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It is miscible with both, but more easily with PG. Once in solution nic should not separate unless you heat it up a lot. Incomplete mixing in VG has been suspected in the past, so some shaking/stirring is not a bad idea. This is especially the case with unthinned VG-nic, although I've not heard about "hot spots" being found in the last few years. It was an issue about 5 years ago. Most vendors completely mix their VG-nics these days, I believe, but stirring before storing is not a bad idea. And many use some water or even ethanol to thin their DIY VG-nic.
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I vape about 10ml's a day... Of course I cannot tell the future, but i'm thinking to vape as long as i breath :)

Has anyone tried adjusting their nic upwards to lower consumption? I personally vape 3 ml each day at 5 mg - a total of 15mg nicotine. What if I went to 6 mg instead, and reduced my intake to 2.5 ml? In either case I am consuming 15 mg of nicotine each day. The question is, whether our bodies will automatically lower the consumption, or are we likely to consume the same amount of ml as before?
 
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Has anyone tried lowering their consumption by increasing their mg's ? I personally vape 3 ml each day at 5 mg - a total of 15mg nicotine each day. What if I went to 6 mg instead and reduced my intake to 2.5 ml? In either case I am consuming 15 mg of nicotine each day. The question is, whether our bodies will automatically lower the consumption, or are we likely to consume the same amount of ml as before?
Yeah, for me personally atleast, then if I up the nic then I vape less, period, and always reproducible... That's also why I have gradually lowered my nic down, and now down to 3mg which i'm very content with and planning to stick on, since then I can vape more throughout the day/night, which I love, without beeing nic-sick i.e. nausea and dizzyness.
 

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I can vape more throughout the day/night, which I love, without being nic-sick i.e. nausea and dizzyness.

I do not get nausous or dizzy from lack of nicotine, but I do get grouchy like an old fool - the guy who yells at everybody to get off his lawn !!
 

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Yes, me too... I meant when getting to much nic from vapin to much... Even now at 3mg I at times take the ecig up towards my mouth by habbit, but have to stop hitting it, since I can feel I have to much nic in my system allready, although it's much less happening now on 3mg... When I have had too much nic, then I often still hold the mod in my hand and sometimes rest the driptip on my lower lip, like a pacifier, I must admit! :)

Btw, I vape through inhalling direct to the lungs which is also why I can get away with such low nic. Also, I find this vaping technique to greatly enhance the flavor of the vape, and also very much noticable with unflavored...
 
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Has anyone tried adjusting their nic upwards to lower consumption?
I honestly have never tried it but for myself, I feel it would not lower my consumption, and I'll tell you why. I am using very low nicotine, 2mg to be exact, at this point I don't necessarily feel I vape for the nicotine consumption. I think I vape for one of the strongest addictions other than the nic. That being to have something to do with my hands, the action of smoking (Though vapeing), the feeling of the vapor going in my lungs and blowing it out. If you were a smoker, you know what I'm talking about. Anyway, I think I would just use more nic and vape the same. That's just me though, others may be able to do it. All I can say is you should try it. Being every person is different it may work for you.........
 

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I'm with you Ray, fully, but for me, then I would simply _have_ to adjust down, for not getting sick... Every time I get too much nic, then i'll have to wait at least an hour to an hour and a half, before I can hit it again... It happens rarelly now on 3 mg, but I often have to just take a little break I can feel, no matter if "my hands" would like to take a drag... Ok, I could probably take some small mtl drags still, but i'm just so used to direct lung inhales by now...
 

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Ok, I could probably take some small mtl drags still, but i'm just so used to direct lung inhales by now...
Well Ray has been holding out on ya. I smoked a whole lot of years and was diagnosed with beginning stages of copd. Technically I was not able to subohm because my lungs could not take it. Good news though, Temp control has allowed me to subohm without coughing my .... off YEAAAAAA !!! OK, Vape habits. I'm sitting here typing at you vaping a non subohm mod and hitting on it fairly often. In between I'll pick up my IPV4s with Crown in temp mode and take a big ole hit. So, I guess you can say I'm taking a break by hitting on a non subohm setup.......
 

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Has anyone tried adjusting their nic upwards to lower consumption? I personally vape 3 ml each day at 5 mg - a total of 15mg nicotine. What if I went to 6 mg instead, and reduced my intake to 2.5 ml? In either case I am consuming 15 mg of nicotine each day. The question is, whether our bodies will automatically lower the consumption, or are we likely to consume the same amount of ml as before?
In one year I went from 24 mg 4 ml/day to 9 mg 5 ml/day. I believe it is not nic by itself but overall juice consumption that (may be) is harmful.
 

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In one year I went from 24 mg 4 ml/day to 9 mg 5 ml/day.
Yes, Not quite the same but I went from 18mg to 2mg in about 8 months. Basically the way I did it was drop 2mg of nicotine every 100 mls of juice. At the time I was not doing subohm. Though I never tried to drop nicotine while doing subohm, I'm guessing if one were to drop 1/2mg per 100mls or so it might be equivolent. Dropping small amounts of nic per each 100ml blend was technically unnoticable for the most part......
 
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I have found that with equipment upgrades I dropped my nic. I still have some juice I make at 12 but mostly now I vape around 3 to 6,depending on brand of nic too. as far as consumption I vape more than I ever did ,but again delivery systems are better,more satisfying vape and because I DIY I dont worry about costs.
 

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Was going to post how bitey HLV nic was compared to NN...but...

Update: Just read the bite could be that it is fresh nicotine. This from Jake at NN on Reddit:

"[–]NudeNicotine

In addition, a fresher nicotine base will have a definite bite on the i hale, much more pronounced and biologically active than oxidized nicotine"

I have a new order of NN coming in and will update when that gets here to see if it has the same amount of bite the HL has.
 
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I just saw something that contradicts the popular belief on this thread - that oxidized nicotine has more bite. The following link from Nude Nicotine indicates just the opposite.

It states in relevant parts that:
"Nicotine concentration is a key indicator of solution integrity – oxidation of solution can lower active L-nicotine ‘bite’ for a less potent formulation, even at the advertised mg/mL concentration."

And here is the link itself:
"Mini Profile" - Nicotine + Diketones - Nude Nicotine

They also seem to imply that a nicotine solution by itself can contain Diketones - even without added flavorings.

Am I reading this correctly?
 
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I just saw something that contradicts what I have been reading on this thread - that oxidized nicotine has more bite. The following link from Nude Nicotine indicates just the opposite.
The link states in relevant parts that:

"Nicotine concentration is a key indicator of solution integrity – oxidation of solution can lower active L-nicotine ‘bite’ for a less potent formulation, even at the advertised mg/mL concentration."

And here is the link itself:

"Mini Profile" - Nicotine + Diketones - Nude Nicotine

They also seem to imply that a nicotine solution by itself can contain Diketones - even without added flavorings.

Am I reading this correctly?
That's just their "mini test" - they test for nicotine levels and diketone levels.
 
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