New to vaping, advise?

[genebob]

Hello everyone

So there I was at the counter in a 7 eleven, 10 days ago,10 feet from my next failed attempt at quitting smoking. Right as the words "Marlboro medium 100's" was coming out of my mouth, I saw something called njoy... I asked the cashier what It was, he shrugged and bobbled his head, but I was like, what the hey, Ill get that too... so in the package I bought for 19.99 was a battery, 2 cartridge things, and a usb charger... I haven't smoked the Marlboros yet.

Since then Ive gotten 2 more batteries, and a couple packs of the cartridges, regular flavor and menthol... Ive been hooked, and Ive been trying to do a lot of research on them.

So I would like to accept any advise you more experienced vapers out there might have to offer, and if you wouldn't mind answering a couple questions in the process.

1. I see a lot of posts about atomizers and cartomizers and flux capacitors, and am a little overwhelmed ... I intend to look more into it but my main question is... how are these fancy gizmos any better than the njoy thing I'm doing now?

2. sometimes when I use these things I feel like my airways are constricted a little.. not majorly in any way but I get a little wheeze for a few seconds after I puff... should I be concerned by this?

3. I also saw an ad for "blu" and was thinking of ordering those but wondered if they are any good?

``please be kind to a newb

 

[Nyte]

Welcome Genebob!

Wow, did you find the right place to be! Sit back and allow the amazing people here to help you in almost anyway possible concerning vaping.

(I am a complete noob myself, but I've learned so much from this board. I'm just being a cheerleader for the fabulous folk who frequent here. Rah rah and stuff!)

One thing I do feel confident in telling you is that vaping seems to be a very personal thing. (Not as in private, but as in a "Find what YOU like best and stick with it." If you are enjoying the NJOY. (hee!) then by all means carry on!

/salute

 

[bombshellECHO]

no blu there are 10x better PV's out there for the same price or for less than what the blu cost's though thats just MY opinion. my experience with the blu ecig has been mediocre at best. other people like but they are mostly frowned apon here. they put alot of time into their advertising and not into their products.

but once again this is just my opinion

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Welcome to ECF!
You might want to start here:

ECF Library

"The Wonderful World of Vaping" is a six part series, but will give you a wealth of information.

I wouldn't order Blu. It's not the worst e-cig in the world, but it certainly isn't the best. The easiest way to put it is like this; smaller batteries have a shorter life between charges. If you smoke a half a pack or less per day, then you might check out either a 510 or a KR808D-1. If you smoke more than that, you'll probably want to check out either a Riva or an eGo. The batteries on the Riva/eGo are bigger, it doesn't look like a cigarette, but they last around 6-8 hours between charges.

Vapor4Life has the KR808 kits.
Liberty-Flights has the 510, Riva and eGo kits.

 

[vert1276]

JUst say NO to the Blu cig! I think you would be hard pressed on here to find anyone recommending it. Sure it may work but there are just some many better PV's out there for the same or less money. The NJOY is a A4081 e gic(someone correct me if im wrong). Now this probably means nothing to you but........The point im trying to make is, its kinda what you might call a "proprietary system" meaning you cant really order blank cartos from 100's of different venders or batteries ect ect.

If I was gonna recommend something for a newbie.....If you want something close to cigarette size I would say get a Joye 510 or a KR808d-1 e cig. and for something a little bit bigger I would say A joye Ego. Then of course there are "mods" but dont step into that world yet till you see what you like.

 

[LibertariaNate]

Hello everyone

So there I was at the counter in a 7 eleven, 10 days ago,10 feet from my next failed attempt at quitting smoking. Right as the words "Marlboro medium 100's" was coming out of my mouth, I saw something called NJOY... I asked the cashier what It was, he shrugged and bobbled his head, but I was like, what the hey, Ill get that too... so in the package I bought for 19.99 was a battery, 2 cartridge things, and a usb charger... I haven't smoked the Marlboros yet.

Since then Ive gotten 2 more batteries, and a couple packs of the cartridges, regular flavor and menthol... Ive been hooked, and Ive been trying to do a lot of research on them.

So I would like to accept any advise you more experienced vapers out there might have to offer, and if you wouldn't mind answering a couple questions in the process.

1. I see a lot of posts about atomizers and cartomizers and flux capacitors, and am a little overwhelmed ... I intend to look more into it but my main question is... how are these fancy gizmos any better than the NJOY thing I'm doing now?

2. sometimes when I use these things I feel like my airways are constricted a little.. not majorly in any way but I get a little wheeze for a few seconds after I puff... should I be concerned by this?

3. I also saw an ad for "blu" and was thinking of ordering those but wondered if they are any good?

``please be kind to a newb

Welcome to ECF genebob!

With all of the options available to you it is VERY easy to suffer from information overload. This is a great place though with many helpful folks just itching to give advice to newcomers.

1. Atomizers and cartomizers are attached to the battery and both contain the heating element that "vaporizes" the nicotine solution that we inhale. Atomizers are used with cartridges or you can drip directly onto the bridge. Cartomizers are really a cartridge/atomizer combo.

2. Everyone reacts differently to vaping. Some people have a reaction to PG which is usually the base for the nic solution I mentioned above. Nicotine is also an irritant. You may want to try different juices with varying PG/VG ratios to find what works best for you.

3. I started with blu and was completely underwhelmed. I liked it enough to see potential, but not enough to get me of the cigs.

Before anyone can really recommend a different eCig for you to try we need to know a bit more about what you want from it. Does it need to look like a cigarette? The smaller the eCig the shorter the battery life. Bigger eCigs can be used for much longer before needing to be recharged.

 

[blacklung]

Hi and Welcome!

1) how are they better? Can't say for sure since I've never tried an Njoy(or know the specs)... but, off the top of my head.(aSSumptions)
parts availability
"hobby grade" vs. consumer grade( rc car at target, vs. rc car at a rc shop... walmart bike vs. a "Specialized")
customer service(if bought off a ecf vendor)
more "research"/ trial and error(vs. "it works", make a nice decorative package and stick em' by the cigarrettes)
cheaper in the long run?, vs. buying Njoy cartridges or whatever they use.

2) I would be concerned... another reason to try another brand of e cig.

3) never heard of it.... I don't really listen to/look at ads for E Cigs. Seems they are all scams or just cheap crap with $$ going towards ads vs. improving product. I "look" for recommendations from members/vendors on this forum VS. trying to find stuff on my own. (not much of a risk taker... especially when inhaling whatever it is I'm inhaling)


Being New: you will spend some $$$ before you figure out what you like(if your Njoy is working for you, stick with it).... if you don't have money to waste by experimenting, I'd suggest doing research and buying 1 quality product vs. 10 crappy ones. It also takes some trial and error even with good equipment.(over filling/flooding, not enough, inhale too hard, not enough, etc.)

Just FYI:
I currently only "drip" using a 306LR..... and recommend trying.

 

[Astatine]

1. I see a lot of posts about atomizers and cartomizers and flux capacitors, and am a little overwhelmed ... I intend to look more into it but my main question is... how are these fancy gizmos any better than the NJOY thing I'm doing now?

2. sometimes when I use these things I feel like my airways are constricted a little.. not majorly in any way but I get a little wheeze for a few seconds after I puff... should I be concerned by this?

3. I also saw an ad for "blu" and was thinking of ordering those but wondered if they are any good?

``please be kind to a newb

1-I think your Njoye comes with a cartomizer (the atomizer and the cartridge where the juice is are a one piece element. Some people are very happy with it. Others prefer to have them separate so that they can buy whatever juice they want and use it. I have to say that I have become very picky with my atomizers and I like to buy a certain kind. I also know someone who has been an Njoye user and he's had short lived elements. He seems to be buying a new charger or new cartomizers very often. the choice of flavors to vape is also somewhat limited (although, if that's what you like, it's great!)

2- Some people are sensitive to a type of juice or a component in the flavoring. That's one argument in favor of a set up with a separate atomizer and cartridge. You would have better control of what you use and be able to try different combinations and suppliers.

3- I started vaping with Blu when they had a separate atomizer and cartridges. I dropped them when they moved to cartomizers. I understand that it is how they make their money, but for reasons stated in 1 and 2 (plus a few more we can discuss on another thread) that's not what I need.

As for what you could buy for your next move, I am not a specialist, but I have moved on to a Joye 510. I like it because:
1- It still looks small and is well accepted by people around me.
2- The parts are readily available from lots of vendors, they are reasonably priced.
3- they allow me to use the juices I want (not limited by what's available)
4- It seems that they have a good life span from what I can tell after 6 months of use.
5- They satisfy my needs! (but that's a more personal evaluation)

By all means, if you are happy with your Njoye, keep with it

Hope you will find the info to help you.

 

[swedishfish]

If you enjoy vaping and hate charging batteries, try an ego type pv (8 hour battery, good TH). Very easy to use, you can get parts anywhere and it's versatile. You can use cartomizers (which I prefer), dual coil cartomizers, tanks, cart/atty, drip, etc.

You can get one at Liberty Flights for $29.99, a box of LR 2.0 boge cartomizers $7.99, and a drip tip $1.50 and be all set.

Read the review section to find a good juice vendor.

Good luck!

 

[swedishfish]

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[genebob]

Well, getting into it more I have to be honest, I would like it to NOT look like a real cig as much as possible. Maybe I'm weird but it just seems like the cig clone with the light up end and all that seems a little hokey. It seems to me that vaping is good on its own merits without having to pretend to be something else

I really appreciate all the help and advise from everyone.... I think ill try the joye model next and let y'all know how it turns out!

Sent from my SCH-R880 using Tapatalk

 

[swedishfish]

I'd advise not to get the 510. You'll go nuts charging batteries.

I have one for when I go out, but for an all day vape I use the ego. Now you have to go juice shopping! Fun part!

 

[AttyPops]

The flux capacitor usually causes the problem, but if you get fresh, good quality e-juice, that can help too.

Also, IDK if that is a disposable or not. Usually they only last a short time (a few recharges) then die. You'd have to give us specifics or post a pic.

Plenty of good advice above on models. Of course, if all else fails, and all the advice is too much, just get an eGo. (And I'm going to get flamed for that one... ). Spend the next two months or so researching atomizers, cartomizers and e-juice until you find what works for you! That's not to discourage you... it's fun. And you save a lot of $$ that you can buy more cool vaping stuff with.

EDIT: Since you don't want it to look like a cig, might as well get a big-battery PV (eGo, Riva, blah blah blah, or a mod). Lasts most (if not all) day between charges.

 

[dormouse]

Blu sucks for most people. You are buying pretty and not performance. Very short battery life.
Ignore ads

Any model that is actually good can be purchased by its original model number at multibrand ecig vendors without the lies and ripoff prices and the bs

There is some stuff you can do with Njoy - the 2 piece model? The 2-piece is an RN4081. Note: You can not use other resistances like hotter LR cartos or anything like that on a slim battery. You can try RN4081 cartos from Njoy, Aquavaporcig, Smokestik, AZSmokeFree (also has nice manual battery which should have a sealed end safe from leaks, parts including atomizer and carts to use it as a 3-piece), Vaporkings.com has blank cartos, NoSmokeVA has a nice PCC. Goodprophets has their Double Deuce stuff which fits RN4081

Other models have more stuff, more upgrade paths. But if you like prefilled cartomizers then the main thing to look at would be Vapor4Life.com which is a bit hotter than what you have and has lots of prefilled cartos. But I think you may as well stick with what you have if you like it and it already bothers your throat. V4L runs warmer, the carto flavors sometimes have a sharper edge - some people like that. I use them mostly with blanks and put my own juices bought elsewhere in them and use a couple of V4L juices too. if you stick with what you have, I recommend the manual batteries, and an atomizer & carts for testing juices w/o wasting a carto, and blank cartomizers. if you can find a drip tip for RN4081 atty (hard to find if exists) then with a manual battery you could drip to test flavors.

Vapor4Life (KR808D-1 which is also SmokeTip, Cig2o, Cig2go, V2, and Bloogplanet has the same threading), is the other slim ecig with lots of prefilled cartos. Other than that there are no good slim models with lots of prefilled cartomizers. KR808D-1 also has an upgrade path to fat battery models w/ super long charge.

But the threading with the most stuff is 510. More people use 510 threading than anything else.

What are you missing:
(and you can have some this 1,2,3 with the model you have, 4 maybe, 5 w/ adapter)
#1 The world of hundreds and hundreds of ejuices
#2 more variety of cartomizer types
#3 manual battery for more control of your hit, safer from juice damage
#4 dripping
#5 fat battery or mods w/ super-long charge that can natively use your cartos

 

[captcpu]

V4L Stealth bats are "cig size" but look way cooler without the LED. Welcome to vaping, BTW! You're gonna have a lot of fun and tasty vapes ahead of ya.

Not a doctor, but... remember that you're vaping PG/VG, some water, some flavor, a bit of nic and... that's about it. As all those chemicals from cigs flush out of your body, there could be some side effects. Just like if you quite cold turkey. If it becomes a concern, switch juice. If it gets to be a real concern, consult a physician!

As much as I love the 808, I'll go along with most in this thread and say that it sounds like what you want is an Ego, Vgo, Igo, whatever Go... Great links and review in the forums here at ECF. If it gets overwhelming, grab a good quality Ego, some cartomizers, juice and an atomizer from a reputable vendor you find linked here at ECF and enjoy! You won't go wrong and it's a great place to start.

Good luck!

Edit: Ok I'll pimp a vendor because I order from them all the time and they're the local guys... Vapor Kings sells a nice Ego kit and all the other paraphernalia you'd need to make it go zing!

 

[diy_darryl]

I knew a bit about PV's from my brother and surfing ECF. Stopped at a mall kiosk and listened to the lying salesman and looked at his basic stuff for 3X the price. Ran from that place, got home and ordered 2 EGO starter kits and supplies from a supplier listed here. Only been vaping for 2 full days but it's going great with the all day long battery on the ego. I am using about 3 carts a day which I refill as I go, takes seconds to do. Feel FREE from the analogs and can breathe better already! Ready to expand my horizons with some different juices soon.

Good Luck!

 

[BB3]

Genebob, I started with a blu. While it didn't totally bite and was a kind of proof of concept experiment, I realized immediately it was not the device to get me off analogs. So, I came here(wonderful place with magnificent people) and after many hours of research got and Ego-T. Now there's various attitudes about the device on the forum but it worked for me--Tuesday will be 4 weeks--and I haven't had cravings to speak of. You can get them from lots of vendors--I used CigNot, which has the advantage of shipping so fast it seems like you place the order and the doorbell rings--but there are many fine vendors in the suppliers forums.

You can spend as much or as little as you want--and probably will eventually want a mod. I just got my first--the world's only pistachio Phidias--and love it a lot.

You'll find it--just keep tryin'

 

[MattZuke]

1. I see a lot of posts about atomizers and cartomizers and flux capacitors, and am a little overwhelmed ... I intend to look more into it but my main question is... how are these fancy gizmos any better than the NJOY thing I'm doing now?

Probably most of them. RN4081 I "believe" is a super mini or a peewee. The design doesn't lend itself well to general use.

E-cig economics - Battery cost : electronic_cigarette

3. I also saw an ad for "blu" and was thinking of ordering those but wondered if they are any good?

Blu (l88) is going to be in the same class. The build quality is actually quite good, the cartridges (cartomizers) resolve the major issue of liquid not getting wasted. But the simple reality of the situation is the batteries are too small to be an adequate cigarette replacement. Even if you consider this class with the recharging pack, there are more modern versions that take direct USB thus not needing their special plug. The Volcano is a good example, not that I'd suggest that, maybe the Magma Revolver is one example of something slightly cheaper than Blu, but sporting 180mA batteries.

The V4L suggestion is sound. They've got style and function. They use cartomizers which can be topped off with bulk fluid. I still use my KR808D-1 style from time to time, and might bother one of these days and order some of their stylish short batteries.

The Riva 510 eGo style is more practical, if a little bulky. Sporting 750mAh batteries, a pair should last a heavy user through out the day and then some. The value is so good at under $40 shipped. I opted for the T-Rex personally. Costs a little more but sports a 900mAh battery, optional 1100mAh. The Riva is so cheap that the smaller batteries beat the cost of operation of the T-Rex, but I think the T-Rex looks cooler.

 

[DaDoc]

Welcome to the forum mate,

everyone has giving you great information on your questions already i would just like to add my piece about blu just say no lol. I got one just to try it sense everyone at work had one when i was using a big battery mod gave it a shot just to have something small to carry while im out and about and let me tell you. the taste isn't the great and the battery doesn't last near long enough but on the plus side it does have great vapor production. and a nice pcc but you could always just get volcano e-cigs Magma i liked that a whole lot better.

Vape On

 

[BotchedAutopsy]

1. Everyone is a little overwhelmed by the amount of lingo and "gizmos" when they get started. It'll get easier I promise. Ease of use, juice capacity, and flavor are the major differences from what you are using now.
2.If you are not sensitive to pg the wheeze/constriction will stop after a while. remember vaping is a little like learning to smoke for the first time. I don't remember my first cigarette making me feel wonderful either.
3. I'd stay away from the blu as well. there are many starter kits that'll serve you much better. I'm a 510 guy so if you want to stay with a kit I'd suggest the ego style kits they are inexpensive and flexible