Non RBA atomizer suggestions

[six]

The hh357 - my favorite atty for flavor and longevity for dripping or on my top feeder. Even after many months, I still can't accurately blind-squonk the hh.357. With every other atty I've used on my REOs, I can feel when I'm drawing the right amount of juice in to the atty. I have been completely unable to master that with the hh.357. It doesn't give the same "feel" when pulling juice in. That always leads me to flooding it a little and therefore getting juice in my mouth. - I will mention that I experience no such difficulty visually sqonking the hh. It just isn't always a reasonable thing to do (for instance, while driving I'd much rather blind squonk).

The Ikenvape i06 - Second favorite atty for flavor and longevity. No problems blind squonking. - The QC issues Iken has had plus the availability problems in my preferred ohms have turned me off of the i06. If I could buy the 2.5 ohm i06 whenever I want to and if they all had the same draw and if all the ones labeled 2.5 ohms were actually 2.5 ohms, I might not ever use any other atty on my VVW. As it is, my grateful vaper sleeve hasn't been used in several months... but I'm patiently waiting for the day Iken says, "Got plenty of i06's and the QC stuff is all sorted out and I'm going to keep this stuff in stock for my customers." to put it back in service.

The Cisco Aero - I really like the aero attys. They provide very good flavor and excellent vapor production. their draw is a little on the light side but does tend to tighten just a little bit over time. As far as I can tell, they only come in 1.5 ohm. For my VV Devices, I like ~2.4-3.0 ohm attys... but there is an aero on my REO Mini right this moment. I usually use a Cisco 1.8 ohm 510 or a Cisco 1.8 ohm 306 on the mini. I usually prefer 1.8 ohms for a 14500 mod as a nice balance between battery life and vapor performance.. but the aero is a high quality atty that I almost always get at least a month of use out of.

Cisco 306 and Cisco 510 - I'm very fond of both. For my VVW, I almost always have a 2.5 ohm Cisco 306 on it and it always provides a very satisfying vape. The flavor can not be compared to the hh.357, but the flavor is nevertheless very good.

If you have better luck than I do figuring out how to blind squonk the hh.357, I'd say, "Stick With It!"

The shorty cartos were mentioned. I keep two of them in every glove box for the event I pop a coil. They've saved me on many occasions and I do like them well enough. I've been pulling back from filler cartos and have been almost exclusively been using attys. those super shorties are very good and have saved my nic-fit more than a few times. If nothing else, you should keep a couple in your glove box for the day you blow a coil and can't get back to your supplies for several hours. I think they'd be just fine for normal daily use... but I've personally developed in to an atty vaper and not so much a carto vaper any more.

I have nothing bad to say about joye 510's ... or for that matter, bauway 510's or smoketech 510's. I have a bridgeless bauway on my tripple-v that has been running for months. It works great and flavor is acceptable.

 

[Blix]

I'm not ready to get into RBA's at this point.

Wrong, you most certainly are! If you can tie your shoelaces you can make a wick and coil for a Reomizer, it's that easy.
Get one before Rob runs out.

 

[ltrainer]

If you do decide to try the 306s get a clear or semi clear drip tip for it. It makes squonking much easier when you can see the juice flow.

 

[beckyblue]

The hh357 - my favorite atty for flavor and longevity for dripping or on my top feeder. Even after many months, I still can't accurately blind-squonk the hh.357. With every other atty I've used on my REOs, I can feel when I'm drawing the right amount of juice in to the atty. I have been completely unable to master that with the hh.357. It doesn't give the same "feel" when pulling juice in. That always leads me to flooding it a little and therefore getting juice in my mouth. - I will mention that I experience no such difficulty visually sqonking the hh. It just isn't always a reasonable thing to do (for instance, while driving I'd much rather blind squonk).

The Ikenvape i06 - Second favorite atty for flavor and longevity. No problems blind squonking. - The QC issues Iken has had plus the availability problems in my preferred ohms have turned me off of the i06. If I could buy the 2.5 ohm i06 whenever I want to and if they all had the same draw and if all the ones labeled 2.5 ohms were actually 2.5 ohms, I might not ever use any other atty on my VVW. As it is, my grateful vaper sleeve hasn't been used in several months... but I'm patiently waiting for the day Iken says, "Got plenty of i06's and the QC stuff is all sorted out and I'm going to keep this stuff in stock for my customers." to put it back in service.

The Cisco Aero - I really like the aero attys. They provide very good flavor and excellent vapor production. their draw is a little on the light side but does tend to tighten just a little bit over time. As far as I can tell, they only come in 1.5 ohm. For my VV Devices, I like ~2.4-3.0 ohm attys... but there is an aero on my REO Mini right this moment. I usually use a Cisco 1.8 ohm 510 or a Cisco 1.8 ohm 306 on the mini. I usually prefer 1.8 ohms for a 14500 mod as a nice balance between battery life and vapor performance.. but the aero is a high quality atty that I almost always get at least a month of use out of.

Cisco 306 and Cisco 510 - I'm very fond of both. For my VVW, I almost always have a 2.5 ohm Cisco 306 on it and it always provides a very satisfying vape. The flavor can not be compared to the hh.357, but the flavor is nevertheless very good.

If you have better luck than I do figuring out how to blind squonk the hh.357, I'd say, "Stick With It!"

The shorty cartos were mentioned. I keep two of them in every glove box for the event I pop a coil. They've saved me on many occasions and I do like them well enough. I've been pulling back from filler cartos and have been almost exclusively been using attys. those super shorties are very good and have saved my nic-fit more than a few times. If nothing else, you should keep a couple in your glove box for the day you blow a coil and can't get back to your supplies for several hours. I think they'd be just fine for normal daily use... but I've personally developed in to an atty vaper and not so much a carto vaper any more.

I have nothing bad to say about joye 510's ... or for that matter, bauway 510's or smoketech 510's. I have a bridgeless bauway on my tripple-v that has been running for months. It works great and flavor is acceptable.

Wow! What a thorough and thoughtful review of the non-RBA atty options for our Reos. I've been at it a pretty good while, now, but I still learned from and thank you for this detailed post! Continue to be so bowled over by this little community!

 

[Keely]

The hh357 - my favorite atty for flavor and longevity for dripping or on my top feeder. Even after many months, I still can't accurately blind-squonk the hh.357. With every other atty I've used on my REOs, I can feel when I'm drawing the right amount of juice in to the atty. I have been completely unable to master that with the hh.357. It doesn't give the same "feel" when pulling juice in. That always leads me to flooding it a little and therefore getting juice in my mouth. - I will mention that I experience no such difficulty visually sqonking the hh. It just isn't always a reasonable thing to do (for instance, while driving I'd much rather blind squonk).

The Ikenvape i06 - Second favorite atty for flavor and longevity. No problems blind squonking. - The QC issues Iken has had plus the availability problems in my preferred ohms have turned me off of the i06. If I could buy the 2.5 ohm i06 whenever I want to and if they all had the same draw and if all the ones labeled 2.5 ohms were actually 2.5 ohms, I might not ever use any other atty on my VVW. As it is, my grateful vaper sleeve hasn't been used in several months... but I'm patiently waiting for the day Iken says, "Got plenty of i06's and the QC stuff is all sorted out and I'm going to keep this stuff in stock for my customers." to put it back in service.

The Cisco Aero - I really like the aero attys. They provide very good flavor and excellent vapor production. their draw is a little on the light side but does tend to tighten just a little bit over time. As far as I can tell, they only come in 1.5 ohm. For my VV Devices, I like ~2.4-3.0 ohm attys... but there is an aero on my REO Mini right this moment. I usually use a Cisco 1.8 ohm 510 or a Cisco 1.8 ohm 306 on the mini. I usually prefer 1.8 ohms for a 14500 mod as a nice balance between battery life and vapor performance.. but the aero is a high quality atty that I almost always get at least a month of use out of.

Cisco 306 and Cisco 510 - I'm very fond of both. For my VVW, I almost always have a 2.5 ohm Cisco 306 on it and it always provides a very satisfying vape. The flavor can not be compared to the hh.357, but the flavor is nevertheless very good.

If you have better luck than I do figuring out how to blind squonk the hh.357, I'd say, "Stick With It!"

The shorty cartos were mentioned. I keep two of them in every glove box for the event I pop a coil. They've saved me on many occasions and I do like them well enough. I've been pulling back from filler cartos and have been almost exclusively been using attys. those super shorties are very good and have saved my nic-fit more than a few times. If nothing else, you should keep a couple in your glove box for the day you blow a coil and can't get back to your supplies for several hours. I think they'd be just fine for normal daily use... but I've personally developed in to an atty vaper and not so much a carto vaper any more.

I have nothing bad to say about joye 510's ... or for that matter, bauway 510's or smoketech 510's. I have a bridgeless bauway on my tripple-v that has been running for months. It works great and flavor is acceptable.

I really can't thank you enough for this review. I'm at the point where I have to order in the next few minutes and your information finally pushed me over the edge on a few products to try.

Putting a carto or even extra atty in the car is a great idea. We don't drive much because of our location (the metro is often easier) but your suggestion still works. It also carries over to handbags. I usually load up supplies before leaving the house but I think I'm going to toss a couple of carts in my bag and forget about them now. Thanks.

On the 357, you now have me curious! Or rather you hit my challenge monster which has to at least give conquering it a try. Said monster gets me in the worst trouble at times. All that being said, not being able to blind squonk would be a big issue for me as well. That's half the reason I bought a Reo. I often only have one hand free and need to be able to vape without fiddling.

 

[Keely]

Wrong, you most certainly are! If you can tie your shoelaces you can make a wick and coil for a Reomizer, it's that easy.
Get one before Rob runs out.

Sigh. You should not encourage the spending of more money.

To be serious, I am considering it. I looked through the RBA visuals in this forum last night. I'm pretty sure I could do it fairly easily but my big hesitation remains the fiddling aspect. I don't know that I want to pick up another thing I have to tinker with. Remember, if I do so, I have to tinker for two. Also, I already have a fiddly habit in fountain pens. One can only have so many things to tinker with, you know?

Do you have a link for the Reomizers? I popped over to the main shopping site but am not seeing it.

If you do decide to try the 306s get a clear or semi clear drip tip for it. It makes squonking much easier when you can see the juice flow.

Thanks, I'll pick one up. I do plan to try at least one 306. I can't make an informed decision otherwise - ah, I can so justify most anything.

 

[Blix]

Sigh. You should not encourage the spending of more money.

To be serious, I am considering it. I looked through the RBA visuals in this forum last night. I'm pretty sure I could do it fairly easily but my big hesitation remains the fiddling aspect. I don't know that I want to pick up another thing I have to tinker with. Remember, if I do so, I have to tinker for two. Also, I already have a fiddly habit in fountain pens. One can only have so many things to tinker with, you know?

Do you have a link for the Reomizers? I popped over to the main shopping site but am not seeing it.

Thanks, I'll pick one up. I do plan to try at least one 306. I can't make an informed decision otherwise - ah, I can so justify most anything.

I sure make more of a mess filling fountain pens than making coils and wicks..

You have to PM Rob for the Reomizer here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/private.php?do=newpm&u=29299

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

The reomizers are no longer available through his website. Here is what Rob had to say on the matter.

I will no longer be selling the reomiser . The atomizer is not durable enough for the average vaper . Until I have time to build one a truck can run over I wont be selling any rbas

It is a shame the atomizer works as good as the best on the market . I cant take the verbal abuse anymore . I have got some nasty and I mean nasty emails from people about the atomizer . I never tried to fool anyone I made it very clear its a mass produced atomizer modified for our mods . For those who have them and are happy with them there welcome to pm me I would be happy to sell them one . I have a box of them sitting in the shop .

 

[Keely]

I sure make more of a mess filling fountain pens than making coils and wicks..

You have to PM Rob for the Reomizer here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/private.php?do=newpm&u=29299

Now see, somehow I don't quite believe you.

I filled one just last night while sitting on the couch with no problems. Okay, it could have gone horribly wrong if the bottle of black ink had spilled but hey, what's the worst that could happen...

Thanks for the link. I sent him a pm; it can only lead to trouble!

The reomizers are no longer available through his website. Here is what Rob had to say on the matter.

People really amaze me sometimes.

 

[six]

It also carries over to handbags. I usually load up supplies before leaving the house but I think I'm going to toss a couple of carts in my bag and forget about them now.

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While I have to admit that there have been many occasions during 23 years of marriage I have indeed ended up carrying a handbag... I try not to make a habit of it

My absolute favorite thing about my REOs is the fact I don't have to carry much by way of supplies. For a while there (before my first feeder), I was carrying around so much stuff that it was really feeling like a chore to be prepared to vape all day. ---> The Mini - I can fit a spare 14500 and a spare 3ml bottle of juice in a AA Battery box so that's all I really need for a ~10 hour work day. The VVW - I carry nothing else. It has enough juice and long enough battery life to get me through even the longest days. That is the best thing ever. I can grab one thing and that's it. - It's just those rare events when I have an atty failure that present any difficulty.

The shorty cartos are inexpensive, small, and work really well. I can't think of anything better to keep as a back up to whatever atty you prefer. -- I mentioned that I've moved away from filler cartos in general. I don't really have anything against them and in fact, I have a couple of hundred + cartos in my stock (mostly pre-bogegate boge and some single and dual coil smoke techs). I've just gotten spoiled by the superior flavor available from hybrid attys like the hh.357 and i06... and there is just something very satisfying about the vape from a good 306.

I'm going to mention that I think the shorty cartos are a better back-up than carrying an extra atty for a couple of reasons. The first is just how cheap they are. If they get lost, dropped, forgotten, stepped on, or anything else happens, it's just not as big of a loss compared to something bad happening to a ~$25 hh.357 or even a ~$9 i06. -- The other thing is that unless your atty of choice is a Cisco 510 or Cisco 306, you need to clean the primer out of any other atty before you can use it without gagging. Carrying something like a joye 510 as a spare means you've got to take the time to clean it before you can use it. You can't just spin it on, squonk, and vape.

And that's a great lead in to why I love Cisco 510s and 306s. No primer. (Mentionable: The hh and the aero both ship with some straight VG in them for primer and it should be cleaned out before use) - The Cisco 510 and Cisco 306 ship primerless. No need to clean before using. - I can't say that I think the Cisco 510 or 306 are altogether superior to their joye, bauway, or smoke tech counterparts as far as performance goes... but I don't have to clean the darn things before using them. That in and of itself is very valuable to me just as a time saver.

 

[jeapa]

I just bought my first Cisco 510 and I have been vaping on it all day. I am still relatively new to vaping ( about 3 months), but I am really liking the flavor and vapor I am getting with this atty. I have learned so much since I decided to buy a Reo, and my vaping experience has really reached a new level. This is the best group of people I have met since joining this forum.

I am thinking about jumping into RBAs also. Good luck and post up some photos of your first coil and wick when you get that reomiser!

 

[Keely]

While I have to admit that there have been many occasions during 23 years of marriage I have indeed ended up carrying a handbag... I try not to make a habit of it

The trick is to get the handbag to match your eyes if not your clothes.

Right now when we go out, a bag is absolutely necessary. The Vamo is an utter beast in size and then you have my indecisiveness. I have some 7+ tanks sitting beside me filled, to say nothing of the attys and dripping bottles. Deciding what I'm going to want to vape in advance is harder than deciding what atty to buy!

Luckily I work from home so size when carrying things isn't as much of an issue as it is for you and others. That said, I probably will buy a mini eventually just because of its size. Coat pockets aren't much of a carrying help in summer. I too have a lot of cartos in stock though. Luckily the other half still uses her tanks more than she does her atty. Reo or not, I hope it stays that way. We need to use up some cartos. Me, I use my tanks for convenience when I'm busy but rarely more than that anymore.

You make a valid point on extra carts versus atty's. I wouldn't care if I lost a cart or even 5. Losing at atty on the other hand would put me in a mood for days. I hadn't thought about the primer issue either.

I did pick up some cisco 510s and 306s today. Although they are cheaper than my 357s, if I lost one I'd still be in a mood. 10 bucks is lunch for pity's sake. I would have picked up another 357 too (because I like having extras about) but they are out of the options I wanted.

I just bought my first Cisco 510 and I have been vaping on it all day. I am still relatively new to vaping ( about 3 months), but I am really liking the flavor and vapor I am getting with this atty. I have learned so much since I decided to buy a Reo, and my vaping experience has really reached a new level. This is the best group of people I have met since joining this forum.

I am thinking about jumping into RBAs also. Good luck and post up some photos of your first coil and wick when you get that reomiser!

I have to agree on the people. I've gotten no work done today because of this forum. In fact, I was going to shut the laptop down when I went, well, I'll just do a quick check of the Reo forum... and now look, I'm talking instead of working.

Ah the reomizer. I did end up buying one because you know, I already have wicking material, coil, multimeters and the like on hand. And he might run out... Or at least that's the excuse I sold to myself. I am still not convinced I want to fiddle though!

 

[unsure]

Wrong, you most certainly are! If you can tie your shoelaces you can make a wick and coil for a Reomizer, it's that easy.
Get one before Rob runs out.

Not necessarily true. I can tie my shoes but I do have a problem trying to make a coil and installing one. Ah yes....good eyesight, steady hand, and to be young again.

 

[Keely]

Not necessarily true. I can tie my shoes but I do have a problem trying to make a coil and installing one. Ah yes....good eyesight, steady hand, and to be young again.

You have a point that is hard to argue.

I've seen some here recommend a magnifying glass stand thingiemabob. Another option I've not seen mentioned on these boards is a jeweler's loupe/magnifying headband. I find them far easier than the stands because you don't have to move the stand around or peer over a glass at just the right angle. You can find them at amazon with an array of options and different styles including attached lights. They're a godsend when working on fountain pen nibs.

 

[Blix]

Not necessarily true. I can tie my shoes but I do have a problem trying to make a coil and installing one. Ah yes....good eyesight, steady hand, and to be young again.

I wrap my coils around a small screwdriver so that's really easy, but I can see installing the coil can be harder if eyesight and hands are not playing along. I turned 40 in September and have noticed text on various items have started to shrink lately...

The magnifying loupe/headband thingy Keely suggests is a great idea!

 

[unsure]

You have a point that is hard to argue.

I've seen some here recommend a magnifying glass stand thingiemabob. Another option I've not seen mentioned on these boards is a jeweler's loupe/magnifying headband. I find them far easier than the stands because you don't have to move the stand around or peer over a glass at just the right angle. You can find them at amazon with an array of options and different styles including attached lights. They're a godsend when working on fountain pen nibs.

Funny you should mention the jeweler's loupe/magnifying headband. I looked into those and the nicer ones whould solve one problem for me but even tho my hands don't shake my arthritis makes performing the task difficult. For the heck of it I bought these Eye Glasses Loupe Lens 20x Magnifier Magnifying Jeweler Watch Repair LED Light | eBay....I know for that price Im not expecting much.

 

[Keely]

Funny you should mention the jeweler's loupe/magnifying headband. I looked into those and the nicer ones whould solve one problem for me but even tho my hands don't shake my arthritis makes performing the task difficult. For the heck of it I bought these Eye Glasses Loupe Lens 20x Magnifier Magnifying Jeweler Watch Repair LED Light | eBay....I know for that price Im not expecting much.

Although I don't have the arthritis problem yet, I do empathize. Many people in my family have it.

There is a thread around here (I think it's even in the Reo area) that has pictures of someone who modified clamps you buy at Home Depot. They then stand on their own and will hold a rod or toothpick or wick steady while you wind around it. It may be of no help at all but on the other hand it might be. Just a thought.

For 5 bucks for that headband, I probably would have tried it too. Nothing ventured, nothing gained and all that. My one word of warning is you may find 20x almost too powerful. I tend to grab for my 10x over my 20xs just because the 20 really is...wow.

 

[lostknitter]

I had a pair of glasses made at Sears with my prescription and 4X magnification that I use for knitting. They come in very handy for lots of things including RBAs. Sears had a sale $99 for 2 pair of single vision lenses. Some of the best money I ever spent.

 

[unsure]

Although I don't have the arthritis problem yet, I do empathize. Many people in my family have it.

There is a thread around here (I think it's even in the Reo area) that has pictures of someone who modified clamps you buy at Home Depot. They then stand on their own and will hold a rod or toothpick or wick steady while you wind around it. It may be of no help at all but on the other hand it might be. Just a thought.

For 5 bucks for that headband, I probably would have tried it too. Nothing ventured, nothing gained and all that. My one word of warning is you may find 20x almost too powerful. I tend to grab for my 10x over my 20xs just because the 20 really is...wow.

Exactly why I bought them. Tho I didn't think about the power of 20x Oh well I guess I'll find out. My only seeing problem is up close and use 3x reading glasses which didn't cut the mustard for trying to thread the wire thru the post. I gave away all my wire and wick material but kept 2 premade coils from Avid to test those Loupe lens.