New to vaping, feedback on first ecig?

[sincerelysasquatch]

So I am a pack-a-day Cloves smoker and am deciding to quit because of my 3 month old son. I had tried blu ecigs before and hated them so I decided to go to an ecig shop and try to get something of quality. I want to know how I did, as I don't know a lot about ecigs.

I got an ego t2, with a clear plastic kanger t2 clearomizer tank. The eliquids the shop carried are touted as "all natural" and are vg based only, no pg. They started me on their "high" level of nicotene eliquid, with a nicotene content of 1.8. I got a bottle of clove flavor and a bottle of coconut flavor. I asked what the strength of the battery is, I was referring to mah and he replied and said it is 4, which must not be referring to mah. What would that be referring to?

I bought a starter kit with 2 ecigs, charger, and two replacement wick pieces for $99. The liquids were an additional $10 ea. My friend who used to manage an ecig shop, who was unable to accompany me like we had planned, said she wouldn't have paid more than $80 for the kit.

Is this a decent ecig setup for a beginner?I'm fairly satisfied with it, never having smoked a quality ecig before with nothing to compare it to I like the throat hit but would prefer a little more vapor. Sometimes I get a nice amount of vapor, depending how I hit it, and I hope this aspect will improve as I get more used to vaping.

 

[Steam Turbine]

Hi welcome to ecf,

Although a little bit dated, it is a decent kit, but as your friend mentioned, expensive.

For that price you should of had a "twist" feature on it allowing you to adjust the voltage output of the battery. The t2's are pretty old, there are way better options for cheap clearos nowadays. The t3's are better... the protanks... aspire... These would have been better options....

But that's fine.... It's all trials and error. We all went through it.

Anyhow.... what you have now is way better than the blu you used to have.

I asked what the strength of the battery is, I was referring to mah and he replied and said it is 4

That doesn't mean anything.

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

Yeah, I don't think I'll go back there. It was the owner of the shop I was speaking to and I don't think he knew what he was talking about. I'm guessing the nic level is 18, not 1.8, and I have no idea where the 4 came from when I asked him for the mah. Is the t2 compatible with vg-only eliquids? I've read some ecigs are better for vg than others. Without anything to compare it to, I am satisfied with it and haven't hardly wanted an analog since buying it yesterday.

 

[Steam Turbine]

He was probably referring to percentage... a 18mg liquid is a 1.8% liquid.

As for the t2, it should work fine with pg or vg..maybe not as good with 100% vg but it should still work fine.

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

My vape shop manager friend said the liquid looks too runny to be 100 percent vg, but they claim to not use pg. What else might be in it that would cause it to be runny? They claim their eliquids are 100 percent natural.

 

[MorpheusPA]

It's a good place to start--and a good place to stay if you find it does the job for you. I use a similar device, quite dated at this point, as my daily go-to. It's reliable, easy to use, and a total no-brainer.

As noted, you paid a bit much for it, but at this point you can always purchase any eGo-style battery off any Web site and it'll work with your items. Even the monstrous batteries should be in the $25 range per. Just for-instance as I don't use this company, a quick search turned up a 1,000 mAh T2 passthrough for $22: eGo- T2 upgrade USB Passthrough Battery

Battery 4? That doesn't make much sense. If you post a photo we could tell you, but your battery is probably 650 mAh (some online sources claim 750 mAh for the battery). It could be 1,000 mAh.

Regarding the inconsistent hit, there's a definite learning curve. In a few days you should have that down pat, although any delivery device will vary hits all on its own. I swear mine are weather-sensitive and tend to hit wet when the air pressure drops too fast.

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

Also something else im wondering about... my friends says 4v is very low and she vapes on 11v. But from my reading, 4v is pretty standard or even on the higher side of standard. Can someone clear that up for me?

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

I think the 4 referred to the volts, not the mah. Not sure about the mah. Ill post a pic

 

[MorpheusPA]

My vape shop manager friend said the liquid looks too runny to be 100 percent vg, but they claim to not use pg. What else might be in it that would cause it to be runny? They claim their eliquids are 100 percent natural.

Water. Some people use distilled water to thin out VG liquids a bit. They can be kind of thick if anhydrous VG was used, and that can lead to a dry hit (it tastes like burning) that's unpleasant.

While others use PGA, I'm not sure if that would fit under the organic tag line. Possibly, the stuff is produced by bacteria...it's like inebriating yoghurt.

 

[xxbrad13]

I bought the VZ ego C4 and love it so far. I am planning on upgrading once I get a hang of this whole e cig business

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[sincerelysasquatch]

Here's a pic:
http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy228/sincerelysasquatch/CAM00577_zps75d91eec.jpg
Can anyone guess the mah? The guy assured me the battery would easily last all day and I haven't had to charge either of them yet, although i have been alternating between the two (one has clove, one has coconut)

 

[MorpheusPA]

Also something else im wondering about... my friends says 4v is very low and she vapes on 11v. But from my reading, 4v is pretty standard or even on the higher side of standard. Can someone clear that up for me?

11 V? That's almost ridiculously high; most VV (variable voltage) models top out at 5 or 6, although there are exceptions. Perhaps she meant 11 watts? That's a reasonable number.

4 V is actually kind of high for a single-voltage moderated battery--I don't know about the eGo T2, but the standard eGo moderates at 3.2 V if I remember correctly. My particular model moderates at 3.6 V.

There's a chart, and it depends on the resistance of your atomizer. In my particular case, I prefer 2 to 2.2Ω atomizers.

At 3.6 V and assuming a 2.2Ω atomizer, I'm vaping at 1.63 A. That works out to 5.9 watts.

That works for me. Most hobbyists find that to be a little on the thin and cool side, but I like it.

If you want, research Ohm's Law and find out where all those numbers came from. It can make your head whirl for a while, but if you really want to understand what your battery and atomizer are doing, that will help you.

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

How does smoking an overall higher voltage compared to an overall lower voltage? I am thinking of upgrading to a variable voltage battery, from my reading I had planned on purchasing a variable voltage but the store owner talked me into this one lol

 

[MorpheusPA]

Yeah, I don't think I'll go back there. It was the owner of the shop I was speaking to and I don't think he knew what he was talking about. I'm guessing the nic level is 18, not 1.8, and I have no idea where the 4 came from when I asked him for the mah. Is the t2 compatible with vg-only eliquids? I've read some ecigs are better for vg than others. Without anything to compare it to, I am satisfied with it and haven't hardly wanted an analog since buying it yesterday.

Sorry, I really should be combining quotes to give you a coherent, single-message answer.

Your T2 will work perfectly with PG liquids, VG liquids, and anything in between (I personally use a 50% PG, 50% VG liquid).

Some toppers (atomizers and liquid holders) function a bit better with one or the other, but many don't care. My chosen topper, a Kanger T3 clearo, tends to leak a bit using pure PG liquids. A mix is better as the thicker liquid won't leak.

A nic level of 1.8% and 18 mg/ml are identical. Around here, we tend to use mg/ml, but you'll also see the percentage.

Before you ask, that's a good place to start. If you experience nicotine withdrawal, vape more or use a higher nicotine liquid.

If you experience nicotine overdose (nausea, intense headache that fades out fast, dizziness, heart palpitations), vape less and consider a lower nicotine liquid.

I started at 22 mg/ml (2.2%), and I've worked my way down to 5 mg/ml (0.5%) over time. You may or may not choose to do that, and either decision is just fine around here.

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

Maybe it's because I've never tried better but I do like this thing a lot so far. My son goes to his grandparent's on weekends so I was thinking of smoking analogs then and using the vape when he is with me, and I did smoke some analogs when I had somefriends over last night, but I'm notreally craving them since getting the ecig and I think I'll just quit all together to avoid any cravings coming back. Sorry for typoes, my phone is misbehaving.

But I would like to try a variable voltage battery, as I've heard different juices taste better at different voltages and I'd like to try different juices.

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

Thanks for all the help guys! anyone wanna take a shot at the mah from the picture?

 

[Legolas]

Here's a pic:
http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy228/sincerelysasquatch/CAM00577_zps75d91eec.jpg
Can anyone guess the mah? The guy assured me the battery would easily last all day and I haven't had to charge either of them yet, although i have been alternating between the two (one has clove, one has coconut)

Measure it. Ego batteries 4.75 inches from top to bottom are 1100 mah 3.75 inches are 650mah. hope that helps

 

[MorpheusPA]

Here's a pic:
http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy228/sincerelysasquatch/CAM00577_zps75d91eec.jpg
Can anyone guess the mah? The guy assured me the battery would easily last all day and I haven't had to charge either of them yet, although i have been alternating between the two (one has clove, one has coconut)

I'm guessing 1,000 from the relationship of the topper to the battery. It wouldn't surprise me to find out it's somewhat lower as your device is more trim than the one I'm comparing it to...but the one I'm comparing it to is a 1,300 to begin with.

If you're an "average" (no such thing!) vaper, that's about 10 hours of "average" vaping before recharging. The average vaper, as we define it, seems to be somewhat heavier than the real-world average, but we're hobbyists.

If it were me, I could kill that battery in about 6 hours. I'm a really heavy vaper and I and my vape are almost never separated. If I could figure out how to vape in the shower without shorting the battery, I probably would...

For a light vaper, it would last all day.

How does smoking an overall higher voltage compared to an overall lower voltage? I am thinking of upgrading to a variable voltage battery, from my reading I had planned on purchasing a variable voltage but the store owner talked me into this one lol

Vaping, not smoking. You quit smoking yesterday by the sound of it (be very, very proud of yourself, it's difficult, but don't knock yourself out if you smoke some over the next few weeks).

Higher voltages result in more power going through the atomizer, which will create a larger cloud of vapor and warmer vapor. For that reason, many people are fans of the variable voltage devices as they can adjust their setting on the fly to whatever they want at that moment. Higher voltages will drain a battery faster than a lower setting, but within most people's normal ranges it's not that extreme.

Setting voltage too high will result in a burned taste. Setting them way too high may pop your atomizer, destroying it. I'm not sure of your atomizer's resistance, so I can't tell you a safe range.

Setting voltage too low will result in a thin, cold cloud of vapor which might be unsatisfying.

The Vision Spinner and the eGo Twist are both excellent, inexpensive, low learning curve variable voltage (VV) devices.
Most atomizers will be perfectly fine across the entire range of these devices, although very low setting may be too cold and thin, and very high settings may taste burned. With any liquid, experimentation to find the sweet spot is the key.

 

[MorpheusPA]

Maybe it's because I've never tried better but I do like this thing a lot so far. My son goes to his grandparent's on weekends so I was thinking of smoking analogs then and using the vape when he is with me, and I did smoke some analogs when I had somefriends over last night, but I'm notreally craving them since getting the ecig and I think I'll just quit all together to avoid any cravings coming back. Sorry for typoes, my phone is misbehaving.

But I would like to try a variable voltage battery, as I've heard different juices taste better at different voltages and I'd like to try different juices.

Contrary to what a lot of really into it hobbyists will say, there is nothing wrong with a basic eGo. Millions of people quit smoking using them, and still use them to this day. They're easy to use, total no-brainers in terms of settings, and revoltingly reliable.

Only you can decide what quit method--if you do quit--is best for you. Your plan sounds reasonable to me, however.

Some of us (like me) quit. Some use it as harm reduction and just try to minimize the number of analogs smoked. Others use it for fun and still smoke as well. If it keeps you from smoking some cigarettes, that's a net health increase.

 

[sincerelysasquatch]

It must not be an ego battery then, the battery itself measures only a teensy bit over 3".I'm not sure if it's officially an ego, he just referred to it as a t2.

Measure it. Ego batteries 4.75 inches from top to bottom are 1100 mah 3.75 inches are 650mah. hope that helps