New to vaping again

[Opinionated]

You are going to need a separate setup to test your recipes. The nano's or any clearomizer are designed to be used for any 3.5 - 3.7 volt battery, which we use universally in vaping. The coil resistance of the nano's are 2.4 ohm, so they aren't going to stress ANY battery. You could even put one on a cigalike battery, as long as the cigalike has a 510 connector. So I don't understand what you mean it wouldn't meet your needs well.

You're using a pod system for everyday vaping which uses replaceable pods exclusively. You won't be able to sample or test your flavors easily with any pod system. That's why I said you are going to need one setup to test flavors and another one to vape all day.

This is an honest question..

Those old old 650mah egos, are they 3.7v?

I know things like the old vision spinners are, and of course the new pen style batteries like the uwell whirl or the geekvape flint.

But I was thinking those little 4 dollar egos weren't that powerful?

I could always be wrong.. but it seems that non rebuildable dripper description states that it will stress those really old egos, but not things like the spinner..

this is the concern, to my understanding.

 

[HigherStateD]

I'm not sure about eGo batteries, but iirc, the 510 runs at 3.2, where as the 901/808 batteries ran at the full 3.7v. the 510 atty was 2.2-2.4ohm where as the 901 original/808 carts were 2.7v. that's why the original 510 passthrough was actually a battery, where as the 901/808 didn't... The 808 restricts voltage, where as the 901 atties, at least the regular non low ohm ones, could take 5v at USB amperages without popping or dying prematurely. I had one that ran for a month and a half of chain vaping that way. Prob put 500ml of juice through it. My current thinking is get a couple of Cisco atties to see how they work, and a couple of Dse originals, and a passthrough, either bought or radio shack special... Hell, when I first started and both batteries I had needed charging, I took a RCA style plug, cut of the tip to be level with the fins, bent the fins in to fit in the atty, and wired it to a USB... Cheap, but effective... But it looks like fastech has a few things that might work...

 

[Baditude]

Those old old 650mah egos, are they 3.7v?

I know things like the old vision spinners are, and of course the new pen style batteries like the uwell whirl or the geekvape flint.

But I was thinking those little 4 dollar egos weren't that powerful?

I could always be wrong.. but it seems that non rebuildable dripper description states that it will stress those really old egos, but not things like the spinner.

I was just trying to apply some Ohm's Law without actually doing the math. I assumed it was matter of voltage and resistance compatibility.

The vendor selling the non-rebuildable dripper attys recommends not using them on low powered batteries, so I imagine they've had issues with that combination in the past. Maybe I'm wrong, but I understood that to mean no ciga-like batteries.

I know the old cartomizers and clearomizers used with the old eGo batteries were 2 and 3 ohm atomizers, so I took it for granted that any atomizer of a "standard resistance" would work on them. The non-rebuildable atty that I linked previously was 2.0 ohm, so I assumed they would work on any 3.7 volt battery, too.

Now the Vision Nano clearomizers I also recommended were designed to be used on an eGo battery, so they should definitely work on any eGo-type battery. Their resistance are 2.4 ohm. I've seen people use the nanos on ciga-likes in place of a cartomizer. But the OP has since said he doesn't want to use a clearomizer, so my point is moot.

I don't know if some of the old original eGo batteries were 3.7 volts, or lower, to be truthful. I skipped that phase when I began vaping. I went from cigalikes to a mech mod using a 3.7 volt external lithium battery.

 

[Opinionated]

The vendor selling the non-rebuildable dripper attys recommend not using them on low powered batteries, so I imagine they've had issues with that combination in the past.

The old cartomizers and clearomizers used with the old eGo batteries were 2 and 3 ohm atomizers, so I took it for granted that any atomizer of a "standard resistance" would work on them. The non-rebuildable atty that I linked previously was 2.0 ohm, so I assumed they would work on any 3.7 volt battery.

Now the Vision Nano clearomizers were designed to be used on an eGo battery, so they should definitely work on any eGo-type battery. Their resistance are 2.4 ohm. I've seen people use the nanos on ciga-likes in place of a cartomizer.

I don't know if some of the old original eGo batteries were 3.7 volts, or lower, to be truthful. I skipped that phase when I began vaping. I went from cigalikes to a mech mod using a 3.7 volt lithium battery.

I started on an ego with a CE4 I got on eBay, and they had a hard time running the ce4 a good portion of the time.. but that was probably a knock off, as most things on eBay are..

but it did get me off the smokes.. I went from that to the xcube 2 haha.. went right back to egos for a little while after that before I ventured out again.. lol

I've never used a carto..

 

[HigherStateD]

Unfortunately, my knowledge of Vapes is really dated. I've only had 901s, 808s, and briefly, a Kanger eSmart. my only "mod" was a 905. When I say a standard resistance atty, I was specifying the DSE/SLB 901, as I feel the connector and atty design are better suited for dripping. The connector is designed to not leak into the battery, and the atty has a collar to guide in aiming the drops, and catching errant drops. Also, based on my experience with the rock, I'd say it heats about as well as a DSE 901 on a 3.7, where as on 5, the 901 acts more like a 510 on 3.2... which is to say hotter. So not only is the 901 better for drop testing, but closer to my goal of coming close to the performance of my every day vape.

 

[Opinionated]

Unfortunately, my knowledge of Vapes is really dated. I've only had 901s, 808s, and briefly, a Kanger eSmart. my only "mod" was a 905. When I say a standard resistance atty, I was specifying the DSE/SLB 901, as I feel the connector and atty design are better suited for dripping. The connector is designed to not leak into the battery, and the atty has a collar to guide in aiming the drops, and catching errant drops. Also, based on my experience with the rock, I'd say it heats about as well as a DSE 901 on a 3.7, where as on 5, the 901 acts more like a 510 on 3.2... which is to say hotter. So not only is the 901 better for drop testing, but closer to my goal of coming close to the performance of my every day vape.

@Baditude is going to come the closest to knowing what your talking about..

I've never seen a 901 or an 808, let alone used one, although I'm sure I've seen pictures, any reference is lost on me. I've been vaping almost 5 years, and those were gone before I started vaping..

a 510 is a connection between your mod and the atty. It's a universal connection now whether your sub ohm vaping at 100 watts or above ohm vaping at 8... While an ego has a 510 connection, it's called an ego connection because its different.. It's called something smart but I don't recall.

What your going to be looking for in an atty is a restricted or tight mouth to lung.. above ohm, device.

almost every mod made is VW, so you just set the mod to whatever wattage you prefer, even if it's a dual battery mod as most mods start their wattage range below 10 watts.

your only concerns beyond whether the draw of an atty will be tight enough for you and powered low enough, is whether it will fit on whatever mod your wanting to put it on.. i.e. you can't put a 25mm atty on a 22mm mod, as you'll have overhang. So know your dimensions before buying

The only exceptions to all the above are the pod mods..

Good luck.

 

[HigherStateD]

To me, there is a difference between a 510, and a 510 connector. The 510 connector is now the VHSof vaping... Betamax, aka the 901/808/4075 connector is far superior. More or less the direct inverse of the 510. Iirc, saleibo pattented first, and joyetech had to modify the design significantly enough to not infringe. The Dse worked out of the box very well, and the joyetech needed constant tinkering to get right, but that lead to innovations and flooding the market with cheap last year's models, so the market saturation caused it to win out


As for talk of mods, batteries and such, I'm trying to not use any of that... I'm trying to use an atty without a battery. .

 

[Opinionated]

To me, there is a difference between a 510, and a 510 connector. The 510 connector is now the VHSof vaping... Betamax, aka the 901/808/4075 connector is far superior. More or less the direct inverse of the 510. Iirc, saleibo pattented first, and joyetech had to modify the design significantly enough to not infringe. The Dse worked out of the box very well, and the joyetech needed constant tinkering to get right, but that lead to innovations and flooding the market with cheap last year's models, so the market saturation caused it to win out


As for talk of mods, batteries and such, I'm trying to not use any of that... I'm trying to use an atty without a battery. .

Most people who tried vaping when it first came out and were unsuccessful, are coming back and loving the new vape gear. It's powered properly and works excellent.

You won't be disappointed.

 

[Baditude]

As for talk of mods, batteries and such, I'm trying to not use any of that... I'm trying to use an atty without a battery.

Good luck with that idea.

 

[NolaMel]

Yeah, stuff has changed a lot, and in someways, stayed similar. I even remember a few pod style devices back then, although not called that. I guess other than ccell carts, I'm not going to find much in the way of cheap disposable attys. Is there a drop in or tank that a 180-280maH pen style battery can power properly? I'm hoping to come close to power output of what ever pod I end up using, most likely the smok Nord. If it requires inserting coil wires to posts, or more power than a simple battery, or at worst, a USB could provide, it will probably be too costly, to fiddly to maintain for 20/400 vision, and spoil me on flavor. Also, my arms aren't capable of comfortably lifting something that weighs much more than a 5" Android for more than a few puffs... Something much heavier than a few Oz is a nonstarter. Thanks again.

You may want to consider this. It’ll be released in a couple weeks. It has audible and visual battery level signals (they can be turned off) and the coil drops into the bottom of the pod, airflow can also be adjusted. The zenith coil has been very popular. Z-BIIP Kit - Innokin

 

[Baditude]

As for talk of mods, batteries and such, I'm trying to not use any of that... I'm trying to use an atty without a battery.

You may want to consider this... Z-BIIP Kit - Innokin

Nope, that has a battery.

 

[HigherStateD]

Good luck with that idea.

Done it before, don't see why I can't again...

Most people who tried vaping when it first came out and were unsuccessful, are coming back and loving the new vape gear. It's powered properly and works excellent.

You won't be disappointed.

I doubt it... The 905 was too heavy for me 10 years ago, I'm ten years older now, and that only used a 14500 in the V2 I had

 

[Opinionated]

Done it before, don't see why I can't again...

you also failed before, because you went back to smoking.

just reminding you.

 

[HigherStateD]

you also failed before, because you went back to smoking.

just reminding you.

Because of dekang juice... And I already have modern equipment... The boulder rock...

 

[Opinionated]

Because of dekang juice... And I already have modern equipment... The boulder rock...

Don't take me wrong, but I see you as someone who is too concerned with recreating something your familiar with, instead of actually attempting to learn about and potentially experience what's really available.

I'm sure someday I'll be the same way, I have my vapocalypse box and someday I'll be the dinosaur, not caring what the kids are doing or what manufacturers are manufacturing.. lol.

We are what we are in the end.. but I do hope you walk into a real good vape shop someday, and not a dispensary, and see some of the gear, hold it, realize how small some of it is, how ergonomic others are..

But I do wish you the best..

 

[HigherStateD]

Don't take me wrong, but I see you as someone who is too concerned with recreating something your familiar with, instead of actually attempting to learn about and potentially experience what's really available.

I'm sure someday I'll be the same way, I have my vapocalypse box and someday I'll be the dinosaur, not caring what the kids are doing or what manufacturers are manufacturing.. lol.

We are what we are in the end.. but I do hope you walk into a real vape shop someday, and not a dispensary.

I did. Had a great conversation with the owner. That's where picked up the boulder. We commiserated for almost 2 hours over the 901 loosing out. So what do you suggest for someone that has had arthritis since the age of six, so anything bigger than a mini is out, cant use a cellphone with out a 7x magnifier, so making or installing atties in a deck is out, and wants to sample flavorings and make my own juices?

 

[Opinionated]

I did. Had a great conversation with the owner. That's where picked up the boulder. We commiserated for almost 2 hours over the 901 loosing out. So what do you suggest for someone that has had arthritis since the age of six, so anything bigger than a mini is out, cant use a cellphone with out a 7x magnifier, so making or installing atties in a deck is out, and wants to sample flavorings and make my own juices?

That non rebuildable dripper baditude linked to.. It's the only dripper I know of that's doesn't need to be built... I would just put it on something we know is 3.7v, like a vision spinner I'm sure would be compatible.

Or an ego with a larger battery might be. I have an ego two mega, and I'm fairly certain it would be powerful enough, although I'm not seeing the voltage anywhere on the packaging..

That is truly going to be the best you can do on a dripper..you just need to buy the right battery for it.

 

[HigherStateD]

That non rebuildable dripper baditude linked to.. It's the only dripper I know of that's doesn't need to be built... I would just put it on something we know is 3.7v, like a vision spinner I'm sure would be compatible.

Or an ego with a larger battery might be. I have an ego two mega, and I'm fairly certain it would be powerful enough, although I'm not seeing the voltage anywhere on the packaging..

That is truly going to be the best you can do on a dripper..you just need to buy the right battery for it.

I just found this;
dse 901 Dse901 T PassThrough Battery And Atomizer

Their security cert is weak for checkout, but I'll try calling them back tomorrow (got a recording). And they have Dse 901 atties for 10$ in a five pack... I'm hoping that it's a legit site.

 

[Opinionated]

I just found this;
dse 901 Dse901 T PassThrough Battery And Atomizer

Their security cert is weak for checkout, but I'll try calling them back tomorrow (got a recording). And they have Dse 901 atties for 10$ in a five pack... I'm hoping that it's a legit site.

I've never heard of them..

$12.29 GS-H2S / GS eGo II 2200mAh Rechargeable Mega Starter Kit - 1.5ml / 2.0ohm / USB charging cable at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

^^^ with a coupon code you can get 5% off..

and shipping is usually only a two or so dollar upgrade, although free is offered I always upgrade the shipping.

Shipping time takes two to three weeks.

I'm sorry, but I can't imagine being tied to the wall to vape..

 

[HigherStateD]

I've never heard of them..

$12.29 GS-H2S / GS eGo II 2200mAh Rechargeable Mega Starter Kit - 1.5ml / 2.0ohm / USB charging cable at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

^^^ with a coupon code you can get 5% off..

and shipping is usually only a two or so dollar upgrade, although free is offered I always upgrade the shipping.

Shipping time takes two to three weeks.

So you're suggesting I pick up the atties Baditude linked to, and an adapter and run it on batteries? THAT seems overly complicated. The kit I linked to doesn't require an adapter, or battery. I haven't given up hope that I can find one. I thought someone here might have known of a supplier that still had one.