Newbie looking for guidance (and answers)

[asitoro]

Yeah i've seen it but the Gotvapes' kit is more tempting with all the useful extras. I was afraid the head coil i had linked werent compatible with the Stardust in the kit. How often do you change the coil head? I remember reading after about 10 refills or something, so that would be once every 2-3 weeks im guessing?

Edit: by the way, thanks to everyone with their useful infos and especially you Krash for your patience lol.

 

[KrasH]

It's my pleasure Noks.

The heads can go from a couple weeks to a month or so, just depends on how you treat them. If you clean them a couple times a week, don't dry burn them (running without juice) or drop them a lot they will last with no problems. Heads are easy to change as well, just unscrew and put new one on. It's a decent kit and much less than I dropped locally when I first started, did not do enough research and did not know about ECF at the time. Spent damn near $200 for less than you get in that kit, plus 90ml of juice though. Not a total rip off, but I could have spent much less and still been happy.

Oh you may not know but there is also a ViVi Mini Nova, holds a little less juice, but is not as bulky as it's big brother. They have them at GotVapes as well. Once you get the setup your biggest issue will be juice and finding what you like. Just start out with the 24mg stuff at first, you can drop down after you get off the analogs (cigarettes) and get into vaping.

If you don't like the tanks, you should give these a try STALLION™ Hybrid Empty 510 Carto 5PK - BLACK [gv-STALLION-Empty5PK-BLACK] - $9.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more they give a great warm vape, hold a decent amount of juice and last about a month with proper care. So for $2 each you can get almost half a year out of that package. Key to all atomizers, cartomizers or anything that creates vapor is to keep them clean and don't over power them. That will keep them in good running order for a long time. I use the Stallions on my 510 setup (the stick type) everyday, love those things to death. It's also a good way to keep different flavors in your case for on the go. Just load one or two up with different juice, remove your tank and thread one of those on for a change of pace. Helps keep you from getting bored with a juice.

Let us know if you need anymore help, it's why we are part of ECF.

 

[asitoro]

Alright so i got my kit but i really hate it. It's probably the juice that comes with it, which is Liqua tobacco (Italian flavor) but the throat hit is much harsher then my McDonald cigs. The throat hit reminds me a lot of the cheap Indian Discount cigarette. I wish it was nice and smooth rather then feel like Mike Tyson was punching my throat. Is this the same with all e-juices?

 

[Razloz]

The harshness or "throat hit" of the vapor depends on a few different things. Firstly the nicotine content, higher the nic, stronger the hit. Secondly there's air flow, the density of the vapor contributes to how harsh it is as well. Other slightly more minor things that can affect the throat hit; acidic flavoring, mint/menthol, and the type of wicking material (in the case of dry hits, where the wick no longer has enough juice and the coils heat it up, resulting in a nasty and extremely harsh and/or painful inhale).

 

[KrasH]

Try this, when you take a hit from your PV allow a little excess air to come in as you draw. So you are pulling from the carto and from the the air around the tip as well. This should bring in some extra air and cut the hit. As the last poster said there are many factors. Try a different juice and make sure its not the setup running hot and you are getting dry hits, those are super harsh.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

It looks like the clearos that came with the kit are non rebuildable and the older version short wick. If they are the short wick you need to tilt the tank every so often to keep the wicks saturated otherwise you'll get a dry burn. Here's the rebuildable long wick ones- note the removable knurled bottom cap.

Alright so i got my kit but i really hate it. It's probably the juice that comes with it, which is Liqua tobacco (Italian flavor) but the throat hit is much harsher then my McDonald cigs. The throat hit reminds me a lot of the cheap Indian Discount cigarette. I wish it was nice and smooth rather then feel like Mike Tyson was punching my throat. Is this the same with all e-juices?

 

[KrasH]

It looks like the clearos that came with the kit are non rebuildable and the older version short wick. If they are the short wick you need to tilt the tank every so often to keep the wicks saturated otherwise you'll get a dry burn. Here's the rebuildable long wick ones- note the removable knurled bottom cap.

Even those have to be tipped after a certain point, I have to do it with my ViVi Nova as well. It sounds more like a dry hit than just massive throat hit from the actual juice to me.

 

[asitoro]

Mmm, it's probably a dry hit because that is amongst the harshest hit i've ever had and those Indian cigarettes can be damn harsh sometimes depending on the batch, kind of like Cuban cigarettes, those are pretty harsh on the throat too. Strange thing is i can still taste the caramel after-taste, would it be normal on a dry hit? I like the concept, the nicotine, even the taste, but that throat hit is too harsh, it's not how big the hit is, but how aggressive it is to the throat. My cigarettes give a decent hit but while strong, it's smooth and gentle, not harsh like this one.

Another question, how do i know if batteries are ready? I've put mine on charge for 5 minutes before the light went from red to green, and the guy in the video says when fully charged, button should light up bright blue, mine is a weak regular light (not even blue) even though the adapter's light switched to green...

Here's what i have, even though mine says "Traditional tobacco" and has a different box.

 

[KrasH]

That is a good juice, you are getting dry hits. You will get a little of the flavor still, but there is not enough juice on the coil, a tilt will fix that problem. If you watch any of the videos by someone like Grimm Green on YouTube he talks about doing the dip with tanks and so on. Same thing with PBusardo from Taste Your Juice, in fact he has a great one on the ViVi Nova talking about this exact issue. Wicking is just not fast enough when you get to a certain point on tanks and cartos will dry out close to the coil of you are chain vaping. Sitting the carto down for a bit and letting juice migrate back towards the coil via gravity you will once again get a proper vape. You are getting dry hits for sure.

Batteries take hours to recharge. Are you using a wall charger or a USB via the computer?

 

[asitoro]

Could my tank be defective or something? because i tried tilting like Vapoor Eyes er suggested or even letting it upside down and still the same hits.

Batterie is charging with wall charger.

Edit: There's 2 led lights, one on the charger itself and 1 on the USB cable, which am i suppose to look at to see if it's charged? USB one is green and wall charger is red.

This is a bit more complicated then i had anticipated >.> Do you have a link to those videos to see if im doing it right?

 

[Doogmar]

I don't have much to add, my answer would've been what the others have said about tipping it to make sure it's getting juice (I haven't used a clearomizer before.) My one suggestion would be to get some cartos. They are super easy to fill and will work with no issues. Then when you get your tank situation worked out you can fill your tank with one flavor, and put other flavors in the cartos...they won't go to waste.

Oh and don't give up You'll get it going. You might want to use the search funstion here and see if someone else had the same issue and how they fixed it. thats how I figured out my Vivi nova problem There is definitely a learning curve when it comes to tanks, imo cartos are the easiest way...I use both

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Vaping the Mini Vivi Nova at 3.7- 4.5 volts I find no dry hits until juice level is at .60 ml. Previously, when I was researching, I found the regular size Vivi gave dry hits more often so I opted for the Minis.

Also the ohms of the Stardusts may be too high and/or the voltage may be set wrong. Try the eGo in both regulated and unregulated. Could also be the PG/ VG ratio of the juice. Have you examined/ washed or dry burned the head?

Even those have to be tipped after a certain point, I have to do it with my ViVi Nova as well. It sounds more like a dry hit than just massive throat hit from the actual juice to me.

 

[asitoro]

Also the ohms of the Stardusts may be too high and/or the voltage may be set wrong. Try the eGo in both regulated and unregulated. Could also be the PG/ VG ratio of the juice. Have you examined/ washed or dry burned the head?

I though about that but surely GotVape would've made sure everything was compatible in their starter kit right? I have the eGo-t upgrade that i think has 3.3 volt on constant mode. I can't seem to see what is the ohm the stardust tank's head has but the replacement i got are short wick and 2.8 ohm, (i could've swear they'd be long wick like the ones i have in my stardusts).

I want to try the second Stardust that i got and see if it still gives me burn hits but i cant seem to open that stupid child-proof cap .

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

For future use you have to examine these starter kits very closely as there's usually a "weak link" in them. 2.8 ohms is too high. With my 3.7 volt Kgo, Don, SD I use 1.7 cartos and 1.8 Vivi Heads. With my Twists I use 2.4 ohms head and vape from 4 volts to 4.5 volts. Peak of your PV is 4.2 volts and as the battery drains the voltage goes down. Your other setting is at 3.3 volts= longer battery life. You bought the replacement heads but unless you have the clearo with the knurled base (as in the pic) they are non rebuildable. I rebuilt one of those a long time ago and it was tough.

 

[asitoro]

Ah, damn it, what tank would you recommend that i could get from CanVape? I see they have a Vivi Nova with 1.8 and 2.4 Ohms. Im not sure if this Vivi Nova is better then the Stardust tho. Im guessing those are rebuild-able?

I did a quick search and apparently the eGo-T upgrade is 3.3 Volts on constant mode and 4.2 on Variable mode (apparently it drops depending on battery charge level). Im only interested in Constant mode so what would be a good resistance for 3.3 volts?

Edit: Im a little tired and actually didnt realise you had done the search on the Volts of my battery. I guess i should go for 1.8 but they dont seem to carry long wick coil at that Ohm.

Also, is there a certain PG/VG ration i should look for with the setup ill have?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Yes People are waiting for Canvape to get the 1.8 long wick heads. With the Vivi Nova it comes with 1 X 1.8 LONG WICK. I've used both and there;s a HUGE difference. Make sure you get the Mini as less apt to have dry burns and looks much better on the eGo. Just to let you know the threads on the Vivi Nova will show and if you're concerned you can buy a cone to hide the threads.
Shorty Tank Cone(eGo thread covers)
It's a drag as for the $80.00 you spent I could've gotten you a Twist Kit, charger, wall adapter + 2 Rebuildable Vivi Novas.

Ah, damn it, what tank would you recommend that i could get from CanVape? I see they have a Vivi Nova with 1.8 and 2.4 Ohms. Im not sure if this Vivi Nova is better then the Stardust tho. Im guessing those are rebuild-able?

I did a quick search and apparently the eGo-T upgrade is 3.3 Volts on constant mode and 4.2 on Variable mode (apparently it drops depending on battery charge level). Im only interested in Constant mode so what would be a good resistance for 3.3 volts?

Edit: Im a little tired and actually didnt realise you had done the search on the Volts of my battery. I guess i should go for 1.8 but they dont seem to carry long wick coil at that Ohm.

Also, is there a certain PG/VG ration i should look for with the setup ill have?

 

[Razloz]

At 3.3 volts you want either 1.5 ohms or 1.8 ohms, or in that range, higher than 1.8 and you won't get much flavor due to lack of heat. Personally I go with 50/50 PG/VG in my juices, but it's personal preference. The higher PG you get the more flavor, the higher VG the more vapor. Half and half is just how I like it, VG does tend to "mute" flavor a bit, where PG is a bit thinner vapor.

Ah, damn it, what tank would you recommend that i could get from CanVape? I see they have a Vivi Nova with 1.8 and 2.4 Ohms. Im not sure if this Vivi Nova is better then the Stardust tho. Im guessing those are rebuild-able?

I did a quick search and apparently the eGo-T upgrade is 3.3 Volts on constant mode and 4.2 on Variable mode (apparently it drops depending on battery charge level). Im only interested in Constant mode so what would be a good resistance for 3.3 volts?

Edit: Im a little tired and actually didnt realise you had done the search on the Volts of my battery. I guess i should go for 1.8 but they dont seem to carry long wick coil at that Ohm.

Also, is there a certain PG/VG ration i should look for with the setup ill have?

 

[Razloz]

Oh I should also mention that high VG juices have wicking issues because it's so thick. In the vivi novas and similar tanks you want at least a 50/50 juice, 70/30 PG/VG for quick wicking.

 

[asitoro]

Thanks for the replies. I e-mailed Canvape and they said they would offer the long wick once the short ones were gone, sigh. Pretty impressed by how quickly he replied though. Im a little scared at pursuing this e-cig trend, can throat hit be nice and smooth or is there always a certain harshness to it?

 

[KrasH]

Thanks for the replies. I e-mailed Canvape and they said they would offer the long wick once the short ones were gone, sigh. Pretty impressed by how quickly he replied though. Im a little scared at pursuing this e-cig trend, can throat hit be nice and smooth or is there always a certain harshness to it?

What you are getting is not throat hit, it is a dry hit. Once you get the hang of dealing with some of the equipment quirks you will be much happier.