First, Let me thank you guys for going to the thread and taking the time out to read and give advice. I am new to vaping and would like some help. First, What is the point of LR atomizers? What kind of juices can LR atomizers handle(VG or PG)? IF I were to buy a LR atomizer for JOYE 510-T, would I require a different battery for it? My current battery is an automatic JOYE 510-T 220mah. Another question, how many of you had issues switching to vaping? I stopped smoking 11 days ago. I am using 100% PG, 11mg and 18mg eliquid. I get a slight tight chest no matter what nic content I am using. I even used 50/50 VG/PG blend and get the tight chest feeling. Should I try 100% VG base eliquid? Another question. HAs anyone ever used "Vapers choice" 100% VG liquid? It says it produces good vape and throat hit. I was just curious about the throat hit on VG based liquids. Another, if I find that VG doesnt cause tight chests, should I try 70/30 VG/PG? Any other advice you would like to give?? Thanks!
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Welcome to the forum! I can try to answer a couple questions, but the members here will give you some great advice I'm sure.
I'd read this post
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hen-quitting-tobacco-changing-ecigarette.html
Difficult to say regarding e-liquids and health symptoms. Any chest pains, I'd see a doctor. If he gives you an all clear, it could be quitting smoking, PG or VG. You just have to experiment to see what's best for you. I personally can't vape high VG, it gives me a very heavy feeling in my chest.
With a 220 mah battery, you have to stick with SR cartomizers and atomizers. Low resistance cartos/attys are for larger batteries. LR may damage you battery. It will definitely shorten the life of your battery.
Good luck!
You're going to have to experiment with the VG/PG content to see what works for you but 70/30 sounds like a good place to start.
I use VG liquids which only has PG that comes with the flavoring. Yes you will lose some or a lot of TH. Without upping your nicotine, you can get some TH back with some flavors.
As for making the switch, I was in a situation where it was vaping or nothing the first three weeks. I had every intention of going back to smoking when it was over. I was a bit cranky the first few days but nothing terrible and I have never smoked another analog since March 19, 2009.
I use VG liquids which only has PG that comes with the flavoring. Yes you will lose some or a lot of TH. Without upping your nicotine, you can get some TH back with some flavors.
As for making the switch, I was in a situation where it was vaping or nothing the first three weeks. I had every intention of going back to smoking when it was over. I was a bit cranky the first few days but nothing terrible and I have never smoked another analog since March 19, 2009.
LR atomizers are a way to simulate vaping at a higher voltage than your battery is capable of. There are 2 ways to make an atomizer/carto burn hotter and give a warmer vapor. One is to increase the voltage, and the other is to lower the resistance. If you have a battery that is only 3.7V, all you can do is lower the resistance.
The warmth of the vapor depends on the wattage consumed by the coil in the atomizer. Wattage is determined by this easy formula. Volts X Volts / resistance (ohms).
If you have a 3.7V battery with a LR atomizer (say 1.5ohms) the formula would be:
3.7 X 3.7 / 1.5 = 9.13 Watts. Most people like between about 7 and 10 Watts, so that's in the "sweet spot" for a lot of vapers.
If you only had a 3ohm atomizer for that 3.7 Volt battery, the formula would be:
3.7 X 3.7 / 3 = 4.56 Watts.
Twice as much resistance (3ohms vs 1.5ohms) with the same voltage (3.7) gives you 1/2 of the watts (heat).
A LR atty is hard on a battery though. They shouldn't be used on anything smaller than 450mah. It will kill a 220mah battery in pretty short order. So, you would need a larger battery or stick to a minimum of 2ohms and, preferably, 2.5ohms.
There is no difference in a LR and a SR in handling PG or VG. Since it gets hotter, a LR atty or carto won't last as long as a SR one. VG is a little harder on attys and gunks them up quicker. So, for the shortest atty life, you would use 100% VG on a LR atty. But it's not ridiculously short, so if you use 100%VG and your battery can handle it, go ahead.
I switched to vaping literally overnight, using a little 180mah 510 rig. I started with 100% VG. When I tried a 50/50 blend, I had some problems and found out that I couldn't tolerate more than about 30% PG very well. So, now I vape 70-80% VG.
Overall, I find VG easier on my body, but harder on my cartos and attys. The nicotine in vapor is mostly absorbed through the membranes in your mouth and sinuses. Strictly speaking, it's not even necessary to inhale into your lungs at all. I get occasional bouts of chest tightness when I chain-vape too much. When that happens, I just vape like I'd smoke a cigar. I inhale into my mouth, hold it a couple seconds and slowly exhale through my nose and mouth, involving my lungs very little in the process.
You need to make sure you drink plenty of water. PG and VG dry out your system. I'm not sure, but that may also contribute to that tight feeling in your chest. At any rate, it doesn't hurt and you need to keep yourself hydrated.
The warmth of the vapor depends on the wattage consumed by the coil in the atomizer. Wattage is determined by this easy formula. Volts X Volts / resistance (ohms).
If you have a 3.7V battery with a LR atomizer (say 1.5ohms) the formula would be:
3.7 X 3.7 / 1.5 = 9.13 Watts. Most people like between about 7 and 10 Watts, so that's in the "sweet spot" for a lot of vapers.
If you only had a 3ohm atomizer for that 3.7 Volt battery, the formula would be:
3.7 X 3.7 / 3 = 4.56 Watts.
Twice as much resistance (3ohms vs 1.5ohms) with the same voltage (3.7) gives you 1/2 of the watts (heat).
A LR atty is hard on a battery though. They shouldn't be used on anything smaller than 450mah. It will kill a 220mah battery in pretty short order. So, you would need a larger battery or stick to a minimum of 2ohms and, preferably, 2.5ohms.
There is no difference in a LR and a SR in handling PG or VG. Since it gets hotter, a LR atty or carto won't last as long as a SR one. VG is a little harder on attys and gunks them up quicker. So, for the shortest atty life, you would use 100% VG on a LR atty. But it's not ridiculously short, so if you use 100%VG and your battery can handle it, go ahead.
I switched to vaping literally overnight, using a little 180mah 510 rig. I started with 100% VG. When I tried a 50/50 blend, I had some problems and found out that I couldn't tolerate more than about 30% PG very well. So, now I vape 70-80% VG.
Overall, I find VG easier on my body, but harder on my cartos and attys. The nicotine in vapor is mostly absorbed through the membranes in your mouth and sinuses. Strictly speaking, it's not even necessary to inhale into your lungs at all. I get occasional bouts of chest tightness when I chain-vape too much. When that happens, I just vape like I'd smoke a cigar. I inhale into my mouth, hold it a couple seconds and slowly exhale through my nose and mouth, involving my lungs very little in the process.
You need to make sure you drink plenty of water. PG and VG dry out your system. I'm not sure, but that may also contribute to that tight feeling in your chest. At any rate, it doesn't hurt and you need to keep yourself hydrated.
First off, Welcome to the forum and congrats on 11 days, it doesn't seem like much but it's a great leap forward.
The LR (low resistance) atty's produce more heat and vapor on a given voltage however they use up your battery faster to do it. An example would be if your using a 220mah with a 3.0 ohm atty and get 3 hours of use between charges with a 2.0 ohm atty you would only get 2 hours because of the less resistance. In exchange for getting less time you will get hotter vapor that has more flavor. It's a balancing act that you have to work out, what's more important to you, more time vaping on a single charge or stronger/hotter vapor.
I was lucky that when I switched to vaping I put the smokes down and didn't look back. The only time it bothered me was when I was around friends who still smoked. I loved the smell because it reminded me of the satisfaction I got from smoking.
That will change as time goes on. Your body is going to go through a LOT of changes if you keep at it, your sense of smell will become better, your taste buds will change and food tastes different and it's really a life changing event. Now when I smell a cig burning it's nasty and I never notice how bad it smelled on a person's body/clothes until I quit, I had no idea I smell that bad!!
As for the PG/VG it's another balancing act, for myself PG makes the flavor more intense while VG produces better vapor and adds a sweetness to the mix. It really depends on what kind of juice/flavor your looking at. If I want a tobacco flavor I'd like it in PG as I want a rich vape, but if I'm vaping a fruit flavor I want VG because of the background sweetness (I like sweet apples, not sour) but it's my own opinion of what I want.
Is it a tight chest like you can't breath or a full chest feeling? It took a few weeks to get used to the sensation of vaping as opposed to smoking, the triggers in your mind that tell you when to stop dragging on a cigarette no longer apply but your brain still has them in place and it will take a while for your brain to get used to it. Instead of drawing smoke into your mouth and then inhailing it your pulling it directly into your lungs and your brain isn't used to that so it's getting/sending wrong info based on what it was used to.
Of course, this is just my opinions and your mileage may vary.
The LR (low resistance) atty's produce more heat and vapor on a given voltage however they use up your battery faster to do it. An example would be if your using a 220mah with a 3.0 ohm atty and get 3 hours of use between charges with a 2.0 ohm atty you would only get 2 hours because of the less resistance. In exchange for getting less time you will get hotter vapor that has more flavor. It's a balancing act that you have to work out, what's more important to you, more time vaping on a single charge or stronger/hotter vapor.
I was lucky that when I switched to vaping I put the smokes down and didn't look back. The only time it bothered me was when I was around friends who still smoked. I loved the smell because it reminded me of the satisfaction I got from smoking.
That will change as time goes on. Your body is going to go through a LOT of changes if you keep at it, your sense of smell will become better, your taste buds will change and food tastes different and it's really a life changing event. Now when I smell a cig burning it's nasty and I never notice how bad it smelled on a person's body/clothes until I quit, I had no idea I smell that bad!!
As for the PG/VG it's another balancing act, for myself PG makes the flavor more intense while VG produces better vapor and adds a sweetness to the mix. It really depends on what kind of juice/flavor your looking at. If I want a tobacco flavor I'd like it in PG as I want a rich vape, but if I'm vaping a fruit flavor I want VG because of the background sweetness (I like sweet apples, not sour) but it's my own opinion of what I want.
Is it a tight chest like you can't breath or a full chest feeling? It took a few weeks to get used to the sensation of vaping as opposed to smoking, the triggers in your mind that tell you when to stop dragging on a cigarette no longer apply but your brain still has them in place and it will take a while for your brain to get used to it. Instead of drawing smoke into your mouth and then inhailing it your pulling it directly into your lungs and your brain isn't used to that so it's getting/sending wrong info based on what it was used to.
Of course, this is just my opinions and your mileage may vary.
Hello and welcome to the Forum!
In my experience, I've found that too much VG gives me a "heavy" feeling in my chest and too much PG tends to irritate my throat more than I'd like. Been all over the place with ratios and settled on 50/50. Good vapor production, good throat hit, less unpleasant throat/chest effects. Your miliage may vary of course
As far as atomizer's go, I keep 1.5, 2, and 2.5 ohm on hand and switch based on my juice I'm using at the time. Most of my juices are great on 1.5 ohm but some lose the subtle flavors at lower ohms. I'm vaping a mod that can handle the lower ohms though. On a regular battery, 2-2.5ohms is where you'll wanna stay.
In my experience, I've found that too much VG gives me a "heavy" feeling in my chest and too much PG tends to irritate my throat more than I'd like. Been all over the place with ratios and settled on 50/50. Good vapor production, good throat hit, less unpleasant throat/chest effects. Your miliage may vary of course
As far as atomizer's go, I keep 1.5, 2, and 2.5 ohm on hand and switch based on my juice I'm using at the time. Most of my juices are great on 1.5 ohm but some lose the subtle flavors at lower ohms. I'm vaping a mod that can handle the lower ohms though. On a regular battery, 2-2.5ohms is where you'll wanna stay.
do you guys know where the best place to purchase ejuice from......I am currently getting mine from esmokey treats and they dont have the VG/PG blend that I am looking for...I want to try 30/70 PG/VG. Let me know...thanks!
Hello and welcome to the Forum!
In my experience, I've found that too much VG gives me a "heavy" feeling in my chest and too much PG tends to irritate my throat more than I'd like. Been all over the place with ratios and settled on 50/50. Good vapor production, good throat hit, less unpleasant throat/chest effects. Your miliage may vary of course
As far as atomizer's go, I keep 1.5, 2, and 2.5 ohm on hand and switch based on my juice I'm using at the time. Most of my juices are great on 1.5 ohm but some lose the subtle flavors at lower ohms. I'm vaping a mod that can handle the lower ohms though. On a regular battery, 2-2.5ohms is where you'll wanna stay.
Welcome to ECF!!
Well, there is no gold standard for vaping, everyone has a personal preference in batteries, PV's, APV's juice etc. However my advice, take it for what it is worth, these are my preferences
Juice - I tend to use 70/30 or 80/20. Yes 100% VG can produce more vapor, but I believe lacks in taste, and get clouds on my devices using PG primary
LR cartos / attys - I use them on 3.7 volt PV's or APV's only, However they can kill some ego / riva type batteries in short time
mAh ratings - the more mAh (miliamps per hour) the longer it will last before recharge
How to match it all up. Even though I have been vaping for over two years now I still reference this chart for advice
http://www.madvapes.com/Recommended-Resistances_b_57.html
Best of luck, stay off the analogs my friend!
Well, there is no gold standard for vaping, everyone has a personal preference in batteries, PV's, APV's juice etc. However my advice, take it for what it is worth, these are my preferences
Juice - I tend to use 70/30 or 80/20. Yes 100% VG can produce more vapor, but I believe lacks in taste, and get clouds on my devices using PG primary
LR cartos / attys - I use them on 3.7 volt PV's or APV's only, However they can kill some ego / riva type batteries in short time
mAh ratings - the more mAh (miliamps per hour) the longer it will last before recharge
How to match it all up. Even though I have been vaping for over two years now I still reference this chart for advice
http://www.madvapes.com/Recommended-Resistances_b_57.html
Best of luck, stay off the analogs my friend!
Welcome!
Tightness in chest hmmm.... sounds familiar! There are two things I can think of right off the bat:
1. Mild undiagnosed asthma - it is entirely possible to go your entire life with a mild case of asthma, and never know it; you could have written off the symptoms to the cigs, and now that your lung function has improved the symptoms are becoming more pronounced.
2. Smokers often take shallow breaths when smoking, specifically they tend not to exhale fully. This often becomes an unconscious habit which carries over into vaping. Breathing exercises will help tremendously - especially extended exhales.
Of course if there is any chest pain, see a doctor ASAP!
Good Luck and Happy Vaping!
Tightness in chest hmmm.... sounds familiar! There are two things I can think of right off the bat:
1. Mild undiagnosed asthma - it is entirely possible to go your entire life with a mild case of asthma, and never know it; you could have written off the symptoms to the cigs, and now that your lung function has improved the symptoms are becoming more pronounced.
2. Smokers often take shallow breaths when smoking, specifically they tend not to exhale fully. This often becomes an unconscious habit which carries over into vaping. Breathing exercises will help tremendously - especially extended exhales.
Of course if there is any chest pain, see a doctor ASAP!
Good Luck and Happy Vaping!
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