New Vapemail Ejuice bottles not full?

[jwag1973]

So today I received some Vapemail. It consisted of four-thirty ml bottles, from three separate venndors. Opened the first package from Goodlife Vapor-Deadly Sin, completely full. The second was AVE-Boba's, completely full. The third package was two-thirty ml bottles of different tobacco's I'd been anxiously awaiting, I'd say 3/4 way full each at best.I was slightly disappointed to say the least. This was my first purchase from this vendor after hearing nothing but positive feedback regarding them. I'm not here to bash them, obviously I didn't name them. I order all my juice online and these bottles are by far the lighest I've ever received. So my question is, do you find the same thing with different vendors? To be honest, most all the liquid I've received from my normal suppliers are pretty much full. Thanks for your feedback in advance!

EDIT: All bottles are the same dimensions!

 

[TCO76]

Were all 3 glass or was the one with less the only plastic?

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[theinlawjosie]

Some of the bottles I receive from a couple of vendors seem a bit light when compared to other vendors, however, some of those other vendors advertise their 30ml bottles as more than 30ml. I believe what you are seeing is a precise filling method - some vendors use precise, automated measuring devices to fill their bottles - you may be getting exactly 30ml with them while you are getting more like 32ml with some of the vendors who fill to the top. I don't know if that made any sense or not, but I hope it helped. Lol.

 

[RobinBanks]

Yeah, are you comparing different types of bottles or are they exactly the same bottle design? My GUESS is that you have the correct amount of juice in the bottles but the bottles are larger than 30ml in reality.

edit: yep, I've found what theinlawjosie said above to be very common too.

 

[jwag1973]

Were all 3 glass or was the one with less the only plastic?
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All the bottles were plastic. Side by side look identical, the caps being the only difference!

 

[TCO76]

Were all 3 glass or was the one with less the only plastic?
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All the bottles were plastic. Side by side look identical, the caps being the only difference!

Commented before I read other comments. I think above sounds likely. But still.

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[jwag1973]

It's not a big deal, mabe I've been getting a little extra all this time and now I'm spoiled.lol
Thanks for the insight, much appreciated.

EDIT: Neither of the bottles in question have the same amount in them. Who know's?

 

[erikbal]

I've only ordered from 1 online vendor so far (a very well known one around here) and every order I've gotten from them the bottles have been full to the top. I'm guessing I'm just getting a little extra.

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[CrunkVA]

I know Nicoticket fills my 50ml bottles all the way to the top... great juice and vendor. Highly recommend.

 

[vjc0628]

I think some vendors give more then the 30 ml

Nicoticket is one that overfills that I know

 

[Robino1]

I know HHV precisely fills their bottles. Their bottles are never full to the top.

 

[SharonMM]

I would be ticked. Sorry but, did you buy a 28 or 29ml bottle? No you did not. I'm not suggesting you make a stink of a ml or two, but vendors ought to be concerned about the presentation of their product. What does it look like for a consumer to receive a 3/4 full bottle? Pretty cruddy, imo. Corners got cut somewhere. Either they were negligent in the filling process, or they bought the wrong size bottles and just decided to use them anyways. And I don't think its right to expect the customer to be like "oh.. well, that's ok". No way man. Whomever you bought those bottles from needs to get it together. Just saying.

 

[theinlawjosie]

I would be ticked. Sorry but, did you buy a 28 or 29ml bottle? No you did not. I'm not suggesting you make a stink of a ml or two, but vendors ought to be concerned about the presentation of their product. What does it look like for a consumer to receive a 3/4 full bottle? Pretty cruddy, imo. Corners got cut somewhere. Either they were negligent in the filling process, or they bought the wrong size bottles and just decided to use them anyways. And I don't think its right to expect the customer to be like "oh.. well, that's ok". No way man. Whomever you bought those bottles from needs to get it together. Just saying.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here. As Robino pointed out above, HHV fills their bottle precisely and it makes it look like you are getting less than a full 30ml... HHV is one of my favorite vendors and I think it says a lot that they use precise measurements for every order. We all like to talk about consistency among vendors - this is part of that consistency... Would I like it if they overfilled their bottles? Obviously, but am I going to think less of them as a vendor because they don't look as full as others when I am getting exactly what I paid for? Nope! Moon Mountain Vapor advertises their 30ml bottle as 32ml - it is the same size bottle as HHV and other vendors' 30ml bottles, but they overfill and give you a couple extra ml. I have even seen some vendors address the space at the top of their bottles in their FAQ sections.

Of course, if the OP did get shorted a ml or two that's a completely different story.

 

[Ladiekali]

I would email the company. It happened to me one time with a vendor and they were appreciative and unaware, credited my account for the bottles not full and were apologetic and thankful to be informed and was contacting the distribution department and said that it was important qualiity control feedback

 

[Robino1]

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here. As Robino pointed out above, HHV fills their bottle precisely and it makes it look like you are getting less than a full 30ml... HHV is one of my favorite vendors and I think it says a lot that they use precise measurements for every order. We all like to talk about consistency among vendors - this is part of that consistency... Would I like it if they overfilled their bottles? Obviously, but am I going to think less of them as a vendor because they don't look as full as others when I am getting exactly what I paid for? Nope! Moon Mountain Vapor advertises their 30ml bottle as 32ml - it is the same size bottle as HHV and other vendors' 30ml bottles, but they overfill and give you a couple extra ml. I have even seen some vendors address the space at the top of their bottles in their FAQ sections.

Of course, if the OP did get shorted a ml or two that's a completely different story.

As I think about this, do the vendors that already have the liquids mixed (VG/PG/nic/flavoring) fill them to the top from a main batch? Or are they guessing the exact amounts of each PG/VG/Nic/flavor as it goes into each bottle? I honestly don't know how vendors mix their liquids. Since there are so many variations, it would stand to reason that each order needs to be mixed with precise measurements for each bottle.

I do know that HHV mixes when they receive the order. I ask for 8mg nic in the notes field and it has to be mixed when they get the order. That nic strength is not in the drop down menu. The jump from 12 to 6mg was just too big for me. I'm slowly getting down in nic.

I would rather have precise measures over overfilled bottles. Just my two cents.

 

[Barbara21]

As I think about this, do the vendors that already have the liquids mixed (VG/PG/nic/flavoring) fill them to the top from a main batch? Or are they guessing the exact amounts of each PG/VG/Nic/flavor as it goes into each bottle? I honestly don't know how vendors mix their liquids. Since there are so many variations, it would stand to reason that each order needs to be mixed with precise measurements for each bottle.

I do know that HHV mixes when they receive the order. I ask for 8mg nic in the notes field and it has to be mixed when they get the order. That nic strength is not in the drop down menu. The jump from 12 to 6mg was just too big for me. I'm slowly getting down in nic.

I would rather have precise measures over overfilled bottles. Just my two cents.

Actually, I would strongly suspect that HHV is mixing 2/3rds 6mg juice with 1/3rd 12mg juice to get your 8mg.

 

[Robino1]

Actually, I would strongly suspect that HHV is mixing 2/3rds 6mg juice with 1/3rd 12mg juice to get your 8mg.

I would agree, except they do mix when the order is placed. I can't imagine they have all the variations of PG/VG/Nic mg already mixed and in large batches. And then there's the fact that the Liquids all need airing/steeping.

EDIT: They do state that their liquids are mixed when you place your order.

 

[Rocketpunk]

I can't name the company I work for, but we sell pre-steeped juices in batches. They're mixed in large batches (not sure of the exact amount, but it's multiple liters) using proprietary formulas, then squeezed into shampoo sized bottles for the workers to squeeze into 10 and 30 ml bottles. This is a continual, never-ending process. Once a large batch is made it is steeped for exactly two weeks from the born on date and then bottled. Dates and lot numbers are included in every batch and bottle. The PG/VG ratio is fixed and cannot be "custom" made.

EDIT: The 10 and 30 ml bottles actually hold 12 and 32 mls respectively, and they're always filled to the top.

 

[Robino1]

I can't name the company I work for, but we sell pre-steeped juices in batches. They're mixed in large batches (not sure of the exact amount, but it's multiple liters) using proprietary formulas, then squeezed into shampoo sized bottles for the workers to squeeze into 10 and 30 ml bottles. This is a continual, never-ending process. Once a large batch is made it is steeped for exactly two weeks from the born on date and then bottled. Dates and lot numbers are included in every batch and bottle. The PG/VG ratio is fixed and cannot be "custom" made.

EDIT: The 10 and 30 ml bottles actually hold 12 and 32 mls respectively, and they're always filled to the top.

Thank you! I thought that those bottles actually hold more. Maybe to allow for expansion if some things need that room? I'm sure that those bottles were not made for e-liquid originally. I wonder if the makers of those bottles wondered what people were using them for. All of a sudden they get thousands of orders

 

[Rocketpunk]

They come from China!