Nicotine content findings of popular fasttech china juices. Done with titration.

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electrogeek13

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Hello i wanted to start a thread based on the nicotine content findings of ejuice from popular vendors. I started vaping over a month ago and have been cheaping out on juice until i get enough extra cash to get the proper DIY equipment. I am relatively new to vaping but not new to chemistry. I had a feeling some of these juices did not have the advertized nic content by vaping them, so i decided to test them.

I am going to be posting the results in plain English for all of the newcomers so not to confuse anyone. I have done the tests with 2ml samples and very accurate measuring tools eg. 1mlx.01ml luer slips instead of massive 3ml ones popularly used. I will post the results rounded to the nearest mg eg. 8.725mg=9mg 8.472mg=8mg.

Genuine hangsen RY4 18mg (the orange cap bottle) Titrated out at 20mg
Genuine hangsen Red USA Mix 18mg (the orange cap bottle) Titrated out at 21mg
Hangsen Juicy Peach 16mg (the green cap bottle) Titrated out at a sad 9mg
Hangsen apple 16mg (green cap bottle) Titrated out at 22mg
Liqua turkish tobacco blend 24mg Titrated out at 32mg
Hangsen mint 16mg (green top bottle) Titrated out at 22mg

I wanted to take a second to comment on the home testing method widely marketed here. I first want to say that this is a great little kit and am in no way bashing the vendor of it. The white cup/syringe method is an excellent idea for this type of testing in the home environment.

However as far as the users go i want to make a few points that may make things easier for you.

1. Measurements Measurements Measurements, the accuracy of this test is completely dependent upon your ability to accurately measure the materials you are using. Make sure you fully understand what measuring in ml/mg is and are properly using and reading the syringes.

2. The reaction process, a common mistake people make is "looking for yellow" the way this works is just that, a solution turns yellow. This yellow however is made by the dissipation of the blue and it will be much easier on your eyes if you look for blue to disappear instead of yellow to appear. If using the syringe method you will notice every time you put a couple drops on 12N in it will turn in it's place a bit before you swirl it, when you get to the point that this does not occur and all the blue is invisible the test is done. I like to get to this point where i think the testing is done, write down the number or ml's and then add a couple more.1ml increments just to make sure the reaction is fully complete before i write it off.

Thanks, any advice or constructive criticism is welcomed :)

Also if you have suspect juice and are interested in having me test it out for you let me know. I know i do not have much rep here yet so i am more than willing to try to build some.
 

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Wow! I'm impressed. You seem to be taking a goodly amount of time and effort trying to be as accurate as possible. This bodes very well for your future DIY efforts.

Thank you very much. I have some DIY plans in the future. Mainly because i refuse to pay more for something i can produce myself. I may eventually try to vend some of them but i am going to have to go through a tedious BETA phase. I will probably be sending out many samples and asking for forum reviews and keep tweaking until i get what the people want.

Eventually when this plan comes into action i'll be happy to post pics of some of my equipment and mixing methods for everyone to see the "bat cave".
 

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I tested 2ml of the 36mg/ml unflavored base from mtbakervapor last night. It came out at 38.9 mg/ml.

in my opinion accounting for human error that's a great number for them. I wouldn't hesitate to buy more. Personally i'd love getting extra nic than what i paid for :2cool:, my fear is for those who do not know how to test their liquids being harmed as a result.
 

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So where does one obtain a titration kit? I'd like to verify the nicotine content of the stuff I use.
I recently bought a kit to verify the ethanol content in the gasoline I buy. While that's not actually titration It's still kinda fun to check what's going on with stuff. ;)

Edit: Decided to check ebay and used search words: "nicotine test"
 
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So where does one obtain a titration kit? I'd like to verify the nicotine content of the stuff I use.
I recently bought a kit to verify the ethanol content in the gasoline I buy. While that's not actually titration It's still kinda fun to check what's going on with stuff. ;)

Edit: Decided to check ebay and used search words: "nicotine test"

If anyone is looking for an actual titration formula and some basic testing equipment you can find them here,

formula: http://www.vape-break.com/2011/08/determination-of-nicotine-in-e-liquid-by-titration/

ebay lab stuffs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAP...6224&item=280947726224&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

as far as the syringe/cup method, which i highly recommend for the not so chemically advanced people,

yes you can get the test kit on ebay, you can also get one from wizard labs here
Nicotine Test Kit

and you can get one from here,
http://www.eliquidtest.com/Instructions.aspx

wizard labs seems to be out of stock, i ordered mine form the second link. It came packaged very well exactly as i expected and arrived FAST! I highly recommend those guys. Also gives online instructions and a video of the test being performed. I find the price isn't bad either for what you get. buying luer slips with hypos, a white cup, 12N and blue separately will not yield much benefit unless you plan to run ALOT of tests. Although if you are testing high nic content juice you will use quite a bit of 12N. You can get 12N sulfuric at pool supply stores too. It is used to test swimming pool water. The bottle of blue they provide will yield MANY tests for you.

While this test kit does not look like a bunch of fancy lab equipment it is actually an excellent method for at home, and if you perform it right your accuracy is almost guaranteed. I use this as home and am satisfied.
 
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Oh... thats not the news I was hoping to hear. I've got about 15 flavors in the mail from them already. Oh well, cheap enough and I guess I can always mix with them if its too strong or weak.
Thanks for doing the test! Thats awesome. Reminding me of Breaking Bad.

It's really funny you say that haha. Breaking bad is one of my all time favorite shows! There was a time in my life where i was not by any means walking the path of good will and spirituality, therefore i tend to have a lot in common with that show lol. That chapter in my life ended years ago though, and since then i have completely changed my ways. I now work at a 12 step recovery center and am going to college for drug/alcohol counseling/coaching.

You would bu surprised what you can achieve with a simple change in perspective on life. :D
 

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Wow. This is eye opening....and a bit concerning. The difference between what is stated and what is actually added is quite a bit on some of these samples.

Thank you

your welcome. personally i was the most angry that the one was only 9mg haha. I like getting more nic than i payed for!
 

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If the nic is off that much on the Hangsen samples, perhaps flavoring is, too. That would sure explain why some flavors with rave reviews here taste like @#$# to me!

I would not doubt this in the least bit. Most retailers also just buy hangsen flavorings and mix their own too. It is labeled as hangsen because it is legit hangsen flavoring.
 
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