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harleyrdr

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New to vaping. Someone told me to buy a ego-t with a Vision2 piece. I think it's also called a stardust. regardless of what someone calls it, it is terrible. It totally sucks. I mean really, it sucks. There's no vapor and it draws super hard. I find myself smoking tobacco cigs because this unit is just so useless. So what I need to know is if there's any other units I can use with this battery that will make big vapor? Huge vapor is what I'm after. I'm a 2 1/2 pack a day smoker so these little puffs of vapor don't really cut it. I need something that draws easy and makes huge vapor.

Should I toss this ego-t thing in the trash and start over? Or is there something else I can try that will fit the battery?

Please folks, I need some help. So, if you respond take the time to explain what you're talking about. All the slang verbiage I read does no good. I'm a newb that needs a good explanation of things. All I want is huge vapor and an easy draw that's similar to a tobacco cig. What I have just doesn't cut it and I would like to keep vaping if possible.
 

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Hey, I'm new myself. I have a 510 Joye with a Kanger carto and I get really great vapor and the draw is really easy. A lot of the people I work with swear by the Stardust and it works much better than mine. ( I work with Sailors. We drink, smoke and *Omitted* like sailors haha)
Without sounding pretentious but are you sure you are set up right? It shouldn't be difficult to draw.
On my mini set-up I get just as big hits as I do from analogue cigarettes.

If I were you I would double-check my set-up to make sure everything is working properly.

Cheers!
 

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Hi Harley!

The most important question! how many is the resistance your stardust?

normal 650-900-1100 eGo-T Battery prefer this application:

VO-MINI-Nova-500x500.jpg


1,8 or 2,4 ohm delicious flavors, huge smoke ;)
 

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Hi Harley!

The most important question! how many is the resistance your stardust?

normal 650-900-1100 eGo-T Battery prefer this application:

VO-MINI-Nova-500x500.jpg


1,8 or 2,4 ohm delicious flavors, huge smoke ;)

My question exactly, are you using the standard 2.8 ohm atomizer? If so, forget it, you can suck your toenails up trying to get a good hit of an EgoC-- for some reason that is the ohm-age they usually sell in the kits.

Once I used a LR (2.4) the experience was completely different, and the 1.8 better yet.
 

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Hi!

My first ego-t is currently on its way on a slow boat from China, so I don't have any first hand experience on neither the ego or vision2/stardust yet. So you'll have to take my recommendations for what they are, just secondhand recommendations after lurking around here at ECF.

Most vapers spend some time, and try out a few different combinations before they find out what works best for them. The ego-t is a good starting point on that quest, since it has a decent sized battery with the most widely used threading. So almost any thing you can buy out there will fit nicely on your batteries.

I've read some good things about the vision2/stardust too, so I guess it's not supposed to be as bad as you describe it. Maybe there's a problem with the one you bought? After all, it's most likely assembled by an underpaid Chinese whose salary depends on the number of items he/she can produce during the day. No vapor could mean that you're not getting enough e-juice to the heating element (or it could also mean that you're getting too much e-juice to the heating element causing it to cool down the heater instead of vaporizing).

The e-juice is of course another factor in the equation. The main ingredient in the e-juice is glycerin. It could be PG or VG, or a mix of the two. In general, VG is strongest on vapor, while PG is stronger on throat hit. VG is not quite as liquid as PG, so I guess they have different wicking qualities, which would make them perform different depending on the gear.

I've also read a lot of good things about the Vivi Nova, so I guess that could be an option if you don't get the vision2/stardust to work satisfactory.

Anyway, my recommendation is to hang in there, and try out a couple of combinations. Hopefully you'll find your perfect setup soon.
 

harleyrdr

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Hi Harley!

The most important question! how many is the resistance your stardust?

normal 650-900-1100 eGo-T Battery prefer this application:

VO-MINI-Nova-500x500.jpg


1,8 or 2,4 ohm delicious flavors, huge smoke ;)

It's a Vision2....not sure of the resistance. website says 2.1 - 2.4 OHMS. All I can tell you is it puts out very little vapor and I can't stand it. It puts out about 1/4 a normal drag on a tobacco cig.
 

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It's a Vision2....not sure of the resistance. website says 2.1 - 2.4 OHMS. All I can tell you is it puts out very little vapor and I can't stand it. It puts out about 1/4 a normal drag on a tobacco cig.

I think you'd like using cartomizers. I'd recommend the Resurrectors from Crystal Clear Vaping. They are 1.7ohms, XL and they are fantastic for throat hit. Your vapor will result more from your e-juice than your tank/carto, though a high voltage mod will help with that. For loads of vapor, you'll want a high-VG ratio in your juice. If you go with 100% VG, you'll sacrifice throat hit.

Edited to add: Your battery is a bit small. I'd recommend that you get a better one as soon as you can. Since you already have an Ego, try the Twist. Alternately, the KGO and Rivas are terrific and they operate at a higher fixed voltage than your 650 Ego.
 

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the first 2 stardusts that I had were very different than eachother. one had a nice easy draw and plumed vapor with just one 6 second puff, the 2nd had a really stiff draw and would need multiple 6 second puffs to equal the vapor of the first...

i tossed the 2nd one, bad QC i figured. the battery is probably not the issue, you might have a bad stardust... maybe try a CE2 style carto...
 

harleyrdr

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the first 2 stardusts that I had were very different than eachother. one had a nice easy draw and plumed vapor with just one 6 second puff, the 2nd had a really stiff draw and would need multiple 6 second puffs to equal the vapor of the first...

i tossed the 2nd one, bad QC i figured. the battery is probably not the issue, you might have a bad stardust... maybe try a CE2 style carto...

I also doubt the battery is the issue. What is a CE2 style whatever. It doesn't do much good to respond if you don't explain what you're talking about. What's the difference? Why is it better? Why will I get better vapor?

Before the thread is finished I'll have 30 recomendations and not response telling me why their response is what I'm after. I'm already back to square one just on these responses.

Look folks, I'm not the only new person trying this. Please explain what you're talking about.

All I want is HUGE vapor and an easy draw. I dont care what it costs. Just point me in the right direction WITHOUT all the unexplained slang....
 

harleyrdr

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the first 2 stardusts that I had were very different than eachother. one had a nice easy draw and plumed vapor with just one 6 second puff, the 2nd had a really stiff draw and would need multiple 6 second puffs to equal the vapor of the first...

i tossed the 2nd one, bad QC i figured. the battery is probably not the issue, you might have a bad stardust... maybe try a CE2 style carto...

This does the same thing. I need to keep hitting it and hitting it...then the battery starts flashing to time out. Geez Im out of breath by the time I'm done, and still minimum vapor. I'm ready to just go find a carton of Chesterfields and rid myself of the entire vaping misery. I'm starting to think it's just a fad to separate the unsuspecting people from their money.
 

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The battery does matter because lower resistance cartomizers/tanks use more battery power. Your Ego operates at a fairly low voltage compared to the Twist, KGO, Riva and variable voltage units. The voltage matters when it comes to the vapor.

The draw will be easier with a low resistance cartomizer.

If you really don't care about cost, go right for the Provari. It's the gold standard in vaping at this point.

Clear as mud?
 

harleyrdr

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Hey, I'm new myself. I have a 510 Joye with a Kanger carto and I get really great vapor and the draw is really easy. A lot of the people I work with swear by the Stardust and it works much better than mine. ( I work with Sailors. We drink, smoke and *Omitted* like sailors haha)
Without sounding pretentious but are you sure you are set up right? It shouldn't be difficult to draw.
On my mini set-up I get just as big hits as I do from analogue cigarettes.

If I were you I would double-check my set-up to make sure everything is working properly.

Cheers!

I'm all ears....exactly what should my set up be? What needs to be working properly? Double check what? Whats a Kanger carto?
 

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VapingRulz

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I'm ready to just go find a carton of Chesterfields and rid myself of the entire vaping misery. I'm starting to think it's just a fad to separate the unsuspecting people from their money.

No, it's not a fad. It's the only thing that has ever worked to get me off the cigarettes. I was a heavy smoker for over 37 years. It may help if I tell you what I'm currently using - but remember that it may not suit you as well as it does me.

Ego Twist and KGO batteries
Low resistance cartomizers (Smoketech 1.7ohm XL)
Backwoods Brew Espresso (18mg 70/30 PG/VG)
Virgin Vapor Kona Velvet Milkshake (18 mg 50/50 PG/VG)
 

VapingRulz

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Another useless post taking up bandwidth.... Dude you explained absolutely nothing...lol

I'm female and you're not being very clear about what part confuses you. You've had several people tell you what may help - you're just not understanding the lingo, I suspect.

If you want more vapor, you have to do a few things differently:
1. Get a bigger and/or more powerful battery
2. Make sure your juice has a high VG ratio (VG means more vapor)
3. Get a better delivery system. Your CE2's are not working for you. Try LR cartomizers or a Vivi Nova tank.
 

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You may have to pull the inner battery airway tube out a bit- 1/32" on the batt end of the clearo. I've had to do this on 5? out of 60+? If that doesn't work try some Smok Tech 1.7 XL single coil cartomizers aka The Resurector.
5 and 15 packs- free shipping
Crystal Clear Vaping

Looks like the long wick
 

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I also doubt the battery is the issue. What is a CE2 style whatever. It doesn't do much good to respond if you don't explain what you're talking about. What's the difference? Why is it better? Why will I get better vapor?

Before the thread is finished I'll have 30 recomendations and not response telling me why their response is what I'm after. I'm already back to square one just on these responses.

Look folks, I'm not the only new person trying this. Please explain what you're talking about.

All I want is HUGE vapor and an easy draw. I dont care what it costs. Just point me in the right direction WITHOUT all the unexplained slang....

If you put that Stardust in a vice and drill 2 1/16th holes in the metal band at the bottom it will vape like a champ.


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damthisisfun

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I think you'd like using cartomizers. I'd recommend the Resurrectors from Crystal Clear Vaping. They are 1.7ohms, XL and they are fantastic for throat hit. Your vapor will result more from your e-juice than your tank/carto, though a high voltage mod will help with that. For loads of vapor, you'll want a high-VG ratio in your juice. If you go with 100% VG, you'll sacrifice throat hit.

Edited to add: Your battery is a bit small. I'd recommend that you get a better one as soon as you can. Since you already have an Ego, try the Twist. Alternately, the KGO and Rivas are terrific and they operate at a higher fixed voltage than your 650 Ego.

Totally agree - I have the same and the TH is great.
 
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