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Good. Maybe the politicians will wake up and realize, we will not go gently into that good night.
Anyone that is a single issue voter is an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Well, unless your single issue is that the politician not be an ...... ... but in that case they won't be voting anyway.
I really don't care whether or not a politician is an ...... if they have good policy. I vote for politicians based on their policy and not their personality or looks. If Elizabeth Warren was all good to go for vaping I still wouldn't want her for president because everything else she stands for is horrible. You need to look at the whole policy and not just any single issue.
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I guess in reality this kind of action isn't going to change the result of an election or elect a pro-vaping government. But it might get the attention of the politicians. Apparently it has already got the attention of some parts of the media.
It's a shame this level of activism by the industry wasn't in play earlier. It might have been a bit of a counterweight to the influence of the corporations and the social engineers and the tax collectors and all the rest of the anti-vaping actors.
It's a shame this level of activism by the industry wasn't in play earlier. It might have been a bit of a counterweight to the influence of the corporations and the social engineers and the tax collectors and all the rest of the anti-vaping actors.
For many people they see vaping as something that saved their life and a ban as an act that would cause them to return to smoking, and thus death. For these people the "single issue" you claim they are an idiot for is literally do they vote for themselves to live or die. Personally I am not one that would return to smoking, so I do get your point but if I was a person that would return to smoking, you bet your a** I would be voting to live.
My point is that anyone that is a single issue voter for ANY ISSUE is an idiot and shouldn't be allowed to vote. We're all going to die and returning back to cigarettes is a choice that an adult can choose or not. I will say again I don't care what happens with the vaping issue because I won't change how I vape in the least. The fact they are banning flavored ejuice shouldn't be the point as much as the government is BANNING ANYTHING from adults to choose period.
I think the CNN article isn't far off base as they have the spirit of it anyway.
The politicians this go around may try to capitalize on that spirit, but its just going to be for pretend; they care more about votes and money than they do people, and once the door is closed at the polling station they usually do whatever they feel most pushed monitarily to do, and that won't be supportive of vaping because we don't have the money lobby behind us..
I personally think Trump cares more about people and freedom than any other candidate, but the money lobby pushes him too, just not quite at the same level that past politicians were able to be pushed.
His base loves their freedom and he knows it, so he will tread more carefully between the money lobby and us though it still pushes him.
Come May 2020 no matter who is in office we are screwed as vapers, I'd like to see vaping a little less screwed, and I think as hard as the dems were going after vaping under Obama our best chances still lie with Trump.
Let's face it, if it weren't for a Trump presidency we wouldn't have had this long to stock up.. deeming would have hit long ago and all that goes along with it.
But the dems will try and use this issue as voting capital any way.. of that I have no doubt. I just won't be falling for it..
The politicians this go around may try to capitalize on that spirit, but its just going to be for pretend; they care more about votes and money than they do people, and once the door is closed at the polling station they usually do whatever they feel most pushed monitarily to do, and that won't be supportive of vaping because we don't have the money lobby behind us..
I personally think Trump cares more about people and freedom than any other candidate, but the money lobby pushes him too, just not quite at the same level that past politicians were able to be pushed.
His base loves their freedom and he knows it, so he will tread more carefully between the money lobby and us though it still pushes him.
Come May 2020 no matter who is in office we are screwed as vapers, I'd like to see vaping a little less screwed, and I think as hard as the dems were going after vaping under Obama our best chances still lie with Trump.
Let's face it, if it weren't for a Trump presidency we wouldn't have had this long to stock up.. deeming would have hit long ago and all that goes along with it.
But the dems will try and use this issue as voting capital any way.. of that I have no doubt. I just won't be falling for it..
That's your opinion. I will most likely be a single issue voter this upcoming election.
And how dare you call me an idiot and deny my right to vote because my choice is different from yours. That's part of the problem with our country.
From where I sit, my choices will be either a far left socialist or a far right ego maniac. It becomes a choice between the lesser of two evils. That's how I voted last election and I regret the choice I made then.
I may vote Libertarian, because unlike the other two parties they support my choice to vape. What do I have to lose? Voting for a third party is making a statement that I don't care for either Republican or Democratic policies.
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That's your opinion. I will most likely be a single issue voter this upcoming election.
From where I sit, my choices will be either a far left socialist or a far right ego maniac. It becomes a choice between the lesser of two evils.
I may vote Libertarian, because unlike the other two parties they don't want me to vape. What do I have to lose?
Yeah but that's not you literally changing your vote due to a single issue..
Your probably predisposed to voting for neither party candidate but likely usually stick with a libertarian anyway..
I doubt there will be many crossing party lines, even if Trump declared by the sweep of his hand all vaping products to be legal to be sold.
I think that's the main point.
When One starts to Tell Individuals how they Should or Shouldn't be able to Vote, that Invalidates a Lot of People who made the Ultimate Sacrifice to ensure that an Individual has a Right To Vote.
However, and for Whatever, an Individual Feels is Important.
You're making assumptions that are not true. You don't know me. So don't presume that you do.
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Commercialization of vaping IS the issue leading to run-away youth vaping. Remember this one? Best path is a ban on commercial advertising (or strictly controlled message, content and venue), ban sales by gas stations and convenience stores with strict enforcement of age requirements, and a standards-based approach that excludes lung irritants and harmful materials. And once again we can see that profit motive can run directly contrary to public benefit. Same issue with for-profit schools, prisons, and healthcare. Dunno, maybe force the separation of vaping and tobacco companies?
We also need public education that encourages the transition of smokers to vape. Smokers who switch should be praised and encouraged -- NOT demonized, excluded from employment, etc.
We also need public education that encourages the transition of smokers to vape. Smokers who switch should be praised and encouraged -- NOT demonized, excluded from employment, etc.
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No, I don't know you.. and I made assumptions..
But are you voting for a "far right egomaniac" because he's a little bit better for vaping than a "far left socialist"?
I find it doubtful, simply due to your word choice alone..
And a little bit better, is the best we can get against the money lobby, because they push both sides of the isle..
There are quite a few of our rights be trampled on already. What's the difference if another one is eliminated?
Another way of saying "the lesser of two evils". What I am saying is that's not the way I choose to vote this time around. I may not vote for either party, but a third one.
More government is never the answer. Are you also for convenience stores and gas stations being banned from selling alcohol and all other tobacco products?
That's your right to waste your vote. It's almost the same as not voting at all.
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