Nic content and throat hit

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Sandybeach40

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I just started vaping 5 or 6 day's ago, and the only thing is after being a heavy cigg smoker all the time / every moment / anyway so that I can get my nicotine, I find it difficult to mimic my cigg habit. I would light and draw, and hit that 100 mm about 17 times, and by then it was poking the filter, and out.
in the am after wake up, I would need to chain 3 ciggs to get my makeup.

Now, with the vaping 24 mg nic with a Vg base...I just feel that i don't know when to walk away from the darn thing.
In the morning...it's rough, and I super draw so th juice gets on my lips and cheeks. It doesn't bother me to swallow it either. I've done the chew thing too, and I would swallow the juice a little to get the nic; and especially if I was irritated or siked up about something.

My problem is...and this sounds stupid, but I just don't know when enough is enough nicotine for me. It's like...If i'm getting more than a cigg gave me....I want more More MORE!!!!
I mean..now the ole lady is on my case about setting up my nic fixes with my dropper bottle every 25 hits. LOL..
I tell her..."I'm just new at this, and I'm waiting for the Change Stabilization!" ... Yeah! Right!.. Believe that, and I'll tell another one. Ha Ha Ha .....

I chain vape when I'm at home on 11mg nic. You would think I'm super addicted to this thing but I'm not. When I'm at work now that I'm a vaporer I dont look at the clock counting down to my smoke break. When I'm in a store and my kids are stressing me out I'm not thinking of hurrying up to get done and vape. If I ran out of juice I think I would be alright for a few days.
 

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I am pretty sure a few drops of 100mg nicotine on your skin and you die or can die. I wouldn't advise vaping it..

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I don't think ANYONE who REMOTELY knows what they're talking about would recomend vaping 100mg nic juice straight, what I do is mix my 36mg liquid (that can be purchased anywhere) into 42mg liquid (which is considerably harder to find) by adding a small amount of higher nic juice (I recommended 100mg, b/c with 48mg unflavored you're going to 'wash-out' ALOT of flavor, whereas with 100mg it will only take a little to 'bump-up' your 36 to 42) You'll notice in my post, I do not even recommend vaping 48mg, as this is too high even for me, and I am a HEAVY vaper (as I was a HEAVY smoker)!!
(FWIW: with 100mg nic liquid, it would take just over 1ml completely absorbed through the skin to kill a smoker, about half that to kill a non-smoker, but if it didn't kill you, you would likely be VERY, VERY sick)

SO, to further qualify, in case anyone else was confused by what I said:
DO NOT VAPE 100mg ELIQUID!! YOU WILL END UP IN THE HOSPITAL, IF YOU SURVIVE!!! AND DO WEAR PROTECTIVE GLOVES AND, PREFERABLY, A MASK AND EYE PROTECTION WHEN HANDLING HIGH NIC JUICES (anything 48mg or higher)!
 
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all the 100mg stuff i have seen is straight nic juice which needs to be mixed with flavor and PG or VG based liquid depending on which one you get...



I didnt start vaping to stop smoking by any means....i love smoking. i just didnt like spending 5 bucks a day or more on cigs and not being able to smoke anywhere......i will never quit being addicted to nicotine....just now i have found a healthier and cheaper way to fullfill my nicotine addiction!!!

I didn't start vaping to quit smoking either, but it seems to be happening. I had gotten used to the crappy taste of the cheap cigarettes I was buying, and when I tasted the tobacco flavor of my e-cig.........it tasted great! I had forgotten what "real" tobacco flavor was.
 

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I'm going to side with BobTheKlown. From what I've read, it only takes 60mg of nicotine to kill someone. The nic strength of liquids are mg of nicotine per ml of liquid. So, 100mg nic is per 1ml of juice (that means less than 1ml of liquid, if used/absorbed quickly can kill a person). Considering a cartomizer may hold 1-2 ml of juice, chain vaping 100mg liquid could possibly poison someone.

On another note, vaping IS NOT the same as smoking. You will not get the same "buzz" from vaping as you will from smoking an analog (certain thoughts are that it is the carbon monoxide in cigarette smoke that leads to loss of oxygen in the brain which contributes to the "buzz"). Upping the nicotine will only get one so far in curbing the need for an analog. Upping the nicotine to unsafe levels is not a good idea. As far I know, 48+ nic is intended to be cut for DIY.

Those with more/better information are welcome to correct me.
 

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I recently received a juice that is supposed to be 24 mg nic in an 80/20 PG/VG solution. I vape at 3.7 v with a 2.5 ohm atomizer. I get huge vapor and good flavor, but absolutely no throat hit. Is that possible? Can you have 24 mg nic and no throat hit? If so, that's great. I don't care that much for throat hit anyway.

Yes, it's possible, depending on who the supplier is. I received 6 different flavors from a juice supplier and could receive no throat hits from any of them. My order was for 24mg, aggressive TH, double shots, and 100%PG. I was told by the owner that he can only add so much grain alcohol before it degrades the juice.
 

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might have to give it a try.......i just love FSUSA so much im scared to try something else!!!

You should be scared! :) The four bottles I bought from MFS had less flavor and less THs than FSUSA. One of them now tastes like a foot (cheesecake). (Of course, I won't ever vape that one again...)
 

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yeah i do wake up with headaches in the morning on the weekends cause i vape alot on friday and sat night cause im drinking...but i love the buzz and TH!!.........its just like any other drug though, your body builds a tolerance to it and now that i have been vaping 36mg for awhile now im used to it.....

i have cut down my vaping to only when my friends at work go outside for a smoke
 

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I'm a noob but from my youtube research if i understand correctly , you will get a much better throat hit with 100% PG juice. But you will not get very much , if any exhaled vapor . So a slight tradeoff.

I am not sure the pg/vg content of the current juice i have. I assume it's a mix because throat hit is there and great vapor production but I'm gonna shop around next time at a store where i can choose content better. Would like to try and dominant pg juice with very little vg.
 

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I just started Vaping 5 or 6 day's ago, and the only thing is after being a heavy cigg smoker all the time / every moment / anyway so that I can get my nicotine, I find it difficult to mimic my cigg habit. I would light and draw, and hit that 100 mm about 17 times, and by then it was poking the filter, and out.
in the am after wake up, I would need to chain 3 ciggs to get my makeup.

Now, with the Vaping 24 mg nic with a Vg base...I just feel that i don't know when to walk away from the darn thing.
In the morning...it's rough, and I super draw so th juice gets on my lips and cheeks. It doesn't bother me to swallow it either. I've done the chew thing too, and I would swallow the juice a little to get the nic; and especially if I was irritated or siked up about something.

My problem is...and this sounds stupid, but I just don't know when enough is enough nicotine for me. It's like...If i'm getting more than a cigg gave me....I want more More MORE!!!!
I mean..now the ole lady is on my case about setting up my nic fixes with my dropper bottle every 25 hits. LOL..
I tell her..."I'm just new at this, and I'm waiting for the Change Stabilization!" ... Yeah! Right!.. Believe that, and I'll tell another one. Ha Ha Ha .....

I had the same problem when I first started ecigs. I loved the flavors so much that I used the ecig WAAAAAAAAAAAY more than I should have. Seemed as if I couldn't get the "edge" to give way. Went higher in nic content and it soothed the inner beast. You may want to try a bottle of higher nic. Then wean yourself down.
 

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I'm a noob but from my youtube research if i understand correctly , you will get a much better throat hit with 100% PG juice. But you will not get very much , if any exhaled vapor . So a slight tradeoff.

I am not sure the pg/vg content of the current juice i have. I assume it's a mix because throat hit is there and great vapor production but I'm gonna shop around next time at a store where i can choose content better. Would like to try and dominant pg juice with very little vg.

MFS carries both or you can get a mix.
 

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I had the same problem when I first started ecigs. I loved the flavors so much that I used the ecig WAAAAAAAAAAAY more than I should have. Seemed as if I couldn't get the "edge" to give way. Went higher in nic content and it soothed the inner beast. You may want to try a bottle of higher nic. Then wean yourself down.
I'd rather try and tame myself rather than go to a higher nic %. After a few more days, I found if I drip like three drops direct into the atty...then I get a better amount of vapor and also a satisfied feeling that I got enough from the few drags.
Normally, when i smoked in the house, it was by a powerful exhaust hood over my stove in the kitchen. 1500 cfm is a lot of exhaust, and that was my smoking station. so I found myself walking away from the ashtray and piled up butts there to entice me. Now I carry and Vape even as I walk through room to room. It is allowing the e-cig to be my constant buddy, and crutch.
Like now, I'm at the kitchen computer, and "My e-cig Buddy" is at my side. At least it is not sitting here vaping by itself like a cigarette would. I would not normally sit here and do analogue anyway. My wife would kill me.

I did notice one thing though! If i vape and curl the exhale through my nose and out, I get a better hit and satisfaction.
I mean...I'm a pro with even recirculating exhaled recidual even from my mouth and back into the nose for a better absroption.
Still can't make a ring inside a ring though. LOL

One more thing if I may/? ... I don't get headaches anymore like when I smoked cigarettes. I would generally have a headache every day almost. Now I don't get them?//??? Like Yabba Dabba Doo!
 
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