Newbie mixing questions - need to mix a lot soon...

[jensy]

Johnspack I am a Canadian and live in the same province as you so its just not for Americans nor is it an American attitude that you are hearing. Dear man your ignorance shows no bounds. Everyone here was trying to tell you some very sound advice but you know best. Good luck when someone gets sick from your juice or has a heart attack for too much nicotine that you gave them . Your ego has taken over and you rational thinking process has gone out the window. But you know best as you have told everyone .

 

[Lord Cardigan]

Probably should get some experience dude, seems utterly ridiculous an idea. And this is from an Australian, imagine getting supplies here. Stop making yourself into a joke.

 

[Hoosier]

Fortune smiles on fools and drunkards.

I wish you luck in your endeavors.

 

[eyerhere]

If your going to steam ahead with this please put a disclaimer on your label that releases the vaping comunity form anything you say or do. Or why don't you just slow down and take your time and learn diy. During that time your fellow dwellers can vape comercial juice and decide if vaping is for them.Then when your juice is so much better than everybody elses you will get rich beyond your wildest dreams.

 

[Crunktanium]

Good luck when someone gets sick from your juice or has a heart attack for too much nicotine that you gave them.

And his attitude is one of the reasons Canada like parts of Europe has such strict nicotine regulations. We will all end up there soon enough as more and more clowns pretend they know everything based on personal experience.

 

[johnspack]

Again, you guys are so elitist. I will never give nicotine mixes to non smokers. I know you us guys do. I only help heavy smokers, period. I now have 100mg nic base, so you all can take your advice and suck on it. I know you sell nicotine ecigs to teens and non smokers down there. How do you expect us to keep ecigs legal when you guys keep doing that shi>>? You blame us? Any underage kid in the US can walk into any gas station and buy a nic loaded ecig. But you blame us? .......

 

[johnspack]

And if I'm so bad at mixing, why am I not dead yet? Good lord......

 

[David1975]

And if I'm so bad at mixing, why am I not dead yet? Good lord......

I think your taking this all wrong. No one on here is questioning your ability to DIY or in learning how to do it. However, many of us know the legal liability you are going to be taking on if you proceed in doing something like this. I for one don't want to see you (a person with good intentions) end up in a very bad spot, thus the warnings and advice on not proceeding. I, like others have said, do make liquid for friends and family. These friends and family are trusting me (us) to produce something using poison (high strength nicotine) that wont make them sick or kill them. While this is fine for a friends and family type situation, what your proposing to do enters the realm of a business. I know, or trust rather, that if I were to make something that for some reason I was fine using, but made them sick, I would be covering the doctors bills... I think we can agree this would be a responsible thing for any of us to do for family/friends. Now take this scenario and apply it to someone in your building or on the street.... you would bend up in court or worse. Even if it was safe and you were using it with no problem. Simple fact it, YOU made it and they got sick. How do you think it would go in court when the other sides lawyer finds out you've only been doing this for a day, a week, a few month..... and have no license as a business nor insurance to cover a suit? You can do as you will, but non of us here wish to be sitting beside you if it should come to that.... understand, it's not personal, just law.

 

[johnspack]

To be honest, I was just looking for advice. I'm turning 53 this month, have a degree in Computer Technology, smoked for 40 years, learned about ecigs 8 months ago, and quit completely. God, kill me! I understand math, ratios, and yes I'll experiment on myself first. I don't know why you guys are so dead set against me learning this ..... I'm going to do it despite you guys. My Canadian friends are helping me, don't know why you guys can't. Instead of telling me to not do it, give me some advice on how to do it. I've got the ingredients, so tell me how you think I should do it? I shouldn't use use ratio mixing app, it's wrong? I shouldn't use a 10ml and a 1ml syringe with .1ml measures to mix? I shouldn't mix dead on 24, 18 and 12mg mixes? I shouldn't mix 70/30, 50/50 perfect mixes? Just wondering......

 

[johnspack]

You ...... think I will make my clients sick? I've already converted a best friend of 18 years to ecigs. I gave him 24mg, and he's been off for 2 months now. Do you guys even know what you are talking about?
Just idiotic statement dude.... what is the level of education in the states right now.....

 

[johnspack]

And by the way, from the experience I've had here, I recommend all Canadians to stay far away from these forums. Know it alls. Want us to suffer up here. I'm done here, you guys don't help at all anyone trying to start up. I'm not going to buy from the US, period. At my age, I actually had to go off like that. The only ones who should be ashamed are you guys sorry. Nite....

 

[Dogeggs]

53 going on 13?

 

[Hoosier]

Well, darn, I guess ECF us going to miss out on all the Canadian Vaping Business Startup threads...

Considering it's already against ECF terms of use, I don't think it will be noticed.

If it is for all Canadian vapers, then I'll miss my Canadian friends here when you let the country know what big meanies hang out on ECF. Nothing but a bunch of babies yelling at Canadians with warnings and cautions when everybody knows it's everybody but 53 year old Canadians that need those elitist warnings and cautions.

You'll show us what is what, that's for sure.
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[iamthevoice]

I'm really sorry you fail to see, being older and all, the merit of the advice that was offered. It stands to reason that a person with actual experience can speak to something far more intelligently than a person without, but you don't want to see that. That's entirely your right. I just fail to see why you are the one that has to provide this juice to the other tenants. From what I understand, you're not the landlord; are you a legal guardian of some kind for these people. Are they unable or unwilling to switch to Ecigs or are you selling them juice at a reduced cost? That's pretty generous of you it would seem, but I just don't buy it. The fact that you're so angry about the responses suggests that you have something to lose here. Think it over and remember that no one here has anything to gain by telling you what they did, they just want you to avoid making this mistake. Good luck.

 

[eyerhere]

Wow it suprises me that you have enough pull to contoll an entire countrys vapers. I will call the 3 generations of my family who still live in Canada and see how they feel about you. You mentioned how highly educated you are which should command a good salery. Yet you are very concerned about the few bucks you can make off a few bottles of juice. We advised you to not do this out of concern for a fellow vaper (you). In yor replys you proved you are just an idiot

 

[Crunktanium]

I don't know why you guys are so dead set against me learning this .....

I shouldn't mix dead on 24, 18 and 12mg mixes? I shouldn't mix 70/30, 50/50 perfect mixes? Just wondering......

First you did not come here to learn you came here to pretend you are smarter than the average American.

Second if you have all the answers you should not be wondering about something you know so much about.

Third if you were not aware degrees are becoming nothing more than a piece of paper you can wipe your .... with these days.

I just hope those other tenants who will be vaping your untested nicotine are as arrogant as yourself. Then I wont feel so bad about you putting them at risk. And you just better hope that if any of them do have a reaction you don't get caught with 100mg nicotine. Bragging about breaking the law in your country on a public forum is pretty foolish. In fact many Canadian vendors have been raided and shut down for doing what you are trying to do. The difference is they had a legitimate business so they likely got off much easier then you will when you get caught.

 

[dannyv45]

John

I really think you need to go back to the beginning of this thread you started and read it again being that you didn't get it through your head the first time around that advice was offered. You could just say thank you and take this advice under advisement. But you chose the sarcastic approach which to me is a bit immature for a 53 year old who seems to be interested in nothing more than to make a quick buck while completely ignoring the health risks this may cause to others because you just don't want to take the time to learn to do it right. And I assume this based on the title of your thread and your arrogance in your responses to others who are just trying to help you.