New vape system suggestions please

[BrotherBob]

We have been fairly happy with the 900 mAh Vapor Zeus dual mode battery but I hate the way we are stuck with the 808D threading which has basically left us with only the one option for the tank (well, with 2 sizes, 3.5 & 6 ml) which uses the undependable cartomizers and the tanks are not consistant (some leak, some don't work well and tastes burnt. The size we use is slightly over 5" and becomes nearly 8" long with a tank and tip. I do like the plastic drip tips. They feel best on my mouth. Although I have broken several tips when my ecig falls off my lap when I get up and hits the metal leg of computer stand. (I work all day on my computer at home) I should have learned better. :/ Neither of us liked the 'Smileomizer' that comes with the Zeus.
I thought someone said the Nautilus wasn't for me....and was a messy bottom fill.

Welcome and glad you joined. Years ago tried the Vape4life products and I think I know where you are at and what you want.
1. Simplicity and happy to vape same (2 or 3 flavors maybe) flavor for most of day. Not having to recharge frequently.
2 Cost, V4L is expensive so you are more willing to spend $ up front in order to save in having to pay on going cost.
3. Above all, you need dependability.
Got to go now but will be back (someone else can help) to see if I am correct. Is this what you are after?

 

[NewVap]

Welcome and glad you joined. Years ago tried the Vape4life products and I think I know where you are at and what you want.
1. Simplicity and happy to vape same (2 or 3 flavors maybe) flavor for most of day. Not having to recharge frequently.
2 Cost, V4L is expensive so you are more willing to spend $ up front in order to save in having to pay on going cost.
3. Above all, you need dependability.
Got to go now but will be back (someone else can help) to see if I am correct. Is this what you are after?

Yep. You're right. That's pretty much it. Except the only flavor we use is menthol (and only I use that, my husband doesn't use any flavor) and we DO want more vapor just not necessarily extremely HUGE clouds. Cost, quality, long lasting charge and lasting dependability are most important. * edit: and PASSTHROUGH charging! V4L is ridiculous with their battery costs. Most of the time it costs less to buy the kit, especially since we require the dual mode (for manual use) and the 900 mAh. I would probably order their even larger one if it wasn't so much bigger and more expensive.

 

[djsvapour]

I'm in the US and would prefer US websites. I'd actually prefer US products but that is not very realistic so not as big a deal.

Yes, of course. That's what I was trying to say. Aspire are better value on your side of the Ocean.
There aren't many US products, certainly not in the lower bracket of consumer-level e-cigs.
(Plenty of companies like to give the impression they are US.. but we won't go into that).

 

[BrotherBob]

Yep. You're right. That's pretty much it. Except the only flavor we use is menthol (and only I use that, my husband doesn't use any flavor) and we DO want more vapor just not necessarily extremely HUGE clouds. Cost, quality, long lasting charge and lasting dependability are most important. * edit: and PASSTHROUGH charging! V4L is ridiculous with their battery costs. Most of the time it costs less to buy the kit, especially since we require the dual mode (for manual use) and the 900 mAh. I would probably order their even larger one if it wasn't so much bigger and more expensive.

Battery: Eleaf Istick 40TC Will work more than a year and has everything you want for a tank that uses around 1.5 ohms.
Tank is the only tricky area. I would go with purchased coils, 1.5 ohms +/- .3 ohms.
I assume you are not interested in building your own coils so you need a tank that is not prone to leaking , easy to fill, and holds a moderate amount of liquid.
I vape RDA's only, so you might ask another question about which tanks fit your requirements.

 

[NewVap]

Battery: Eleaf Istick 40TC Will work more than a year and has everything you want for a tank that uses around 1.5 ohms.
Tank is the only tricky area. I would go with purchased coils, 1.5 ohms +/- .3 ohms.
I assume you are not interested in building your own coils so you need a tank that is not prone to leaking , easy to fill, and holds a moderate amount of liquid.
I vape RDA's only, so you might ask another question about which tanks fit your requirements.

Interesting info. Thanks. We have been looking only at large pen or eGo style batteries, but these boxes are getting more and more enticing. Drastic change is difficult. LOL

And no, we do not want to build anything. A simple tank that is not prone to leaking, easy to fill, and holds as much liquid as possible (since my husband is used to the 6ml from V4L) is definitely a requirement!! ... 1.5 ohms +/- .3 ohms sounds right to me.

 

[djsvapour]

Interesting info. Thanks. We have been looking only at large pen or eGo style batteries, but these boxes are getting more and more enticing. Drastic change is difficult. LOL

The iStick 40w was my daily mod for at least a year. Epic value i.m.o.
I tried out the Temp Control for about 10 minutes (as far as I'm concerned, not being able to stop a mod 'aiming' for 40w in conjunction with the temp control is not ideal)...
So, I've just used it with many types of tank in watts mode. They all worked, actually they all performed perfectly.
No quibbles on that mod. I never liked the look of the 30w, but it also worked superbly.

 

[NewVap]

I tried out the Temp Control for about 10 minutes (as far as I'm concerned, not being able to stop a mod 'aiming' for 40w in conjunction with the temp control is not ideal)...

I know nothing about temp control on an ecig. I assume you don't have to use it, but I'd be afraid I's somehow screw something up. :/
I'd probably prefer simple with little to no settings to deal with.

 

[djsvapour]

I know nothing about temp control on an ecig. I assume you don't have to use it, but I'd be afraid I's somehow screw something up. :/

No, you don't have to use it. I rarely bother. It works great with the latest high tech coils and/or homemade coils on a rebuildable atomizer.
I have been re-testing my old batch of Joyetech, Eleaf and Kanger temp control coils (basic ones, not the latest) and the results are staggeringly bad.
Mostly, mods come with it these days, but you're unlikely to accidentally use it.

 

[dennism]

We have been fairly happy with the 900 mAh Vapor Zeus dual mode battery but I hate the way we are stuck with the 808D threading which has basically left us with only the one option for the tank (well, with 2 sizes, 3.5 & 6 ml) which uses the undependable cartomizers and the tanks are not consistant (some leak, some don't work well and tastes burnt. The size we use is slightly over 5" and becomes nearly 8" long with a tank and tip. I do like the plastic drip tips. They feel best on my mouth. Although I have broken several tips when my ecig falls off my lap when I get up and hits the metal leg of computer stand. (I work all day on my computer at home) I should have learned better. :/ Neither of us liked the 'Smileomizer' that comes with the Zeus.

I thought someone said the Nautilus wasn't for me....and was a messy bottom fill.

 

[dennism]

We have been fairly happy with the 900 mAh Vapor Zeus dual mode battery but I hate the way we are stuck with the 808D threading which has basically left us with only the one option for the tank (well, with 2 sizes, 3.5 & 6 ml) which uses the undependable cartomizers and the tanks are not consistant (some leak, some don't work well and tastes burnt. The size we use is slightly over 5" and becomes nearly 8" long with a tank and tip. I do like the plastic drip tips. They feel best on my mouth. Although I have broken several tips when my ecig falls off my lap when I get up and hits the metal leg of computer stand. (I work all day on my computer at home) I should have learned better. :/ Neither of us liked the 'Smileomizer' that comes with the Zeus.

I thought someone said the Nautilus wasn't for me....and was a messy bottom fill.

The nautilus is great for mtl, if that is what you want. Now getting them apart for a refill is another matter.

 

[NewVap]

Mostly, mods come with it these days, but you're unlikely to accidentally use it.

Good to know. Thanks.
I asked earlier but I think the post got missed... There is no problem with using a standard tank setup (instead of a sub ohm) on something like a Subvod, right? I've been thinking the Endura or the Subvod (probably the smaller 1300 mAh but still somewhat considering the Mega). And now the iStick 40w might be in the mix. LOL

 

[NewVap]

The nautilus is great for mtl, if that is what you want. Now getting them apart for a refill is another matter.

Yeah I think mtl is what we want. (Long puff then inhale?) That's why I am not so sure we would be happy with subohm...from what I've read about that. I don't like the idea of difficulty getting them apart or difficult refills in any way. Simple simple simple. I don't have much time to deal with difficult or time consuming things like that.

 

[dennism]

Good to know. Thanks.
I asked earlier but I think the post got missed... There is no problem with using a standard tank setup (instead of a sub ohm) on something like a Subvod, right? I've been thinking the Endura or the Subvod (probably the smaller 1300 mAh but still somewhat considering the Mega). And now the iStick 40w might be in the mix. LOL

I have istick 30.40 and 50 watt and they work great. I also have 3 istick picos, about the same price as the others with replacable batteries, cheaper in the long run.

 

[NewVap]

I'd love to get an Endura, iStick 40, and a Subvod all 3, but I will probably have to put some off. I might go ahead and get 2 different ones...then try different tanks since I will finally have that capability with the 510.

I love the changeable battery part!

 

[OlderNDirt]

I'd love to get an Endura, iStick 40, and a Subvod all 3, but I will probably have to put some off. I might go ahead and get 2 different ones...then try different tanks since I will finally have that capability with the 510.

I love the changeable battery part!

I would strongly support that approach, especially if 2 or more in the household vape! And something that neither of you may like will still work very well as a back-up or in emergencies.

 

[medleypat]

My suggestion would be the subvod for you with a 1.2 ohm coil and the subvod mega with a 0.5 ohm coil for you ran the numbers and the watts are close to were you are now plus moves you into more modern devices. Would be a step up for both of you plus opens up more options for down the roups. Also a subvod and a pico kit give you a chance to try different set ups. The Mellon 3 tank that comes with the pico can use Nautilus/triton coils so just order some 1.8 ohm and your all good.

 

[NewVap]

My suggestion would be the subvod for you with a 1.2 ohm coil and the subvod mega with a 0.5 ohm coil for you ran the numbers and the watts are close to were you are now plus moves you into more modern devices. Would be a step up for both of you plus opens up more options for down the roups. Also a subvod and a pico kit give you a chance to try different set ups. The Mellon 3 tank that comes with the pico can use Nautilus/triton coils so just order some 1.8 ohm and your all good.

Thanks medleypat! Question - Did you mean the 1.2 ohm coil for me and the 0.5 ohm coil for my husband? Also I do want better than we have now (not too close to what we have now).

I am seriously thinking the Subvod 1300 mAh kit with the Toptank Nano and maybe an additional Nautilus tank, but I'm wondering if the Subvod Mega 2300mAh would be better (but not too much). And maybe an Endura backup. I'm thinking the Subvod would better than the Endura??

I'm also wondering about the volts. I see the subvod 1300 mAh is 3.7v while my Zeus is 5v. Is that an issue or should I be more concerned about the watts output for power/vape cloud? Sorry if that sounds stupid.

 

[djsvapour]

I'm also wondering about the volts. I see the subvod 1300 mAh is 3.7v while my Zeus is 5v. Is that an issue or should I be more concerned about the watts output for power/vape cloud? Sorry if that sounds stupid.

The output (watts) combining the battery and the resistance of the atomizer is basically what you have to consider.
The Zeus was beefed up (do you say that?) to 5 volts to get the watts higher than (what was then) a standard cig-a-like e-cig. It it worked!

The Subvod does 3.7v from start to finish. This makes is better i.m.o. than the batteries that start at 4.2v and drop down and down... for example some of the Joyetech versions.

If you use the 0.5ohm coil, you will get a 22-25 watt vape, depending on the exact resistance of the coil. That will seem quite strong vapor compared to a Zeus. (twice as much vapor probably).
The 1.2ohm coil will make a 11-12 watt vape and that could seem 'about the same' as the Zeus.

In the real world, I did try a pack of 1.2ohm coils (5 of them) in the tank on the Subvod. For me, it was too wispy and light. I'm not sure if that's because I am used to 14 watts or if the coils actually need more power. I fear I don't know, trying to be unbiased.

The thing about watts i.m.o. is this; (thinking out loud now...)

If you go from 10-15 watts, it's going to seem a big difference. A 15 watt vaper isn't going to like a 10 watt vape.
The difference between 30 and 35 watts is not a lot, other than maybe a liquid might just taste a little better on one setting.
The difference between 75 and 80 watts is almost imperceptible.

Think back 4 years. A really cheap plastic e-cig vaped at 4 watts (some more, some less)
You can imagine how amazing some systems seemed that vaped at 7 or 8 watts out of the packaging!

There was a company that made this amazingly big deal about their products using 4.2v batteries. You'd think (from the marketing) they sold simply the best e-cigs ever. It was just a pathetic U.S.P. that enabled them to charge double and seem like good guys.
They still sell this junk, even today, and nothing has changed, apart from the world around them which has improved beyond recognition. Basically, they became a 'rip-off' brand through not innovating or improving.
They are not the only ones.

 

[NewVap]

Oh djsvapour, that was extremely helpful! Thanks so much!

I am in the process of making myself a chart to compare with. Just making the chart has already been helpful. Somehow I keep going back to the Subvod (is that telling me something?)

 

[NewVap]

For my chart: The iStick 40w does not have a replaceable battery? But the iStick Pico does?