NextGen Atomizer

[BuzzKilla]

for reference, i am able to push my Kraken at 8.4V (unregulated), with a 1.2Ohm dual coil setup......
With some Dude-bro math and battery sag, i would assume it puts me in the 50W mark.

i put it in the same category as the Sat22... if you enjoy that atty, then this will work for you.
but for me, its just doesn't cut it.

Its a good setup, don't get me wrong. But it is nowhere near the "game changer" status, that people are creaming their pants over.

 

[EDO]

i put it in the same category as the Sat22... if you enjoy that atty, then this will work for you.
but for me, its just doesn't cut it.

Exactly...this has the same performance as the Sat22...which before the Nextgen was my favorite atty. However the Nextgen has 5ml capacity, easy filling without a needle, and is totally leak/flood proof. Also IMO it is far easier to set up the Nextgen vs the Sat22. I didn't think the SAT22 was all that great until I drilled it out...same with the Nextgen. Atties with small chambers definitely need to be drilled out if you are going to vape them at higher wattages. My Nextgen was hardly producing any significant vapor until I drilled it out. Now it is chucking vapor like my RDAs. Did you drill out the Nextgen? If not try drilling it out before throwing it in the bin.....you got nothing to lose.

 

[mail_man_j]

Ainako, im having almost the exact same experience with my clone from gearbest, told it was the yeashmo clone. I can get maybe a dozen hits before the resistance changes and i dry hit. Insulator is flopping around, the resistances aren't even close.

 

[ainako]

Ainako, im having almost the exact same experience with my clone from gearbest, told it was the yeashmo clone. I can get maybe a dozen hits before the resistance changes and i dry hit. Insulator is flopping around, the resistances aren't even close.

Out of the three I have I only have one that works consistently and does not have the insulator spinning on me. Damn shame as this a great atty. Guess the hunt for 1:1 clones begins

 

[WattWick]

for reference, i am able to push my Kraken at 8.4V (unregulated), with a 1.2Ohm dual coil setup......
With some Dude-bro math and battery sag, i would assume it puts me in the 50W mark.

i put it in the same category as the Sat22... if you enjoy that atty, then this will work for you.
but for me, its just doesn't cut it.

Its a good setup, don't get me wrong. But it is nowhere near the "game changer" status, that people are creaming their pants over.

I like the cyniscism

It's the usual gamechanger-curve:

Concept video: Wooow!
Select few luck early adopters: Best ever!
Handful more gets theirs: Yeah its neat.
Mass market + clones: It's an Atty that either works or not. Turns out it wasn't the one to reshape personal preferences in all humanity after all.

 

[Jethead]

From GearBest, how long did it take from shipping email comfirm till it hit your door in the USA?

 

[BuzzKilla]

Exactly...this has the same performance as the Sat22...which before the Nextgen was my favorite atty. However the Nextgen has 5ml capacity, easy filling without a needle, and is totally leak/flood proof. Also IMO it is far easier to set up the Nextgen vs the Sat22. I didn't think the SAT22 was all that great until I drilled it out...same with the Nextgen. Atties with small chambers definitely need to be drilled out if you are going to vape them at higher wattages. My Nextgen was hardly producing any significant vapor until I drilled it out. Now it is chucking vapor like my RDAs. Did you drill out the Nextgen? If not try drilling it out before throwing it in the bin.....you got nothing to lose.

I don't drill attys, they either work as intended or i move on.
There are too many options on the market for me to fiddle and play pretend-engineer, for me to attempt to improve an otherwise not impressive design.

I like the cyniscism

It's the usual gamechanger-curve:

Concept video: Wooow!
Select few luck early adopters: Best ever!
Handful more gets theirs: Yeah its neat.
Mass market + clones: It's an Atty that either works or not. Turns out it wasn't the one to reshape personal preferences in all humanity after all.

I've been around for a while, i grow tired of people saying, "its a game changer".
My typical response.... "Have you ever actually used it?"
It throws people off guard, It's how i have fun.

 

[TrollDragon]

Wow this is all quite dull. I had high hopes for this atty and my Yheashmo is still inbound via Singapore mail...

I just want a genesis that is pocketable and provides excellent flavor like the Origenny.

 

[EDO]

@Jethead...I live in Cali and it took 7 days to get to my door.

@TrollDragon...to me this is a game changing atty for sure...if you like the Sat 22 you will love this atty. IMO It vapes much better than Origenny once you drill it out....but I like a pretty airy draw...I have drilled out every atty I own including the Origenny.

@ anyone who buys the Nextgen and wants to drill it out, you can use 1/16 drill bit to make the two air holes bigger and then use a Dremel to join the holes. Don't use a 5/64 drill bit to make the holes bigger or else you will perforate the upper or lower part of the air intake bridge to atomizer chamber.

 

[TrollDragon]

Thanks @EDO!

I'll keep high hopes and wait and see how it all turns out when it finally arrives. If needed, my Dremel is close by.

 

[snow blind]

for reference, i am able to push my Kraken at 8.4V (unregulated), with a 1.2Ohm dual coil setup......
With some Dude-bro math and battery sag, i would assume it puts me in the 50W mark.

i put it in the same category as the Sat22... if you enjoy that atty, then this will work for you.
but for me, its just doesn't cut it.

Its a good setup, don't get me wrong. But it is nowhere near the "game changer" status, that people are creaming their pants over.

I agree. Comparing something like the Kraken / RSST to a reduced chamber and airflow Sat or Next Gen is nonsensical at best. The only similarity being bottom feeding and mesh. That's like comparing an Igo L to a Mutation X.

What build were you using on your NG? I messed around with maybe 6 before i found "my perfect build".

For someone like me who prefers my genesis atomizers to be a tighter mouth to lung with super warm and intense flavor... it is a complete game changer... and i've been using genesis atomizers since well... the beginning. I've owned the vast majority of them and in over 6 years of vaping and i've never experienced such a perfect combination of form, function and operation as i have with the Next Gen. All this is completely personal and everyone's experience will differ. For me the vacuum feeding is the game changer.
The wick is constantly, fully saturated even under higher watts than you should be running in such a small chamber with restricted airflow... really can't cause a dry hit at all. It's super easy to build... even easier than the stellar In'ax... it will NOT leak in any orientation i've experienced... super easy to top fill by just literally dumping juice straight from a bottle... the flavor is extremely dense... there is an option to purchase the dual air hole AFC ring from VapeWareMods... and it freaking hold 5mls of juice in a package as tall as the Sat!

It is completely a game changer for a non-cloud chasing, flavor-centric genesis user like myself. YMMV

 

[snow blind]

Wow this is all quite dull. I had high hopes for this atty and my Yheashmo is still inbound via Singapore mail...

I just want a genesis that is pocketable and provides excellent flavor like the Origenny.

The NG will NOT put out the same amount of vapor as the Origenny; however, the flavor is much, much better IMHO. I love my Origenny V2 but i find it to be a better tasting Kraken or RSM Rocket. The NG is the upfront flavor of a Sat22 or Lon with MUCH better wicking. If you prefer a dual coil airy genny to a restrictive reduced chamber single coil genny you might not like the NG.

 

[BuzzKilla]

I would have to disagree on the flavor aspect.....

ANY atty can produce amazing flavor.
With the correct build and the appropriate amount of power, you can make any setup into a flavor machine.

Flavor means nothing without an appropriate amount of heat to back it up.
But this is just my opinion. You guys can still call this a flavor machine if that justifies you spending you time on it.... I'll still call it junk.

 

[snow blind]

I would have to disagree on the flavor aspect.....

ANY atty can produce amazing flavor.
With the correct build and the appropriate amount of power, you can make any setup into a flavor machine.

Flavor means nothing without an appropriate amount of heat to back it up.
But this is just my opinion. You guys can still call this a flavor machine if that justifies you spending you time on it.... I'll still call it junk.

Hey man to each his/her own... i can completely understand as i've totally hated some RBAs that the masses have raved about. (I ....ing detest the Plume Veil, Aeolus and Kennedy RDAs with a burning passion.)

And I also agree on the build. If you can't build, or understand what "type" of build a certain type of genesis needs... you're working with 40% potential, if that. Most just starting out with genesis atomizers, esp. after coming from/starting on, these 3rd gen RDAs are doing it completely and comically wrong. Many of them will simply not understand, appreciate or enjoy the NG or any single coil restrictive genny for that matter. (Not saying you fall into that camp mind you - as i know you dont.)

 

[BuzzKilla]

I ****ing detest the Plume Veil,

I have the opposite feelings towards the Plume.... i wont hate you for it thought. We can still be friends.

 

[snow blind]

I have the opposite feelings towards the Plume.... i wont hate you for it thought. We can still be friends.

Well it does look damn pretty on the VCO i can't deny that! lol I think my major problems with it were the negative post air holes that always leaked on me (i ended up packing those .....es with tiny pieces of cotton lol) and the piddly spinning top delrin section would never stay at the same height i had it at if i walked around with the mod. Same issue with the Hobo's top section... though the new V3 Hobo looks Fn' epic!!!

 

[EDO]

If you prefer a dual coil airy genny to a restrictive reduced chamber single coil genny you might not like the NG.

In general I prefer dual coil atties over single coil atties, but once you drill out the Nextgen it will out vapor even dual coil atties like the Origen Genesis or the Kraken. I don't quite get it but it produces ridiculous amounts of vapor. The same build in my RSST (drilled out 3.2mm airhole) produces half the vapor that I get on my NG. I drilled out my Kraken both airholes 2.8mm and still I get more vapor off of the NG (same build in both but the Kraken is set up as a dual coil).

 

[Jethead]

That's awesome, WISH IT WASN'T SO HARD TO GET!

 

[nelsonm64]

I am amazed by this NextGen genny! when I first started vaping I used gennies but got tired of the LEAKING! so when the kayfun came out I was all over that... the flavor wasn't as good (not as clean) but it didn't leak and performed well. I have tried a couple gennies since then, like the kraken, didn't care for it. BUT, this little guy is awesome!!! typical clean genesis flavor been using it as my daily driver for around a week now infact I ordered another one... im surprised there's not more love

 

[k2zs]

I have 2 of them coming from GB. I have some 400 mesh but want to try that 200/400 build, where can I find SS Mesh online?