Newbie Impressions: G6, Mini Tanks, Triton, Batteries and Nicotine Levels

[Moonswanni]

This post didn't turn out like I anticipated, but I thought I would share my newbie perception of a few things. Experience probably will change my opinions, but I wanted to capture these thoughts now. Perhaps it would help other newbies, and maybe veterans can chime in as well.

[Warning: I wrote this in a hurry and last night I called vaping, vamping. So I come without an editor.]

On with the experiments . . .

Triton v/s G6 with Mini-Tanks
I love both devices and they serve difference purposes. The G6 is my portable device and the Triton stays home. I prefer vaping 0 nicotine in the Triton. The Triton has more vapor and a fuller taste. The G6 seems tighter and the Triton more airy (not a bad airy; it’s more like a vapor flavor airy). I can really taste all the notes in the juice with the Triton, including the delicate ones. Depending on the juice, they are non-existent or muted in the G6 with mini-tanks. Juices that are 0 nicotine really benefit in the Triton. I can't imagine vamping (making sure you’re paying attention) 0 nicotine in a G6. Maybe time will change my mind.

0 Nicotine v/s 6MG Nicotine
I'm using my Triton with the Malibu flavor.

The 6MG Nicotine brings out (or compliments) the menthol flavor. The throat hit is very light even in 6MG, while in 0 MG form the throat hit is non-existent, but you still get a menthol sensation. It does feel like your vaping air in 0 MG form.

To me, the nicotine takes away from the taste in a noticeable way, and I wasn't able to taste all the little nuances in the juice. With the nicotine version it was hit, then menthol, and then some pineapple. The flavor was lost and this is a very favorable juice, although a light one. The end result, is I prefer 0 nicotine with this juice and will not be buying Malibu in 6MG again.

Although I haven't tried it, I wonder if the same thing would happen to Belgian Cocoa. This juice has delicate "notes" and I wonder if the nicotine would mute them too. I'm thinking it would.

LR Cartomizers v/s Mini Tanks
The juice is Captain Jack and I'm using my G6.

I was a little hesitant to try Captain Jack but I'm glad I tried it. It reminds me of Long Island Ice with Lemon (don't ask). The tanks win this competition but the LR cartomizers were good too. In the mini-tanks the flavor is bigger and you can taste the complexity of the juice, but I wasn't disappointed with the LR cartomizers either. I really liked both, but wonder if a lighter juice would have the same results.

Automatic v/s Manual Battery with G6 and LR Cartomizers
Captain Jack

I didn't intend this to be an experiment but something I noticed. My technique with the manual battery is to push the button for a second and let it cook, and then take a drag. I first tried Captain Jack in the automatic, and it left me wondering about the big flavor everyone was talking about. With the manual battery, the extra heat (or my perception of the heat) brought out the flavor of this juice; with the automatic battery the taste was muted. To me this was noticeable difference with this particular juice.

Automatic v/s Manual Battery with G6 and Mini-Tanks
The different batteries performed differently with the mini-tanks as well, but it depended on the flavor. Generally speaking, almost every flavors did better with the manual battery, while the automatic battery was a hit or miss. However, the Tiki Juice performed "almost" the same with both batteries, but Turkish tobacco did significantly better with the manual battery.

In general, I like the “experience” of manual batteries but manual batteries work better with flavor in general. To me at least.

 

[Sikkrich]

This post didn't turn out like I anticipated, but I thought I would share my newbie perception of a few things. Experience probably will change my opinions, but I wanted to capture these thoughts now. Perhaps it would help other newbies, and maybe veterans can chime in as well.

[Warning: I wrote this in a hurry and last night I called vaping, vamping. So I come without an editor.]

On with the experiments . . .

Triton v/s G6 with Mini-Tanks
I love both devices and they serve difference purposes. The G6 is my portable device and the Triton stays home. I prefer vaping 0 nicotine in the Triton. The Triton has more vapor and a fuller taste. The G6 seems tighter and the Triton more airy (not a bad airy; it’s more like a vapor flavor airy). I can really taste all the notes in the juice with the Triton, including the delicate ones. Depending on the juice, they are non-existent or muted in the G6 with mini-tanks. Juices that are 0 nicotine really benefit in the Triton. I can't imagine vamping (making sure you’re paying attention) 0 nicotine in a G6. Maybe time will change my mind.

0 Nicotine v/s 6MG Nicotine
I'm using my Triton with the Malibu flavor.

The 6MG Nicotine brings out (or compliments) the menthol flavor. The throat hit is very light even in 6MG, while in 0 MG form the throat hit is non-existent, but you still get a menthol sensation. It does feel like your vaping air in 0 MG form.

To me, the nicotine takes away from the taste in a noticeable way, and I wasn't able to taste all the little nuances in the juice. With the nicotine version it was hit, then menthol, and then some pineapple. The flavor was lost and this is a very favorable juice, although a light one. The end result, is I prefer 0 nicotine with this juice and will not be buying Malibu in 6MG again.

Although I haven't tried it, I wonder if the same thing would happen to Belgian Cocoa. This juice has delicate "notes" and I wonder if the nicotine would mute them too. I'm thinking it would.

LR Cartomizers v/s Mini Tanks
The juice is Captain Jack and I'm using my G6.

I was a little hesitant to try Captain Jack but I'm glad I tried it. It reminds me of Long Island Ice with Lemon (don't ask). The tanks win this competition but the LR cartomizers were good too. In the mini-tanks the flavor is bigger and you can taste the complexity of the juice, but I wasn't disappointed with the LR cartomizers either. I really liked both, but wonder if a lighter juice would have the same results.

Automatic v/s Manual Battery with G6 and LR Cartomizers
Captain Jack

I didn't intend this to be an experiment but something I noticed. My technique with the manual battery is to push the button for a second and let it cook, and then take a drag. I first tried Captain Jack in the automatic, and it left me wondering about the big flavor everyone was talking about. With the manual battery, the extra heat (or my perception of the heat) brought out the flavor of this juice; with the automatic battery the taste was muted. To me this was noticeable difference with this particular juice.

Automatic v/s Manual Battery with G6 and Mini-Tanks
The different batteries performed differently with the mini-tanks as well, but it depended on the flavor. Generally speaking, almost every flavors did better with the manual battery, while the automatic battery was a hit or miss. However, the Tiki Juice performed "almost" the same with both batteries, but Turkish tobacco did significantly better with the manual battery.

In general, I like the “experience” of manual batteries but manual batteries work better with flavor in general. To me at least.

Not sure if you do this or not but if you (retrohale) exhale thru the nose, it really enhances the nuances.

 

[PeteC2]

Nice thread and appreciate you sharing your experiences.

I almost always hit the button a second before drawing, and find that after a very short time, you instinctively find the best technique for your tastes.

For that reason I definitely recommend the manual batteries over automatic.

Although the mini tanks do just fine, the Triton tanks IMHO are heads and shoulders better at getting the full flavor from an ejuice.

 

[ckmeyers]

Not sure if you do this or not but if you (retrohale) exhale thru the nose, it really enhances the nuances.

Yep, this is the best way I've found for the most flavor enjoyment.

 

[JohnnyDill]

Hitting the button on a manual battery a second before inhale is definitely the best method IMO so an automatic setup is not needed.
exhaling through my nose is the bomb with menthol juice- My Tribeca / Sub-Zero mix is SO awesome. One of the MANY things that is better about vaping compared to smoking is that when the vapor gets in your eyes, it never stings, unlike nasty cigarette smoke!

 

[bobbyh3342]

you"ve never vaped vapor god "artic wolf" that stings the heck out of my eyes!

 

[Moonswanni]

Although the mini tanks do just fine, the Triton tanks IMHO are heads and shoulders better at getting the full flavor from an ejuice.

Yeah, I agree the flavors are a tad muted in the G6 mini-tanks, but I like the form of the G6. Note to mention that its a more "acceptable" by the public.

I also discovered why many think vaping at 0 nicotine is like vaping air. I just bought a non-halo brand and it was air with a hint of blueberry.

I also ordered Tribeca in 12mg for my emergency stress stash. To me there is a big taste difference from 12mg to 06mg. If anyone loves Tribeca in 12mg or higher, you'll love the flavor in 06mg. The caramel taste is barely there in the 12mg version. True, the 06mg doesn't have the throat hit but the taste is noticeable better in 06mg. I'm looking forward to the 0 strength version.

I never "retrohale" (thanks Sikkrich I learned a new word) cigarettes but I always do it with ecigs. That is the only way I can "taste" the flavors. However, it did take me a week to figure out how to smoke the things. LOL

 

[Moonswanni]

Hitting the button on a manual battery a second before inhale is definitely the best method IMO so an automatic setup is not needed. exhaling through my nose is the bomb with menthol juice- My Tribeca / Sub-Zero mix is SO awesome. One of the MANY things that is better about vaping compared to smoking is that when the vapor gets in your eyes, it never stings, unlike nasty cigarette smoke!

The more I vape the more I want just manual batteries.

I've never been a menthol person and always associated it with the wintergreen flavor (I know, I know). But after vaping Malibu (0 nic), I will be trying the menthol flavors. I have Kringle's Curse but its just peppermint and I needed something more; I mixed it with that 0 nic blueberry and it gave it a punch. So now I have blueberry-peppermint ... interesting. I heard about Sub-Zero and that is on my radar. I never would have thought to mix it with Tribeca. I'm gonna try that ... thanks.

 

[Teach08]

Yeah, I agree the flavors are a tad muted in the G6 mini-tanks, but I like the form of the G6. Note to mention that its a more "acceptable" by the public.

THIS. Gotta keep it on the down low, at least while I'm at work. To that end...

Just yesterday, I got my shipment of Mini T3 bottom coil clears from Smokeless Image...the only other tank (that I know of) that works on a Triton. They are FABULOUS. Great flavor and hit, leak- and gurgle-free, and tiny enough with a little bitty 400 Triton to fit right in a pocket. (Or many days, in a bra...don't judge. lol) I do rather enjoy my LR carts with a cone, too, but I can't quite get through a commute and day of work on that amount of juice...and the Triton tanks are the BOMB, but just ever so slightly large for stashing in a pocket (or a bra...what the hell, go ahead and judge).

If Halo would make a glass tank already, I'd completely do away with my eGo gear!Edited to include a dang LINK to the cool new stuff...duh.

 

[BigBen2k]

Interesting.

I just got SI's regular T3, and it gurgles, and crackles (quite inconveniently), and turned my Tribeca into a feeble caramel candy. It didn't come with the soft rubber cover that the Triton has.

I'll have to try the mini T3...

I'm also about to test SI's nano; a bottom coil version of the Halo mini tank.

 

[Moonswanni]

THIS. Gotta keep it on the down low, at least while I'm at work. To that end...

Just yesterday, I got my shipment of Mini T3 bottom coil clears from Smokeless Image...the only other tank (that I know of) that works on a Triton. They are FABULOUS. Great flavor and hit, leak- and gurgle-free, and tiny enough with a little bitty 400 Triton to fit right in a pocket. (Or many days, in a bra...don't judge. lol) I do rather enjoy my LR carts with a cone, too, but I can't quite get through a commute and day of work on that amount of juice...and the Triton tanks are the BOMB, but just ever so slightly large for stashing in a pocket (or a bra...what the hell, go ahead and judge).

If Halo would make a glass tank already, I'd completely do away with my eGo gear!Edited to include a dang LINK to the cool new stuff...duh.

OK. This is seriously funny stuff. Who am I to judge ... actually you gave me an idea. LOL

Thanks for the rec. I haven't tried bottom coils yet. I REALLY would like Halo to come out with a glass tank. That would be totally rad.

Sour Throat
The tiny tanks are not a problem for me - yet - but I know what you mean. I haven't found my groove with ejuice yet. I've been carrying a stash of tanks to work. I'm more of a "taster-vaper" but when I over-vape I get a sore throat and dry cough. I purchased several non-halo VG juices, but I like the complexity of Halo's stuff. So, I'm using the sore throat as way to pace myself. Not a bad thing.

Triton and Juices
I have about 15 Halo ejuices now (don't judge me ... hehe). I discovered I prefer certain juices with certain devices. For example, Captain Jack is banned from the Triton. He is too much man for me and only lives in cartomizers now. Ditto with Voodoo. However, my Triton has made friends with Longhorn and Belgian Cocoa. The problem is Belgian Cocoa gets thick quickly, so it has been banned from mini-tanks.

Then there is Kringle's Curse who stubbornly sticks to the tank, even after a soak in the tub. He has been incarcerated into one lonely tank and will live there until there's a jail break. Then there is Tribeca. My prefilled cartomizers taste great, but the occupants of my new 30ml bottle have been sent on vacation to mellow out. Tiki, Turkish, and Apple are the only ones behaving at the moment. So as you can see ... I have issues. LOL

 

[SeniorBoy]

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I also ordered Tribeca in 12mg for my emergency stress stash. To me there is a big taste difference from 12mg to 06mg. If anyone loves Tribeca in 12mg or higher, you'll love the flavor in 06mg. The caramel taste is barely there in the 12mg version. True, the 06mg doesn't have the throat hit but the taste is noticeable better in 06mg. I'm looking forward to the 0 strength version....

Hey Swanni I'm loving your posts. Keep it up. Respectfully, I need to correct you based on mixing my own juices as well as lots of time with commercial juices like Tribeca. Regardless of the nic level they all taste the same subject to the following conditions which I'm going to try and list in importance and probability. Ready? Here we go Swanni...

The 6 was steeped properly and the 12 was fresh and not properly steeped. Your steeping and not Halos. As per the little card they include with the juice to give you a rough idea but YOU still need to steep. HUGE difference in vape taste with tobaccos and many many desert type flavors. TH is a NIC issue but not germain to a discussion of "taste" "tones" "draw or cheek flavor" "dancing bears" and "drunk people in Vegas Casinos". LOL

Take any juice at any nic level assuming the juice is preoperly steeped and the vape taste will be slightly different in some sessions because:

Your taste buds are fatigued or nuked
Your tank is fresh clean and all shinny with new heads verses a tank that lets just call it old and worn out with heads that are partially clogged
Your sence of SMELL drives your sence of taste. Any pro flavorist will tell you this. Your tired maybe. Your body clock and the time of the day. You need hydrating. You have a stuff uped nose. You've been vaping to long in a day so you need a break. Delivry device like plastic or glass. Non Regulated Bat or VV and the state of the charge in the Non regulated Bat like a 650. Your weening yourself from say 12 to 6 level and your body is adjusting to the reduced NIC per day which short term will effect taste but long term it taste the same at 6 or 12. It's your body adjusting and not the NIC level long term.

If another vendors juice vape taste is not to your liking at 6 its not going to get any better for you at 12,24, or 36. It's just not the taste you enjoy with no direct relationship to the NIC level. It's all about the flavoring and how they mixed it. Both a science and art.

BTW, a ton of juice is first created with a "carrier" that is ONLY PG/VG and the flavoring. NO NIC. This is a preliminary first step to nail down the desired taste. After the taste is in the ball park or close enough, then the NIC and then the steeping.

HTH

 

[Fulgurant]

Hey Swanni I'm loving your posts. Keep it up. Respectfully, I need to correct you based on mixing my own juices as well as lots of time with commercial juices like Tribeca. Regardless of the nic level they all taste the same subject to the following conditions which I'm going to try and list in importance and probability. Ready? Here we go Swanni...

Interesting post, good insight.

I was wondering after reading the OP whether my max-strength nicotine levels were influencing the juices' flavors, because a lot of reports on the forum seem to differ from my experience, to a greater or lesser degree. But now I'm back to thinking it's mostly a matter of my body adjusting to the sudden lack of cigarette smoke in my life.

 

[Moonswanni]

Cool, thanks for your post Senior Boy. I'm a wine and tea connoisseur (such a snotty word) and this reminds me of that in many ways. I'm going to buy a Netti pot, because of inflammation issues. I'm one of those people who are sensitive and allergic to everything. Currently I'm having high PG problems - I think. I like the term "nuked" by the way.

Actually, I almost completely on 0mg of nicotine. I bought the 12mg for emergencies and 06mg to complete the weening process. This has come much faster than I anticipated, but I think buying 12mg was a mistake. Since I have all three strengthens in some flavors, I've been diluting the nicotene. I also have a bottle of unflavored juice and have been experimenting with diluting strong juices; sometimes it works but most of the time it doesn't. Some people get into the hardware aspect of vaping, but I can see myself experimenting with flavors.

But with that said, I still find nicotine overpowers delicate notes in the juice, especially when it's in the Triton. The more parts of 0 nicotine I mix, the more the "floral notes" come out. Perhaps I'm just more sensitive to nicotine, because I'm starting to dislike throat hit - a lot. This is strange because I craved it two weeks ago (I was using another brand before Halo).

 

[Moonswanni]

Interesting post, good insight.

I was wondering after reading the OP whether my max-strength nicotine levels were influencing the juices' flavors, because a lot of reports on the forum seem to differ from my experience, to a greater or lesser degree. But now I'm back to thinking it's mostly a matter of my body adjusting to the sudden lack of cigarette smoke in my life.

I think it depends on the sensitivity of ones system and situation, plus the things that SeniorBoy said. Perhaps this explains the differences in experiences. I can detect differences in wine, that non-wine drinkers will not notice, so this conditioning could be carrying over to vaping. But to me, the nicotine content does change the taste.

In my experience, 12mg almost burns my throat. It's almost like it overpowers some flavors in the juice. Keep in mind I haven't had a cigarette for almost three months, and I just starting vaping around 2.5 weeks ago. So my situation is probably different than most.

 

[Fulgurant]

I think it depends on the sensitivity of ones system and situation, plus the things that SeniorBoy said. Perhaps this explains the differences in experiences. I can detect differences in wine, that non-wine drinkers will not notice, so this conditioning could be carrying over to vaping. But to me, the nicotine content does change the taste.

Heh, yeah, that could be. Between the cigarettes and hayfever, I've never had what I'd call a delicate palate.

Seems like different people have different experiences vis-a-vis nicotine's effect on flavor. The particular juice in question probably makes a difference too. The one thing that everyone seems to agree on is that nicotine affects the strength of the throat hit, which to me is sorta inseparable from the flavor, just as a food's texture dramatically influences our perception of how good it tastes.

Anyway, I've found the thread interesting. Thanks.

 

[Moonswanni]

Seems like different people have different experiences vis-a-vis nicotine's effect on flavor. The particular juice in question probably makes a difference too.

For sure. Especially for those who just quit cigs. People who just quit cigarettes are not sensitive to taste and smell, so they will have a different experience with flavors. They'll be able to handle strong flavors, while people like me have issues. It makes me sorta jealous, because I really like flavors like Captain Jack; but its too strong for me. In my house its - dilute, dilute, into the cartomizer you go.

 

[SeniorBoy]

I'm loving this thread.

Of course we have yet to discuss exactly how we vape which has a impact on the juice taste. My thoughts subject to your thoughts. ECF has a video somewhere which is about how to vape and is a good start but not the entire story. You should NOT vape the same way you smoked analogs so it takes a little practice. Assume for a moment we are talking about the same juice, the same delivry device which for me is always a tank and some incarnation of bat with VV or a mod weather you call it a Triton system or the wild and crazy ProVarinatti fan boys

1. I like to press the fire button first to heat the juice and insure the wicks/coil/head is all happy and ready for my vape. I always due this.

2.Sometimes a draw and exhale only through my nose

3. Sometimes a draw and a cheek hold. Vaper is held in my mouth so very little enters the room when I exhale

4. Sometimes a draw, a shorter cheek hold and a conscious pull to my lungs. So in this case a TH is kinda a misnomer for me as I prefer to call it a THLH lol. I want a LUNG HIT. lol


And here is when I use 2-4. Numero 4: Once I reach vertica (wake up)l I want coffee and a LUNG HIT and I better get it or I'm a basket case for the day. During this AM session I'm not interested in savoring the subtle tones or dancing bears. Just give me the predominant flavor and take it to my lungs. O please God just due it.

After I've eaten breakfast and throught the day hardly any #4 technique. At this time of the day it's more about the flavor and dancing notes. The subtles and yummie ness so I don't desire constant lung hits on every draw but maybe every 10 draws.

Late PM after my dinner and my system is getting ready for beddy by I due a lot of 2 to savor those subtle notes and dancing drunk women in Vegas casinos. The other half is Numero 3.

Fortunately, ECF has a huge DIY community full of very very experienced folks who have been mixing juice for years. Even a few stealth commercial flavorist among the crowd. They work with NIC and it's carrier of PG and or VG constantly and are very very .... about components which is a good thing. Quality NIC in any strength plus quality PG and or VG is colorless and odorless. Call this the "base". Vaping the base at any NIC level delivers NIC to your system without taste. It's a great way to give your taste buds a vacation and mitigate the effects of vapors throat/tongue. Ask Vapor Girl. lol Some people due taste a very slight sweetness in the base but that's NOT from the NIC. It's from the PG. Tweaks to vape flavor and TH CAN be adjusted via the PG/VG components percents ONLY and this is often done. If your vaping the "base" I'm talking about in this paragraph and getting tones and tastes like a regular juice it aint from the base.

HTH

 

[wheezal]

1. I like to press the fire button first to heat the juice and insure the wicks/coil/head is all happy and ready for my vape. I always due this.

2.Sometimes a draw and exhale only through my nose

3. Sometimes a draw and a cheek hold. Vaper is held in my mouth so very little enters the room when I exhale

4. Sometimes a draw, a shorter cheek hold and a conscious pull to my lungs. So in this case a TH is kinda a misnomer for me as I prefer to call it a THLH lol. I want a LUNG HIT. lol

what the? what are you some sort of acrobat? that's way too many things to do at once, i'm lucky if I don't hurt myself in the mornings trying to tie my shoes....thank gawd for Velcro, of course that also caused me issues back in the late 90's.


what are we talking about again?

 

[Teach08]

Moon, I'm right there with ya! I still love my little tanks and carts for the flavor-whoring I tend to do...new juice from MBV at least once a week at this point. Not sure I'll ever run out of stuff to try!

Senior Boy...you owe me several sips (gulps?) of really good beer. And possibly a keyboard if you keep that up.