New to vaping and need advise

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BrotherBob

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Thanks everyone,
I ordered joyetech Ego AIO D22 XL and joyetech bluberry 12 mg liquid, costed around 42$ including shipping...!
did I make a right choice :confused:
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Smart choice. Looks like the coils supplied are the only ones available (you can get great cloud production with non sub ohm devices too):
2 x BF SS316-0.6ohm MTL Coil
should give you (never vape this model) more than enough cloud because they are sub ohm coils. You will have to determine if the taste and cloud production is right for you, personally. Might want to read the pro's and con's of sub ohm coils (would not be too concerned about cost right now, you just need something to get a feel for vaping):
What Ohms should I choose?
Above-Ohm Vaping vs Sub-Ohm Vaping
Your battery/pen style mod is fixed watt output and not replaceable. This is good for a new vaper because you may not want get too carried away with too many settings. What you have bought may last you longer than before you decide to advance to the next levels of vaping. Vaping is not like smoking, a vaper can control and tailor the device to give almost exactly what is wanted.
$ 42 is about standard cost for US vendor. You want to keep all records of purchase if something goes wrong. Also note the warranty period.
 

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Anna,
I did look up at some of your suggestions but they seemed little expensive, I am not sure about how good and reliable the choice I made are, but if you have any other options for me I would like to consider them as well, SMOK has less reliable coils so I dropped it off. also just curious to know, what happens if I use a DL as MTL with little drags?
You may like it...hope so. Me, I'd never buy an AIO kit that I couldn't adjust wattage on. But many like the simplicity of just pushing a button and adjusting their draw to get the hit they want.
Fasttech has the Zelos I'd recommended for a dollar more than you paid.

edit: Oh, and you can take whatever kind of hit is comfortable on any setup you want, no worries. Just whatever you like. There's not a hard distinction between MTL "type" setups and DL setups. Generally, people just take in more volume at higher wattages when doing direct lung - but you don't have to.
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any thoughts about Joyetech CuBox 50W AIO kit, will this better than Joyetech D22
About the same thing from what I can determine. I doubt a 2000mah battery will last you all day using sub-ohm coils (which really drain battery power). It is not variable power, it is a fixed output device. You won't be able to adjust the vapor like you could with a variable wattage mod. For example, I like a cooler vape (30 watts) earlier in the day, and later in the day I like a warmer vape (40 watts). I couldn't do that with a fixed wattage setup.

Personally, I'd suggest a variable power (regulated) device that uses external (removable) batteries. With the devices you are considering, once the battery is drained you can't continue vaping until the internal battery is charged again. That could be 3 - 4 hours or more.

If you go with a variable power regulated mod, it doesn't matter if you use standard or sub-ohm coils/tanks. You just have much more ability to adjust the vapor to whatever you are using and to your personal preferences (which you may not even know yet).

If you used external batteries, you'd just pop in a spare charged battery into the device and continue vaping. This system will cost more innitially because you have to also buy a box battery charger ($20) and a couple of external batteries ($12), but you'll save money for the long term. Units that use an internal battery will become a useless paperweight once the battery dies (about one year) and you have to buy a whole new setup. Units that use external batteries, when the batteries die you just replace them (about $6 each) and continue to use the old mod.

Considering the above factors, I feel the additional cost is worth it. The choice is yours to make.

I understand folks don't want to spend more money than they need to, and sometimes we just don't have the money to buy the things we want. Novices sometimes balk at the price it costs to start vaping. I counter that you will need to determine how much you spend per month on cigarettes to help justify startup costs.

At $5 - $10 a pack, a pack-a-day smoker spends $150 to $300 a month to smoke. With that budget in mind, you should be able to find a reasonably priced setup with most of the bells & whistles. Then consider that once you have your gear or hardware, your subsequent costs per month will be only for replacement coils for your tanks and e-liquid (about $70 - $90 a month). You'll be saving money when you are vaping.
 
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I don't mean to put you off the starter kit you chose, it's totally a fine place to start and inexpensive which is what you need.

I can't really pull off MTL vaping in a sub0hm tank myself, honestly airflow and wattage needs to get a vape really preclude it. If that's the kit you've chosen, that's great. I didn't vape it BECAUSE I wanted to give it to a new vaper and FOR me it may be a little flimsy, but keep in mind I have a fine motor tremor and ADHD. You're most likely going to be fine. You may want something else down the line and backups are good, so just file away other suggestions for when you want to get a second vape.

I seriously, seriously am clumsy, and I mean that. Which is the ONLY reason I didn't try that kit, that plus I wanted it to be "new" to the person I gave it to... Who likes it a great deal, BTW.

Sorry if you took that as a "don't buy it" that wasn't my intention.

Anna
 

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As many have mentioned, a vv or vw device is just a better option and one that most new vapors eventually do get...hopefully this device will work for you, but if or when look for another, you simply cannot go wrong with the nautilus line of tanks and their coils...but who knows, your next move could be a sub tank doing dtl, but if not, the nautilus or nautilus 2 are really proven tanks

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I use the joytech aio with a 1.5 ohm coil and like it very much. I also think you made a good buy because not alot of things to adjust so try it and see what you like about it and what you don't like and make a more informed buy the next time. Plus you can still use it as a back up.
 

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I use the joytech aio with a 1.5 ohm coil and like it very much. I also think you made a good buy because not alot of things to adjust so try it and see what you like about it and what you don't like and make a more informed buy the next time. Plus you can still use it as a back up.
Thanks, what eliquid are you using, vg/pg ratio? How long does your coil last? The one that I ordered comes with 0.6 ohms coil. And motley brew e liquid with 70-30 vg/oh. Will see how long it lasts and will update..
 
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Finally, I got my Joyetech AIO D22 XL and I must say after experience with Blu this one feels extra ordinary, I used motley brew (brews brothers) 70/30 VG/PG. good amount of vapor for me but it was too sweet for me. then I bought VaporFI American red tobacco ejuice with 50-50 but I dint like it at all. it was more like a chemical. I washed the coil after a week of use but when I opened it for washing second time after another week, I found some ash in the mouth piece, probably time to replace the coil. battery lasts almost 2 days for me and consumes one filling of 3 ml per day. but sometime I find that liquid comes into mouthpiece. I keep the air flow to max. but most importantly this is keeping me away from cigarettes. glad I found ECF and thanks to all of you for advices. I would be looking to upgrade sometime soon with your help again. meanwhile can anyone please suggest some good tobacco flavor ejuice which will be close to cigarette, these flavors are too sweet for me.
 

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If you haven't, you could try some Naturally Extracted Tobacco juice, which is made from real tobacco. There are many vendors and I think a dedicated thread in the e-liquids forum. Some of them can be quite gunky, not all, although they do add that extra factor, but they tend to be more true to "tobacco" flavors, at least some of them.

Good luck finding a juice you really enjoy! I got a few NETs from Heather's Heavenly Vapes for the husband but I haven't vaped them as I don't really enjoy tobacco flavors, but he seems to like them...

Anna
 
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