Nicotine Comparisons

[WillyZee]

You mean it's , Worse ??

Let me put it this way ... USPS is reasonably priced and provides amazing service ... I love everything about USPS ... from their "if it fits, it ships" to the Sat. Delivery.

Americans would be shocked to pay the rates we do up here in Canada ... and the service? not even close to the awesome service USPS provides.


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[aldenf]

Let me put it this way ... USPS is reasonably priced and provides amazing service ... I love everything about USPS ... from their "if it fits, it ships" to the Sat. Delivery.

Americans would be shocked to pay the rates we do up here in Canada ... and the service? not even close to the awesome service USPS provides.

As much as we are frustrated by and complain abut the USPS, Americans would be appalled by what most of the rest of the planet suffers as postal service.

 

[Capt.shay]

Well, I just sat down and gave my three nic.'s a good sniff. I did my test at room temperature as I feel warmer temperatures bring out odors the best.

My perceptions were as follows.

VT Throat Hit, fresh just recieved: This nic. smells very mild and quite clean. It was so mild that I decanted some in to a beaker and gave it a swirl to give it a good sniff and I still feel this has a very mild smell. There is definitely some of the slight ammonia/wood smell that I have found in all the nic.s I have sampled so far and I certainly would not call it clean but it is very mild. I am freezing most of this but will keep a sample out and revisit in a few days to see if/how re-bottling and a little air exposer effects it. Not vaped yet.

Carolina Extract, out of freezer 2 days: When I received this sample I commented on how strong I found the woody smell in this nic. It isn't a real ammonia type but a strong woody smell. The freshly thawed sample seemed unchanged. I found this sample to be almost even in strength of odor as the Hartland but different. I found the Carolina taste to be almost neutral/disappear when vaped. ***This is the first nic. I have ever used that is VG based and I wonder how that is effecting my perception. I reserve the right to alter my opinion once I have ordered up a bottle of PG base from Carolina to test.

Hartland Vapes, out of the freezer about a week: This has been a go to nic. for me for a while and I have been very happy with it. While I feel this is a fairly mild nic it is still has a noticeable odor that is on par with the Carolina and stronger that the VT TH. I would describe its taste as middle of the road and the throat hit medium to medium mild.

Well, that's it for a sniff test. I'll try to rope in some volunteers for a taste test soon.

 

[440BB]

I'm having a hard time finding a reason to hold off on the VT TH. I'm thinking that if I get the argon gas dispenser that I can minimize any further oxidation when I decant it into glass.

 

[Capt.shay]

I really don't think I would bother with the Argon. From every thing I have heard and read, sub zero temperatures with minimal head room should hold nic. in stasis for a very, very long time. But, I don't suppose it could hurt.

As for the VT TH nic., with the smell I'm getting, I can't believe it hits any harder than what I perceive as middle of the road nics. But, more shall be revealed

 

[52anddone]

Been gone for about a week and haven't been able to play (mix) much, but, I mixed up some 6mg/ml Unflavored ECX and some Unflavored 9mg/ml RTS to compare the TH. They are really, really close to the same TH comparing to each other, as far as I am concerned. I'm not really gonna go any higher in strength for any additional testing. To be blunt though, ECX Nic is just barely sufficient for me in the TH catagory at 6mg/ml strength, so I'll wait for my order of Arabic HS and mix that with ECX at 6mg/ml and see how all that shakes out (I might even live on the Wild side and go All The Way up to 9mg/ml, if I can get away with it), or I might try Rayon again at 6mg/ml to see how that effects TH (but not both at the same time). This should be fun though, at any rate, it will keep me off the streets.

 

[herb]

Just received the VT throat hit nicotine. Went to mix a 10mg sample up .... and goofed... accidentally used my 8mg base instead of plain vg. what is essentially 16mg is vry smooth. Will have to try a corrected sample tonight. I always try a new nicotine at 10mg to get a feel for how it tastes. This nic definately has a strong scent to it, but so far the taste and throat hit are very smooth.

I barely notice any scent at all with VT TH , it doesn't smell anywhere remotely close to the strong more peppery smell i got from other nicotines i have tried most notably ECX and MFS.

 

[sketchness]

I barely notice any scent at all with VT TH , it doesn't smell anywhere remotely close to the strong more peppery smell i got from other nicotines i have tried most notably ECX and MFS.

I agree it is very mild compared to nicotine river or heartland vapes. Haven't tried the two you listed but they are all in the same neighborhood. This is just my observation. Compared to nude and Carolina the scent is strong to me. But it is a great nic at that price in my opinion. I will probably buy another liter after the holidays. Need to buy a chest freezer as well. My freezer is getting packed.

 

[herb]

Just when you think your figuring out what nic to try someone throws a wrench into your plans by saying they observed the opposite with a certain nicotine brand , it's hopeless lol.

 

[Dixie1954]

I re-smelled the VT TH and IMHO it smells like the premium in that it smells like Acetyl Pyrazine (which would make me gag if it was any stronger ), but thankfully it tastes like a very very weak tobacco and since that is what I vape I like it all by itself. It is #3 of my ADVs.

 

[52anddone]

it smells like Acetyl Pyrazine

I imagine that Acetyl Pyrazine smells like Acetyl Pyrazine, but what does that smell like if one has never smelled Acetyl Pyrazine , Just curious.

 

[Dixie1954]

I will post a copy of TFAs description "Roasted, nutty, bready and yeasty, with popcorn and corn chip nuances,good for graham cracker flavors (enhancer)." It is in tons of flavorings/eliquids. Even diluted I could not stand the smell and/or taste. It is in most bakery,the good chocolates,and even in a lot of tobaccos. YMMV

 

[52anddone]

I will post a copy of TFAs description "Roasted, nutty, bready and yeasty, with popcorn and corn chip nuances,good for graham cracker flavors (enhancer)." It is in tons of flavorings/eliquids. Even diluted I could not stand the smell and/or taste. It is in most bakery,the good chocolates,and even in a lot of tobaccos. YMMV

Thanks for the reply Dixie. Wow, That covers quite a wide ranging spectrum. I think I will just stay away from it, it sounds too busy for me.

 

[aikanae1]

I re-smelled the VT TH and IMHO it smells like the premium in that it smells like Acetyl Pyrazine (which would make me gag if it was any stronger ), but thankfully it tastes like a very very weak tobacco and since that is what I vape I like it all by itself. It is #3 of my ADVs.

wow. You weren't kidding that you are sensitive to smells and tastes. What did you think of the TH?

 

[aikanae1]

Thanks for the reply Dixie. Wow, That covers quite a wide ranging spectrum. I think I will just stay away from it, it sounds too busy for me.

Keep in mind that everyone's very different in their perceptions of flavors and smells and what they are looking for. That flavor she described is in a lot of tobacco's which is a flavor you seemed to be looking for based on your earlier post. VT is known for being one of the cleaner tasting nics.

It's hard to get a perspective on nic comparisons when some rate nic based on how flavorful they are and prefer TH, while others want no flavor and no TH. It can seem very contridictory without understanding each poster's preferance.

 

[52anddone]

It's hard to get a perspective on nic comparisons when some rate nic based on how flavorful they are and prefer TH, while others want no flavor and no TH. It can seem very contridictory without understanding each poster's preferance.

I hear that I do. That's why I started reading this thread from the first post on up to here, and even then, I still have to keep going back and re-read prior posts so that what I am reading makes sense and I don't misinterpret a point that someone is trying to make. Then, there's the taste thing , I'm glad I'm simple minded and just like Unflavored (which as I learned early on, doesn't mean No Flavor at all ). Oh, I'm having a very interesting time learning all the in's and out's of this, especially when my med's start kicking in . You should see the stack of notes, and book marks, I have been making on the different Nic bases being talked about in this thread. It's fun though, keeps my mind active. You're right though, I tend to favor a light tobacco Heavy TH juice, at least that's what I am aiming for, I've got part of it, I think, (ECX Nic), we'll see about the Arabic HS when it gets into my hands. I hope it's the last piece of my puzzle for me.

 

[aikanae1]

I hear that I do. That's why I started reading this thread from the first post on up to here, and even then, I still have to keep going back and re-read prior posts so that what I am reading makes sense and I don't misinterpret a point that someone is trying to make. Then, there's the taste thing , I'm glad I'm simple minded and just like Unflavored (which as I learned early on, doesn't mean No Flavor at all ). Oh, I'm having a very interesting time learning all the in's and out's of this, especially when my med's start kicking in . You should see the stack of notes, and book marks, I have been making on the different Nic bases being talked about in this thread. It's fun though, keeps my mind active. You're right though, I tend to favor a light tobacco Heavy TH juice, at least that's what I am aiming for, I've got part of it, I think, (ECX Nic), we'll see about the Arabic HS when it gets into my hands. I hope it's the last piece of my puzzle for me.

You've done your homework. Let us know how it works out since there's probably others that relate to what your looking for.

Something else to consider, as if there isn't enough already, is Inawere's "DNB" or dirty nic base. My understanding is it helps mixing tobacco flavors by having more nic taste, like the older style nic's used to have. There's an Inawere thread on ECF that might be able to describe it better. I just remember reading and thinking "ewww" since I'm in the no flavor or TH camp.

Takes all kinds. Your probably going to like what I don't. lol.

 

[52anddone]

I just remember reading and thinking "ewww" since I'm in the no flavor or TH camp.

HaHa . Yeah, I remember reading about "DNB" in the Hangsen's thread and thought it interesting, so I Book Marked it. Thanks for reminding me though, some times I have a memory retention of a 5 year old, no joking. I need to order some of that to mix with my Arabic HS to see what that is like. Right now I'm doing a 2.5% Arabic HS mix and 6mg/ml ECX 50/50 in my Cthulhu V2 at 14 Watts and 1.35 Ohms, just a-Tootling along here, Not too bad I tell ya, Not too bad at all. I'm not to sure just where to post this stuff anymore, now that I just started mixing "Other Than" Unflavored. I've had about 4 hits of the Arabic HS/ECX mix so will wait for a while to report back further opinions. Thanks for the advise aikanae1, will definitely take it to heart .

Edit: The Arabic bottle cap is Ink Jet printed 11-20-15 for the "Production Date" I assume, so I just mixed it up and am vaping.

Edit: I just went up to 3% on the Arabic HS in my mix, Very Good !! Thanks Jeremy, I used you're mix % as my guide.

 

[JeremyR]

Cool 52, post in the hangsen thread for hangsen. The date would have to be expire cause I don't think it was made yesterday. Also it will get better as it steeps.

 

[Dixie1954]

@aikanae1 - I have never experienced "throat hit" and I think it is because I do light draws - like when I smoke? I have asked and asked what it is lol and do not get it. I also do not do lung hits at all. The thing you need to consider when I talk about taste is that I can use 5% of a ready made juice for flavoring - hopefully that will let you know where I am coming from - I doubt very much that most people would truly get any baccy taste from VT TH nic.