Nicotine Extraction Experiment

[Wildsky]

I just tried my water soaked tobacco liquid, 50/50 with VG - not bad at all. I can't tell how much nicotine is in it obviously, but heck in an emergency - it would do the trick!

I left the tobacco (Premium light) in the water for 24 hours, then strained it through a coffee filter...

My next challenge is to grow that tobacco myself!

 

[Laredo7mm]

Growing tobacco is not too difficult. I did it one year and I think I still have 75 pounds of it up in the "back room." I was amazed at how fast they grew, even here in the short summers of MI.

Let us know how it goes.

 

[Wildsky]

Growing tobacco is not too difficult. I did it one year and I think I still have 75 pounds of it up in the "back room." I was amazed at how fast they grew, even here in the short summers of MI.

Let us know how it goes.

Thats good to hear. I still want to check if its toxic to any of my animals, I don't think so but I don't want to find 17 dead chickes or ducks or ......
My growing season in Zone 4, is super short! Hell I might have to rig a set up in the basement!

 

[kinabaloo]

i would say soak in part water, part PG/VG (might get a bit more flavour out). You could use a little lemon juice or vinegar to boost the acidity a bit. Although you are getting other chemicals from the snus, you wont be burning them. You might get gums and such that will lead to greater deposits, but they could be cleaned out.

 

[luvmyvapor]

I have a box of 21mg patches. When I tried one a month ago, it made me feel sick so they are just sitting in the cupboard. Anyone ever try to extract from a patch? I'm assuming the adhesive would be difficult filter out even if dissolved.

 

[taukimada]

I have a box of 21mg patches. When I tried one a month ago, it made me feel sick so they are just sitting in the cupboard. Anyone ever try to extract from a patch? I'm assuming the adhesive would be difficult filter out even if dissolved.

there is a thread around here for using the patch to extract nicotine.. lemme find it real quick....

found it..

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...iquid-nicotine-extract-method.html#post120936

 

[taukimada]

I just tried my water soaked tobacco liquid, 50/50 with VG - not bad at all. I can't tell how much nicotine is in it obviously, but heck in an emergency - it would do the trick!

I left the tobacco (Premium light) in the water for 24 hours, then strained it through a coffee filter...

My next challenge is to grow that tobacco myself!

i tried some diy liquid... been vaping it off and on for about 2 days now..

i used some RYO tobacco and soaked it for 24+ hours in a pill bottle filled with 80 proof vodka... taste is... MEH... not good.. not bad.. throat hit was pretty good.. especially "superheated" using a magnum.. so far no ill effects i haven't suffered from standard liquid

like wild said... there's no way to even contemplate how much nic i'm getting.. but if i had to hazard a guess.. i'd say it's high... maybe even higher than 36mg liquid

 

[Wildsky]

i tried some diy liquid... been vaping it off and on for about 2 days now..

i used some RYO tobacco and soaked it for 24+ hours in a pill bottle filled with 80 proof vodka... taste is... MEH... not good.. not bad.. throat hit was pretty good.. especially "superheated" using a magnum.. so far no ill effects i haven't suffered from standard liquid

like wild said... there's no way to even contemplate how much nic i'm getting.. but if i had to hazard a guess.. i'd say it's high... maybe even higher than 36mg liquid

LOL - are you getting drunk too? LOL

Perhaps we can guestimate the nic content based on the tobacco and how much we use - don't ask me though..... my brain is out of order today (and probably tomorrow as well)

 

[taukimada]

LOL - are you getting drunk too? LOL

Perhaps we can guestimate the nic content based on the tobacco and how much we use - don't ask me though..... my brain is out of order today (and probably tomorrow as well)

you sure you used water?... ansolutely positive it wasn't moonshine?

 

[Wildsky]

LOL - no dear, I used water - no way I'm wasting my booze on an experiment! LOL

 

[b00stzx3]

Can yall feel the strength of the liquid? I've gotten pretty good at knowing how it feels to hit my 36mg and my 18mg. As long as I don't need a ciggy afterwards,I'll soak a whole bunch of juice.

 

[shakey ceasefire]

i tried some diy liquid... been vaping it off and on for about 2 days now..

i used some RYO tobacco and soaked it for 24+ hours in a pill bottle filled with 80 proof vodka... taste is... MEH... not good.. not bad.. throat hit was pretty good.. especially "superheated" using a magnum.. so far no ill effects i haven't suffered from standard liquid

like wild said... there's no way to even contemplate how much nic i'm getting.. but if i had to hazard a guess.. i'd say it's high... maybe even higher than 36mg liquid

Wow, so the vodka extracts more than water you think, or is it the quality of the tobacco? So when you strain it, you have a tobacco/vodka infusion. What ratio of infusion to PG/VG did you use?

Thanks!

 

[Nick O'Teen]

FWIW there's a very cheap source of tobacco in the UK (search for "Bee tobacco" on that page to find the entry near the bottom of the page.)
It's duty free because it's "DEFINITELY NOT FOR HUMANS!" (it's for smoking beehives - they've only put that notice in since I wandered into one of their branches and told them what a tasty smoke it was ) but from experience I can say it smokes better if you cure it more (straight up it's awfully tarry!)

At less than £2/lb it's well worth a try, if only for cheaply working out a methodology for large-scale nicotine extraction.

Of course, ALL THE USUAL DISCLAIMERS APPLY! Don't mess with stuff you're not confident you understand, don't blame me if you grow another head/whatever, etc, etc. But it has been approved for combusting in a smoker, and puffing over livestock (bees), and human foodstuffs (ie: honeycomb)

 

[taukimada]

Wow, so the vodka extracts more than water you think, or is it the quality of the tobacco? So when you strain it, you have a tobacco/vodka infusion. What ratio of infusion to PG/VG did you use?

Thanks!

after the soak i used a coffee filter to strain it... mixing was 50/50 between my soak and VG... tha vodka gave it a good throat hit...

far as the feeling the nic... i've been using a magnum mod to vape it... after a couple LONG hits.. it actually does seem to give me a tight feeling at the bridge of the nose and a bit of a tinge headache in the temples...

id call that a nic hit

 

[taukimada]

by the way...

upon thinking about it.. i MUST advise that if you decide to try the extraction you do so at your risk...

i wouldn't advise trying it..i'm just an idiot who didn't care if it killed me...

it's the only juice i own that i WILL NOT trust my kids to not touch.. it's been put out of reach

 

[Nick O'Teen]

after the soak i used a coffee filter to strain it... mixing was 50/50 between my soak and VG...

Just to go back one step in the process, what sort of ratio of tobacco to vodka did you use? just a pinch? half the pill-bottle full? Pill-bottle loosely packed to the brim like a cart?

I'm going to get some VG and have a go at this - might be able to use up my leftover pipe tobacco after all (I'm an idiot too, and someone has to try it after all - potential poisoning is entirely my own responsibility )

I think it will be sensible to try making a small amount first, with just 1-2 pipefuls of tobacco (that can't result in an overdose - I have a very high tolerance!)

 

[taukimada]

Just to go back one step in the process, what sort of ratio of tobacco to vodka did you use? just a pinch? half the pill-bottle full? Pill-bottle loosely packed to the brim like a cart?

I'm going to get some VG and have a go at this - might be able to use up my leftover pipe tobacco after all (I'm an idiot too, and someone has to try it after all - potential poisoning is entirely my own responsibility )

I think it will be sensible to try making a small amount first, with just 1-2 pipefuls of tobacco (that can't result in an overdose - I have a very high tolerance!)

i took a prescription pill bottle i had laying around... litterally just tossed tobacco in to just below the top.. no packing.... then poured the vodka up to where it puddled above the tobacco.. put the lid on.. shook it up violently.. then set it for 24 hours

 

[Nick O'Teen]

excellent - I'll put some in to soak in the morning, and get some VG. Might try a second batch in isopropyl rather than ethanol - isopropyl alcohol can be easily salted off (with table salt + water,) and siphoned away - then I can distil the volatiles (including the water and nicotine,) to leave the salt and leafy crud behind. Should be a lot cleaner on the atomizers, as well as kinder on the lungs.

I guess you've already seen this thread ? In parts useful, entertaining and alarming (but mostly alarming!)
This stuff has to be weak enough to be FAR less hazardous (I've chawed bigger plugs than I'm planning to work with.)

 

[taukimada]

excellent - I'll put some in to soak in the morning, and get some VG. Might try a second batch in isopropyl rather than ethanol - isopropyl alcohol can be easily salted off (with table salt + water,) and siphoned away - then I can distil the volatiles (including the water and nicotine,) to leave the salt and leafy crud behind. Should be a lot cleaner on the atomizers, as well as kinder on the lungs.

I guess you've already seen this thread ? In parts useful, entertaining and alarming (but mostly alarming!)
This stuff has to be weak enough to be FAR less hazardous (I've chawed bigger plugs than I'm planning to work with.)

im not sure which thread... but i seem to recall reading that isopropyl would be a very bad choice.. don't remember the details... i do know that ethanol is the base for a;cohol as we drink it... also makesa good gas additive.. a few other fun things that will bore one to tears... but the point is.. in the long run.. ingestable when cut properly

 

[Nick O'Teen]

im not sure which thread... but i seem to recall reading that isopropyl would be a very bad choice.. don't remember the details... i do know that ethanol is the base for a;cohol as we drink it... also makesa good gas additive.. a few other fun things that will bore one to tears... but the point is.. in the long run.. ingestable when cut properly

Isopropyl alcohol is more toxic than ethanol, true (though only about twice as toxic according to the Wikipedia page,) so you don't want it left in the mix, I agree.
But (unlike ethanol,) it has the useful property of being very miscible with fresh water, but very immiscible with salt water. So if you add strong brine and stir it all up, the isopropyl alcohol will separate out and rise to the top to form an unmixed layer which can be poured away. Of course, you've now pickled your juice, so it needs distilling to recover the active ingredients.

That's my theory anyway - there's only one way to find out if it works

I'll probably try water and ethanol too, but I think distillation would be a good idea in all cases - even with fine filter paper, I imagine there would be substantial crud remaining to carbonize in the atomizer.