my son, I would start my standard 30 minute lecture on the dead end that nicotine addiction really is.
I would point out the atrocity committed against humanity by the tobacco companies in the name of greed.

I would calmly suggest that you pass on the concept of vaping and leave it at that.

Then when you ignored me.. I would cut off your allowance and let you pay for college yourself.

I'm old.. I don't have to be PC.

 

[BobbyQ]

Just hold on to it.. Maybe she will change her mind. And she might need 18mg or 24mg at first.

 

[ImperfectFuture]

No no no no no. Are you INSANE?!?!??! Put that thing down right now and don't touch it until you've heard me out, thought about it for a few days and come back to it.

Nicotine is an incredibly addictive substance. Safe or not, which none of us REALLY know, it rules our lives to almost every degree. We can't travel without it, we can't go to the store without it...and if we do go without for even a few hours, we go freaking crazy. The withdrawl symptoms are incredibly miserable...night sweats, insane nightmares, physical withdrawl and more. It's misery. We vape because we want to get away from cigarettes, but we're too weak to actually give up nicotine.

If you're going to do it, I can't stop you. But at LEAST get 0mg juices. This drug is nothing to mess around with and at your age, all of us former smokers would rather see you not even play with it. Seriously, stop now. You don't want to be like us...dependent on a chemical and bound to it for years, decades...nearly our entire lifetimes in some cases. Please, do your research if you don't believe me...learn about nicotine addiction, read up on it until it freaks you out so much you never want to touch nicotine in your life.

You won't even know you're addicted until you are. By then, it's too late.

DOUBLE THE SENTIMENT HERE!!!

I dn't want to stay on disposables, and will not be buying a kit. I am new to ecigs too (waiting for my first order), 30+ years of smoking (started at 23 socially, whole nutter story), and nothing else helps (my level of smoking is 4 to 5 cigs per day, ultralights, 3 to 4 puffs at a time, and STILL can't go cold turkey). I will be using just plain tobacco flavor, lights, then move to ultralight disposables mixed with 0 nicotine disposables.

You may think its a cheap high, but think of the money you save without it. Also, it will cease giving that high, and you will need stronger doses. I don't even feel a high unless I take a 2 mg lozenge. Save yourself years of grief, you don't need the propylene glycol, nor other additives in your lungs. Vamping shouldn't become the new Cool Lifestyle.

 

[TheReign]

Koof, I'm almost 21 years old and started smoking from 15 to about 20 years old. I'm young and i regret ever taking up smoking. From day one it didn't bother me and by the time i knew it, it was way too late. I had a pack a day habit an sometimes 2, Trust me you guys, nicotine is not something you want to get into just for the light headed buzz LOL. I did it because i grew up around alot of people smoking went through some hard times in my life that im not proud of and the smoking relieved the stress from my daily life. I can honestly say I wish i did it some other way. Vaping is not something to get into with nicotine just because it's the new thing to do like everyone is saying. If it were 0MG nicotine, there would be no problem at all. Theres nothing we can do to stop you from doing it, only HIGHLY suggest that you don't!!!

 

[JoeDerty]

I would quit now before its to late find something better to spend your money on!!! A car, guns, etc find a better hobby that will pay off in the future not one where you could heart yourself and not just throw you money in the trash! If i could go back id never pick up a smoke when i was 16.! when you start vaping its cheap but later on you start buying a lot of stuff unless you have self control it can be really expensive. Just my 2 cents

 

[edyle]

Hello!

I just would like to start by introducing myself, I'm Mr Cheese!!!
I'm currently 18 and I have never smoked a cigarette/cigar in my life. Recently I purchased an Ego Twist and a Kanger Pro tank for my mom as an alternative to smoking (she's been smoking for 30+ years). Unfortunately she doesn't like it and won't use it. I didn't want it to go to waste so I decided to use it since it's supposedly safe at least compared to cigarettes and other alternatives.

It's been a little over two weeks that I've been using it and I don't really feel addicted to it, but I really enjoy the light headed buzz that I get (I purchased two 50 mL bottles with only 4mg of nicotine). Should I be concerned? Like I said I've never smoked a cigarette in my life and from what I can tell the majority of people that use E-cigs are trying to quit smoking. It isn't that expensive so I don't really mind using it a few times a week to just relax and enjoy the buzz, but I'm concerned that I don't really know what I'm getting into. I was kind of interested in getting some opinions from you guys. Should I get rid of this thing and quit or should I just keep going at without being concerned.

Thanks !

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/519291-one-stop-noob-shop.html

Well first:
Please get a couple disposable cigalikes for you mom to try out; it's easier to transition that way, because it's like finding an alternate brand of cigarrete from what she currently uses. Maybe get a couple different types; all she needs to get started is to find one that she either likes or if she's interested enough, at least one she finds tolerably workable. Tanks and batteries and such are more finnicky and can seem too much trouble compared to just lighting up a cig that you're accustomed to for decades.

Since you never smoked, if you continue vaping, you might as well try some 0 nicotine eliquid; it would be interesting if you still get a buzz in which case, I'd be very concerned because 4mg is already pretty light.

But ultimately the bottom line:

should I just keep going at without being concerned.

No, you should not just keep going at it without being concerned.

For myself and many others, after decades of smoking, vaping if finally a huge improvement; whatever downsides, if any, are quite clearly worth the risks.
But for non smokers who are not already kind of locked in, having concerns is only sensible.


oh: and there's lots of smokers out there spending lots of money on cigs, so the industry is attracting that money; since you are not already smoking and spending that kind of money on cigs, getting into vaping is going to actually cost you, whereas for most of us smokers, vaping easily costs us for the first few months to a year before be start saving.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Thanks for all of the really good responses so quickly guys! So I'm curious,

I have been drinking coffee since<12 and I must have it and idk how to go without. fairly harmless but i missed my coffee once recently... never again.
But life is ment to be lived so enjoy your time by doing what maked you happy.

Pretty much everyone has said that they regret smoking their first cigarette (which contains a ton of other addictive chemicals) so what really makes it that different than being addicted to coffee/caffeine? I've been drinking coffee pretty much every day for two years and I feel pretty groggy and completely dysfunctional without it yet I still enjoy it without having any desire to quit.

Since you never smoked, if you continue vaping, you might as well try some 0 nicotine eliquid; it would be interesting if you still get a buzz in which case, I'd be very concerned because 4mg is already pretty light.

It's probably due to the fact that I've never smoked before so I have no tolerance.

Also... I understand that it can be expensive, but so can drinking soda (especially living here in Alaska where a can is anywhere between $1-$2) yet people still do it without even thinking twice. Plus I have been very fortunate to have a well paying job that I will be able to stick with through college so I'm not really concerned about cost at all.

 

[edyle]

Thanks for all of the really good responses so quickly guys! So I'm curious,
Pretty much everyone has said that they regret smoking their first cigarette (which contains a ton of other addictive chemicals) so what really makes it that different than being addicted to coffee/caffeine? I've been drinking coffee pretty much every day for two years and I feel pretty groggy and completely dysfunctional without it yet I still enjoy it without having any desire to quit.


It's probably due to the fact that I've never smoked before so I have no tolerance.

Also... I understand that it can be expensive, but so can drinking soda (especially living here in Alaska where a can is anywhere between $1-$2) yet people still do it without even thinking twice. Plus I have been very fortunate to have a well paying job that I will be able to stick with through college so I'm not really concerned about cost at all.

Well on the plus side maybe your experience will end up helping your mother finally quit smoking and vape instead.

 

[Heathurricane]

Did your mom not like the concept of an ecig, or was 4mg just too low for her? I usee to smoke at least a half pack a day & started vaping at 24mg... im currently down to 12mg but I would have probably kept smoking if I started at that low a mg.

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[revco]

So I'm curious, Pretty much everyone has said that they regret smoking their first cigarette (which contains a ton of other addictive chemicals) so what really makes it that different than being addicted to coffee/caffeine?

I think maybe you're just trying to be dense here, but I can respect that...I was that way too when I was your age.

The difference is, if I don't have a cup of coffee in the morning, I'm just tired. If I don't have nicotine in the morning, I get irritated, eventually angry, restless, can't concentrate and my body starts down the path of actual, physical withdrawal. By the next day, I wake up in a cold sweat and want nicotine so bad that I'd drive 500 miles to get some. I'd smoke a cigarette if I couldn't vape, I'd grab a .... off the ground most likely if I couldn't buy a smoke. I wouldn't lick coffee off the floor, OK? You see the difference there?

Listen, the buzz isn't that great. There's things out there that are a better time. At first, you get this light feeling...maybe it feels good, but it's really actually pretty lame. Then, a few weeks later, you build up your tolerance and you have to up it to get that feeling again. Then, you never feel that feeling ever again, you just crave the nicotine constantly, without a moment's rest. And then you're addicted.

You can think it's safe all you want. But you wanna know what? The facts prove differently. Nicotine increases your risk of heart disease, that's a known fact. Look it up. There's other known consequences, too. For us former smokers, it's REDUCED harm. For you, it's PURE HARM. Cool?

 

[Mr Cheese]

Honestly I don't know... All I know is that I spent a lot of time trying to convince my mom to use her vape, but she would just use a BS excuse like how her doctor told her to smoke a cigarette and then vape and progress from there otherwise it won't work. At first I was OK with that, but the less I reminded her to use it, the more I would find her smoking cigarettes. In fact for a little over a week she couldn't even find it and it turned out that she left it in her car. That'd be fine if we didn't live in Alaska lol....

 

[edyle]

Honestly I don't know... All I know is that I spent a lot of time trying to convince my mom to use her vape, but she would just use a BS excuse like how her doctor told her to smoke a cigarette and then vape and progress from there otherwise it won't work. At first I was OK with that, but the less I reminded her to use it, the more I would find her smoking cigarettes. In fact for a little over a week she couldn't even find it and it turned out that she left it in her car. That'd be fine if we didn't live in Alaska lol....

cigalike cigalike cigalike cigalike cigalike cigalike
the ones that look just like a cigarette with a red/orange light on the front that lights up when used.

Leave a few at stratic spots; sooner or later she'll need a smoke and the closest thing will be the cigalike.

NJoys are expensive but I hear the really hit the spot.

 

[ImperfectFuture]

I think maybe you're just trying to be dense here, but I can respect that...I was that way too when I was your age.

The difference is, if I don't have a cup of coffee in the morning, I'm just tired. If I don't have nicotine in the morning, I get irritated, eventually angry, restless, can't concentrate and my body starts down the path of actual, physical withdrawal. By the next day, I wake up in a cold sweat and want nicotine so bad that I'd drive 500 miles to get some. I'd smoke a cigarette if I couldn't vape, I'd grab a .... off the ground most likely if I couldn't buy a smoke. I wouldn't lick coffee off the floor, OK? You see the difference there?

Listen, the buzz isn't that great. There's things out there that are a better time. At first, you get this light feeling...maybe it feels good, but it's really actually pretty lame. Then, a few weeks later, you build up your tolerance and you have to up it to get that feeling again. Then, you never feel that feeling ever again, you just crave the nicotine constantly, without a moment's rest. And then you're addicted.

You can think it's safe all you want. But you wanna know what? The facts prove differently. Nicotine increases your risk of heart disease, that's a known fact. Look it up. There's other known consequences, too. For us former smokers, it's REDUCED harm. For you, it's PURE HARM. Cool?

Listen to the man.

It's meant to get off analogs. There are anecdotal stories of just this type (and I can see vaping in college being the new thing), these stories are part of the reason for FDA wanting to regulate. It's not coffee, tea, soda. I've eliminated everything but a small amount of coffee, and have turned to juicing and vegetarian diet. I STILL can't quit, even at much lighter levels than you. You will become addicted. It's the buzz man. You'd be better off moving to my state or Colorado, and getting legal ........, since that at least has better medicinal qualities, plus no propolyne glycol (that enough is reason to not perma vape).

 

[revco]

Honestly I don't know... All I know is that I spent a lot of time trying to convince my mom to use her vape, but she would just use a BS excuse like how her doctor told her to smoke a cigarette and then vape and progress from there otherwise it won't work. At first I was OK with that, but the less I reminded her to use it, the more I would find her smoking cigarettes. In fact for a little over a week she couldn't even find it and it turned out that she left it in her car. That'd be fine if we didn't live in Alaska lol....

If you want to talk about this, I'll be much more gentle. I lost my mom to tongue cancer two years ago, so it's a familiar situation...all of it.

I think the first thing you really have to understand here, because you're not familiar with addiction (clearly!?!?), is that it's difficult to quit and one can rationalize their behavior, even in the face of certain death. No one quits smoking without first wanting to quit smoking. Does she want to quit? Has she tried to quit? If not, you have an uphill battle...no amount of nagging, reminding, pleading or asking from you is going to make it happen. If she does, though, there's immediate hope.

My mom never really wanted to quit. She'd say she did, even as her health deteriorated rapidly, but in the end...nothing really worked. We tried gum, patches, Chantix, everything...made big Pharma a ton of money...but it just wasn't going to work because she didn't want to. I think if she had been able to peer a few years into the future, that would have been a different story. I think had I realized the relatively near term consequence too, I would have taken a much different tact...a tough love kind of thing, but still love. (Edit: I don't mean to cause you despair with my story, but rather telling you what I, personally, have learned from it and how I might have acted differently, had I known. I also would have quit smoking/nicotine and stayed quit, long ago.)

It might be a certain setup that would make her consider it more. The cigalikes might be a good thing for the familiarity, but I think more importantly, it's going to be a flavor. If you can find something she really likes, that could do it. Do you know some flavors she likes? Try to get a couple in and have her try them. Honestly, none of them out there will be like smoking...thus the need for her to want to quit first. But I think once you find something that's pretty tasty, it actually becomes desirable to do that instead.

Anyway, I wish you luck with your efforts and we're here to support you. (And to keep you off nicotine!)