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i want to jump into tanks but im not sure where to start. can someone explain the difference of boge cartos and the dual coil as i saw on the masterlist but i wasnt sure what the difference was.

does the type of material, delrin, alumnium and stainless steel make a big impact and how so?

and what tank would be great to start off with without breaking the wallet ~25-30
 
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i want to jump into tanks but im not sure where to start. can someone explain the difference of boge cartos and the dual coil as i saw on the masterlist but i wasnt sure what the difference was.
Well, there are basically four major cartomizer manufacturers. Boge and Smoktech are the two big players here as they likely own at least 80% of the market. Ikenvape and Kanger make up the final 20%.

Smoketech is the only company that makes dual coil cartomizers. This means instead of a having a single heating coil, they have two... theoretically for more vapor production, but at a price of using more battery power to fire two coils simultaneously. I've used both, and strongly prefer single coils. Enough said about that here. BTW, Smoktech makes single coil cartomizers, too. You can also put a single coil carto in a DCT (dual coil tank).

Smoktech's filler material is less densely packed in the tube, making them easier to fill with juice, but also slightly more likely to flood with too much juice causing gurgling, poor vapor production, or a stiff pull.

Boge's filler material is more densely packed in the tube, making them more difficult to fill, but less likely to flood. Boges may have trouble wicking enough juice for a heavy vapor. There may or may not be differences in the flavor production between the two brands. I suggest trying different brands to see which you prefer with your setup.

I find the Ikenvape cartomizers to be my personal favorite. Sort of a happy medium between the above two brands. These are premium cartos made to precise specifications and quality control by the vendor. These are still made by an unknown manufacturer in China, which place a limit on the quantity of cartos that they will produce for Ikenvape. Therefore, being that they are a very popular cartomizer, they are often out-of-stock.

I've not tried the Kanger cartos, but I do know that they differ from the other brands by using a horizontal coil instead of a vertical coil. How that makes a difference, I do not know.

does the type of material, delrin, alumnium and stainless steel make a big impact and how so?
Guess we are talking tank materials here. Durability and appearance preferences play a part here. Stronger materials such as stainless steel or anodized aluminum will be more durable than plastic or delrin caps, but will also be slightly heavier in weight. Tube materials can be polycarbonate (clear plastic that can be adversely affected by certain flavors), polypropylene (frosted plastic which is immune to those flavors), pyrex glass, and metal.

The tank itself is merely a reservoir for the juice to feed the cartomizer. A quality cartomizer that performs up to your expectations is more important in the ultimate performance of a cartotank. A $10 tank may have poorly fitting parts which can affect its performance or ability to hold juice without leaking.

Having said that, a $75 or more high end cartotank is not going to perform better than a decent $25 tank. High end tanks tend to have finer machining of stainless steel caps for a particular aesthetic appearance, but be aware that many of these high end tanks still use the cheapo polycarbonate plastic tubes that can crack or melt with certain flavors.

and what tank would be great to start off with without breaking the wallet ~25-30

I generally recommend the My Vapor Store Pro DCT complete tank kit or the IBTanked complete tank kit for a first tank. Both can be had for under $30 and are quality tanks. Both are safe to use with the tank-cracking flavors of juice.

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510 Pro DCTank Combo

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https://www.ibtanked.com/

You can find some useful resource information in my blog articles, including a cartotank setup guide, a review of the IBTanked, and a large list of vendors that sell pre-punched cartomizers for cartotanks.

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The most important thing to remember when purchasing a tank is to consider what cartomizer you will be using in it. Tanks are primarily of two lengths - standard and extra long (XL), and cartomizers come in the same two lengths. Match the lengths of both tank and carto for the best fit. Note the brand's names that fit particular tank lengths.

 
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I was going to sound off in this thread with pretty much the same info that Baditude gave (including the same tanks even!) but since Bad's got this (and is faaaaaar more knowledgeable than I) you are in the hands of one of the "Masters of Tank-fu" (Ocelot being the Cat style master of Tank-fu)....

In fact, I think Baditude and Ocelot should have that as their titles. But that's just me. They've both given so much knowledge about tanks its amazing.
 

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I'm looking at getting a cartotank with my next purchase and have a question. I've watched reviews and read forums, but haven't seen anything about how well they stay together. From what I've seen, the only thing holding the caps to the glass tank are the o-rings. I'm I seeing that right in my research? If that's true, how well do they resist being knocked open or off the PV? Also, the drip tips are just push-ons held in place by o-rings as well, correct? Wouldn't they be more prone to coming off in a pocket/purse/backpack?
 

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@ barstool:

You are correct. The end caps are held in place on the tube via silicone o-rings. Hard as it may sound, they fit pretty tight. In fact, once they "settle in", they are somewhat difficult to remove. The same goes for the drip tip mouth pieces, although they generally don't fit as tight in the carto.

In a year of using some 25 different cartotanks made by several different manufacturers, I can honestly say that I've never had a cartotank fall apart or slide accidentally off of the cartomizer. I have had a few drip tips fall off while in my pocket and pulling the mod out, but I've yet to lose any.

Just handle your tanks with reasonable care and you won't have issues. When removing a tank/mod from your pocket, try to grab it by the mod, not the tank. That's just common sense.
 

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A good tank is the M1A1 that notcigs sells. The reason I like them is the endcaps are thin. On a lot of tanks the endcaps take up a good portion of the room. Ikenvape has a good looking tank and likes been posted already excellent cartos. Another one you might try, that I really like is his Dbox pyrex puritanks. The main thing you have to have is an air tight seal because tanks work on a vacuum system like a pet waterer.
 
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