No vaping in Red Robin

[MitchellBeans]

Well it is their decision, but thats still alittle harsh.
We don't have a Red Robin anywhere near here, but their commericals are on 423,543 times a day. That alone makes me not want to go there lol

You are missing nothing. The place has average at best food for above average prices and is decorated like a seizure-inducing nightmare. Add to that service that ranks somewhere between Wal Mart on a Saturday afternoon and McDonalds during lunch hour, and you may see my point

 

[Kimmy]

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[thinblueline36]

I find it interesting that Red Robin has "vaping" in their vocabulary. I read in another post that there's an airline that prohibits vaping aboard their planes because it could cause discomfort for jonesing smokers. Personally I agree with this policy.

It's a matter of perception. The harm to Red Robin from vaping obviously isn't health-based, but it is service based. All you need is one person openly vaping in the restaurant and every server, hostess and manager has explain to every customer in the place the difference between smoking and vaping. That's a major time sink, and the majority of clientele probably won't accept the explanation. Then there's the possibility of smokers seeing a vaper openly enjoying their PV, thinking the place is smoker-friendly, and lighting up, driving clientele out of the restaurant, etc. I know from experience that a single cigarette can stink up an entire auditorium, never mind a much smaller restaurant.

Asking a family restaurant to overcome the instant negative perception of vaping is unfair, IMO. Most of us didn't know a darn thing about e-cigs until we "discovered" them. The general public, politicians, law enforcement, are either completely ignorant or labouring under misinformation.

I think we just have to be patient. This isn't about logic, it's about perception. If it were about logic, Red Robin would allow vaping, and 86 the gallons and gallons of hard liquor openly displayed behind the bar.

TBL36

 

[txtumbleweed]

I wouldn't have ask them unless they said something to me then I would tell them it is a personal vaporizer and I use it so I can breathe which is true.

 

[Elendil]

Moving to Ecigs in Public forum

 

[coralie]

Another issue that hasn't been brought up is vaping in front of other people's children, in a family establishment. I prefer not to vape in front of other people's children. It's just as easy for me to excuse myself to the bathroom to vape in peace rather than explain and defend if I really can't wait to vape.

 

[Elendil]

I never did understand the mentality of being upset that you cannot vape wherever you want...........When I smoked there were many times that I had to go without a cig for an extended period of time.(Restaurants, extended business meetings, church, etc) Sometime you have to do the same with an ecig. I don't get the "in your face" mentality at all.

 

[quovadis]

Stealth vape..
just order a hot cofee, pretend to take a few sips and blow the vapor out.
It just looks as if the cofee is piping hot.

Why would you want to sacrifice a 920 calorie burger for a few puffs of you ecig in the first place?

 

[Shortstuff116]

An establishment has the right to refuse you to use your own asthma inhaler??? That just doesn't make any sense at all. What if that patron then has a asthma attack on the premises because he or she was not allowed to use their inhaler?

Can someone provide me with a link to such a law?

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

I don't see this as a problem. I'll go outside and vape like i used to when i smoked. Not a big deal at all.

 

[reverendg]

I agree that this "in your face" attitude about vaping isn't going to help our cause, but instead turn vapers into the pariahs that we had become as smokers.

If a restaurant or other establishment that "we don't own" is informed enough to know what the word vaping even means doesn't want it on their premises, then who are we to demand that they make the rest of their client base uncomfortable just so we can get our fix.

Do we want vaping to be banned everywhere before it's even legalized?...let me rephrase that, while it is under scrutiny? The answer is no.

come on people this is a no brainer. We are trying to educate people about vaping. It is not a right if you are in someone elses place period. If you want to vape your brains out in a restaurant and not have anyone hassle you, then buy your own. That's what I did and you're all invited that is as soon as I fix the electrical, the plumbing etc. etc.

 

[tazzmann]

And I agree with most posters on here. I too can wait for a vape. I just wanted to educate them that it is NOT smoking. They didn't even want to listen. Which is fine. I don't have a problem with waiting until I get done with my meal and go outside. HOWEVER, I also have a right to choose whether to grace their establishment or not. Many vapers want to know what restaurant they can vape freely in and which one they can't. My original post was meant to inform that it is a no-no to vape at Red Robin. Don't take it any other way! geez people. Calm down! If trying to educate a company is going to get vaping banned, why bother trying altogether. Why not just close up the CASAA and tell the FDA to do what they want? Sometimes some of you people read WAY too much into things.

 

[Virtues]

I already boycotted Red Robin for other reasons. I used to work at one and trust me, you don't want to be eating there. If you could see in the kitchen or in the back you would throw up.

This is just another reason affirming to me that the owners of Red Robin are evil and, they deserve to go bankrupt from our decision to not eat there.

P.S. the whole "owners can refuse service for any reason at all." is total BS (at least it is in my state). If they want to discriminate for no reason at all they have to have a sign that says "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." and no one gives those places money because it is on par with racism.

 

[JollyRogers]

In Virginia, vaping does not apply to the no-smoking ban. I have been to Red Robin twice and am totally unimpressed. If this is a corporate stance, then it applies in Va also. I understand individual establishments having the right to refuse service. However, I also understand my rights. So based on their stance, I refuse to visit Red Robin... in my case I would much prefer Fredericksburg Pub or Bailey's as they allow vaping and the later actually has a smoking room.

 

[quakereject]

With some business cards being sent out, with info on the back stating, and I quote "This device does not contain tobacco and is not governed by anti-smoking laws. (as ruled by the FDA) They are legal to use in any public place." It maybe puts out a false sense of entitlement.

While it would be nice for vaping to be legal everywhere, I can also see where it would cause a problem with a smoker firing up a cig thinking other people were doing it, then a huge crapstorm ensues and this is how establishments ban vaping indoors. Plain and simple.

As far as RR not allowing you to vape, well it's pretty so not hard to stealth vape that they are totally not going to see it, you just can't draw all sorts of attention to yourself by billowing out vapor trails and making smokers jealous if that's what floats your boat.

I stealth vape in restaurants all the time, I had 12 hits off my Chuck in La Parilla Suiza last night and nobody said a word, and I got one strange look from a guy a few tables away... when I set my Chuck on the table.

IF I can't vape, I can't vape. If you're incapable of waiting an hour or two for a restaurant you like to give patronage to, well.. that's your choice. I'll still go to RR if and when I want to, which at the rate of the last 10 years, is once every 5 years.

 

[VapingRulz]

Vapers need to vote with their wallets - and make sure that businesses know they're doing so. As the numbers of vapers increase exponentially, which seems to be happening, the restaurants and bars that were harmed by the smoking ban will see a niche that it's profitable to exploit.

In other words, as long as the federal-state-local governments don't interfere with the process, I'm confident that we'll see businesses allowing vaping within a year or two. They need to be educated and more importantly, they need their customers to be educated about what e-cigs are - and what they are not.

 

[pdssoft]

I vape, and if I go into a restaurant to have a meal and the guy two tables down pulls out his 20 gigawatt mega jackhammer PV and starts blowing clouds of vapor around the restaurant, I and the other 100 patrons will complain to management. Watch how fast it gets banned.

The PV users are the ones who need to be educated.

 

[zoiDman]

I never did understand the mentality of being upset that you cannot vape wherever you want...........When I smoked there were many times that I had to go without a cig for an extended period of time.(Restaurants, extended business meetings, church, etc) Sometime you have to do the same with an ecig. I don't get the "in your face" mentality at all.

I realy buy into this kind of thinking.

I don't understand why people feel that they should be able to vape Anywhere and then get upset when they can't. If I ever get to the point where I can not go an Hour without a hit on an e-Cig, I'm going to quit and seek medical help.

To me, stealth vaping in a place where you Know that vaping is a childish thing to do. What does it possible accomplish except to demonstrate that you do not have enough controll to go without a hit off an e-Cig.

I will say this though, I think tazzman acted very responsiable in asking the manager if it was ok to vape BEFORE vaping. I also think that the choice to boycot a business that you don't like is the best approach.

Confrontation with a manager or grunt employee who is only following company policy is not going to get anywhere.

 

[wolflrv]

I had pretty much already written off Red Robin just because the food wasn't that great, prices were too high and the noise and acoustics of the place just drove me insane the one time I ate there. This just gives me one more reason to say no to Red Robin.

That being said, I live in a small town and I vape anywhere in town I want to..at Walmart, bank, in any store, restaurant, etc. I have stopped vaping at the gas pump..since somewhere I read that somehow, some way that my little atomizer could maybe set off a gas explosion...I get that...OK.

I do also frequent several larger cities in my area to shop..such as Florence, AL; Corinth, MS; Jackson, TN and Memphis, TN. I am a bit more discreet in regular retail stores..but if I do need a quick hit or two..I take them and put my PV away again. If I go to eat, I vape after dinner sitting at the table. I don't brandish it all over the place, but I don't hide under the table, go outside, or sit in the bathroom either. 95% of the time I'll get asked about it and have the opportunity to educate and inform folks on the miracle it's made in my life. The other 5% of the time..I get confused looks at best. I've yet to ever get tackled or asked to leave anywhere. Just FYI I eat at normal chain restaurants like Perkins, TGI Fridays, El Chicos, Ruby Tuesdays, Chili's..etc.

 

[Xanax]

It would probably piss me off to see another vaper create a scene because a business owner told them they couldn't vape there. I just don't vape in public businesses, ever. I haven't found myself itching to get reactions like a lot of ECFers seem to do. Me- I'd like to play it safe and let people form their own opinions about the vaping community by looking at me and seeing that I don't create problems over petty stuff like that. In most restaraunts the door is literally 20 feet away at most... If you want to vape... Use it!!

Just my opinion.