Nic Salts eLiquid - 50/50 PG/VG hits the throat

[Shamiester]

Howdy All,

Glad to be here with my first ever post. I just switched to vapping from smoking for over 15 yrs (10-15 cigs a day). I bought my self a Pod base smok Infinix with two different brand/flavor Nicotine Salts eliquids.

One is NKD American Patriots Tobacco with 50mg Nicotine and 50/50 PG/VG
Other is Mango twist by PodJuice with 35mg Nicotine and 50/50 PG/VG

Problem is, NKD liquid is hitting my throat really hard, same with PodJuice but not as hard. Not sure if its due to the brand or nicotine level or PG/VG. I understand VG gives you throat hit and PG gives you vapor production (among other things), but upon doing some research I got conflicting information, some saying reduce PG and others saying reduce VG.

So do I need to look for a nic salt juice that has lesser PG or VG and/and different brands? Also could you recommend the best PG/VG ratio and any websites where I can get them from?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Izan]

Howdy All,

Glad to be here with my first ever post. I just switched to vapping from smoking for over 15 yrs (10-15 cigs a day). I bought my self a Pod base Smok Infinix with two different brand/flavor Nicotine Salts eLiquids.

One is NKD American Patriots Tobacco with 50mg Nicotine and 50/50 PG/VG
Other is Mango twist by PodJuice with 35mg Nicotine and 50/50 PG/VG

Problem is, NKD liquid is hitting my throat really hard, same with PodJuice but not as hard. Not sure if its due to the brand or nicotine level or PG/VG. I understand VG gives you throat hit and PG gives you vapor production (among other things), but upon doing some research I got conflicting information, some saying reduce PG and others saying reduce VG.

So do I need to look for a nic salt juice that has lesser PG or VG and different brands? Also could you recommend any websites where I can get nic salt juice with different pg/vg ratio?

Thanks in advance.

Hi and welcome,
Since both juices are the same PG/VG ratio, the only difference between them is the nicotine level.
If they are too strong, select a juice with a lower nicotine level.

HTH
I

 

[Izan]

Hey thanks for that. So you believe its because of the nicotine level? I get bad throat hit with 35mg as well. Other reason is Im using nic salts and going any lower in MG will deceive the purpose and I won't get the proper nicotine, if that makes sense?

You may need to vape more frequently with a lower nicotine level.

Cheers
I

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

Welcome to ECF Shamiester
You could also change the PG/VG ratio, it's the PG that will give you more of a throat hit NOT the VG like you said in your post.
So if you Increase the VG ratio that could possibly help

 

[Shamiester]

Thanks everyone again for the very warm welcome and very helpful insights. I'm going to try different things till I get the right balance. Might it be a different device etc.

I will keep you guys posted.

 

[HigherStateD]

Hey thanks for that. So you believe its because of the nicotine level? I get bad throat hit with 35mg as well. Other reason is Im using nic salts and going any lower in MG will deceive the purpose and I won't get the proper nicotine, if that makes sense?

PG can give throat hit, but not as much as nicotine. Different salts are different also. Unfortunately, the infinix may not handle juice higher than 65% VG. You'll end up with dry hits, which would give even more of a throat hit.

Are you chain vaping, by chance?

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Welcome to ECF, Shamiester.

 

[Shamiester]

PG can give throat hit, but not as much as nicotine. Different salts are different also. Unfortunately, the infinix may not handle juice higher than 65% VG. You'll end up with dry hits, which would give even more of a throat hit.

Are you chain vaping, by chance?

Thanks, have you tried infinix with more than 65% VG?

I believe I'm vaping quite often, could say chain vaping, but its only been two full days since I started and because of the throat hit I'm not quite enjoying it. I'm however getting my nicotine fix which is still keeping me away from cigarettes.

Do you know any brands that i can get 40/60 PG/VG with 35mg?

 

[vaper1960]

Simple solution... go to the drug store and get some Glycerin (USP) Mix some in your juice. This will increase VG ratio and lower nic level. You will just have to vape a bit more but at least you will enjoy it. Try 2 parts juice to 1 part VG. It will dilute the flavor though.

 

[Shamiester]

Welcome and glad you joined.
My guess that the nic your using is harsh (might ask a friend to test). I would also check and see if PG is causing the harshness. Suggest getting a small bottle of vegetable glycerin and see if your harshness goes away (then add some P/G free nic and see if that makes a difference).
Suggest you read:
DIY e-liquid Mixing. Learn how to make your own e-liquids
How and Where to Buy Nicotine from Australia
Could see :Section 2: Vaping-related issues
V1. Dry Throat, Sore Throat
A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette
PG Sensitivity
Allergies, Conditions and E-Liquid - The Complete Guide to E-Cig Safety

That is some great insight on everything, thanks for sharing BB. I will go through this and try different options till I get the right balance of everything to actually enjoy vaping and steer away from cigarettes. Thanks again

 

[charlie1465]

Welcome to the friendly bunch

Apart from the PG nic is the biggest supplier of throat hit in vaping. The best thing you could do is make sure you vape a high VG juice in a suitable juice. You're giving up smoking so you'll need the high nic. My other bit of advice is throat hit is often dependant on device type and to some extent style of vaping so look into maybe changing ecig. I know that some of my best throat hit vapes come from my pods which is likely what you are using with the nic strength you're on...

 

[Shamiester]

Hi and welcome,
Since both juices are the same PG/VG ratio, the only difference between them is the nicotine level.
If they are too strong, select a juice with a lower nicotine level.

HTH
I

Hey thanks for that. So you believe its because of the nicotine level? I get bad throat hit with 35mg as well. Other reason is Im using nic salts and going any lower in MG will deceive the purpose and I won't get the proper nicotine, if that makes sense?

 

[YorkMan]

Welcome! 50mg nicotine is a high concentration. Everyone is different but I find 25mg nic salt to be harsh. Keep experimenting and you will find your sweet spot.

 

[Shamiester]

You may need to vape more frequently with a lower nicotine level.

Cheers
I

Agree, I'm kinda chain vaping with the 35mg liquid I have, which isnt as bad as the 50mg but still get the throat hit, its not smooth.

 

[Shamiester]

Welcome! 50mg nicotine is a high concentration. Everyone is different but I find 25mg nic salt to be harsh. Keep experimenting and you will find your sweet spot.

Thanks. I believe I'm okay with 35mg. The problem is I live in Australia and eliquids with nicotine are not legal here, so I have to get them shipped from US/Canada or New Zealand, which make its quite costly (e.g. US$35 for 30ml) and delivery time of at least a week to keep on trying. But I guess there is no other choice.

 

[Shamiester]

Welcome to ECF, Shamiester.

Thank you

 

[HigherStateD]

I believe the problem may be the PG, but more likely, that's being worsened by the heat generated on the coil from repeated cycles.

You might just want to try a higher power device.

 

[Shamiester]

I believe the problem may be the PG, but more likely, that's being worsened by the heat generated on the coil from repeated cycles.

You might just want to try a higher power device.

I'm planning on changing the POD every 2-3 refills. So far I have only changed one pod.

Is there another better high power open pod system device available?

 

[Shamiester]

Simple solution... go to the drug store and get some Glycerin (USP) Mix some in your juice. This will increase VG ratio and lower nic level. You will just have to vape a bit more but at least you will enjoy it. Try 2 parts juice to 1 part VG. It will dilute the flavor though.

Thanks, that's not a bad idea and I will try this for the 2x35ml liquid I already have.

But the question is, what's the long term solution. The reason I choose the pod base system was the convenience of it all, where you just change the pod and off you and don't have to worry about liquids and coils and tanks etc and just enjoy it, if that makes sense.

 

[HigherStateD]

Thanks, that's not a bad idea and I will try this for the 2x35ml liquid I already have.

But the question is, what's the long term solution. The reason I choose the pod base system was the convenience of it all, where you just change the pod and off you and don't have to worry about liquids and coils and tanks etc and just enjoy it, if that makes sense.

The highest power pod with nonreplacable coils I know of is the Orion DNA go, but that might be Overkill. I personally don't like that style, so I'm not well versed, but you might also look at the Orion DNA quest. I like my pods to be coil independent, like the Smok Nord and geekvape frenzy.