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Non Smoker wanting to start vaping?
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Everything.
In case you havent noticed, you have to be over 18 to order juices or e-cig supplies online.
If I'm not mistaken, you have to be over 18 to post on this forum as well.
basically ^this^ is how I feel on your question
you are going to see responses from the zealots on both sides in here, mainly recognizable by them attacking each other with a constant demand for justifications on anything said on here from each otherbut most of us are down the situational middle on questions like this. You are an adult and can do what you want but asking a vapers group what they think shows you have your doubts about it, I am not sure what your doubts are but if they are health related no one in here can tell you how safe or unsafe vaping really is, no one knows what the long term effects of vaping are, for former smokers it is viewed as harm reduction period.
Zealot wouldnt be my first choice to describe so-called vapers who encourage this kind of nonsense.
Air is made up of:
Nitrogen -- N2 -- 78.084%
Oxygen -- O2 -- 20.9476%
Argon -- Ar -- 0.934%
Carbon Dioxide -- CO2 -- 0.0314%
Neon -- Ne -- 0.001818%
Methane -- CH4 -- 0.0002%
Helium -- He -- 0.000524%
Krypton -- Kr -- 0.000114%
Hydrogen -- H2 -- 0.00005%
Xenon -- Xe -- 0.0000087%
Ozone -- O3 -- 0.000007%
Common sense and logic should tell you thats its far better to breathe these chemicals, ones that we've specifically adapted to over the course of tens of thousands of years, than it is to breathe a mixture of anything else. ....including 0 mg e juice.
Vaping for most of us is about harm reduction. That same common sense and logic dictates that inhaling 4 chemicals is better for us than inhaling over 4k of them (with 69 known carcinogens)
So just to clarify (mostly for the ever-increasing lunatic fringe on these forums)
Air > e-juice
e-juice > cigarette smoke
What you do with that knowledge is up to you.
And I will caution you that there are idiots who will argue the opposite side of any viewpoint, on any internet forum there is, no matter how wrong or far from the actual truth they are, and often in direct contradiction to that forums stated purpose, just for the sake of argument.
Sadly, a couple have already chimed in here.
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I don't think you vaping is going to help her any at all. It's almost like you smoking because she smokes. If you want to support her, find a vapor shop with a tasting bar and let her try some different flavors. Do some research for her and find out if she has the hardware she needs to help keep her off cigs. If she likes candy or drink flavors get her some of the actual candy or drinks. Lots of ways to support her without joining her.
My 2 cents: Although your heart is in the right place, its just simply not a good reason to start vaping. Most of us who vape are former smokers, and used vaping as a means to quit smoking. Some of us are more successful than others. But my point is, I can't think of any good reason for starting to vape if you aren't already hooked on nicotine. In fact, this is exactly what makes APVs/Ecigs look bad to outsiders and get bad stories published by the media.. It's a point that is used non-stop by those who are opposed to ecigs in their fight against them. The fact that non-smokers are starting to vape.. and the same goes for teenagers who are starting to do it as well.. It makes it that much more difficult for ecigs to remain on shelves, let alone push forward in a positive way, or get positive feedback from the press. Of course all the mis-information about eliquid is partially to blame as well, BUT, teenagers (or people in general) picking up on vaping for no good reason certainly doesnt help either. Sorry if any of that came off harsh, I certainly don't intend for any of this to come off that way. Just speaking the truth thats all.
Whoa! Relax there guy.
My comments werent directed at you and Im sorry that you took them personally. I quoted your post to use as a jumping off post....nothing more.
If you go back and reread my comments you'll see that they are directed at the OP and at some of the absolutely asinine comments made on these forums in general of late.
My comments werent directed at you and Im sorry that you took them personally. I quoted your post to use as a jumping off post....nothing more.
If you go back and reread my comments you'll see that they are directed at the OP and at some of the absolutely asinine comments made on these forums in general of late.
To me, there is no "should start vaping" rationale that makes sense given what you are conveying. I think you could go to a vape shop, try 0 nic, and see if it is something you could see yourself enjoy doing. If yes, and if you think it honestly would be of help / support for the girlfriend, then consider whether or not to commit yourself to more regular use. I do think if you did enjoy it (like truly enjoy it) and are at zero, it would plausibly be a daily reminder for her to cut nic down. But as nic is so tame in terms of habits, she may not follow that path or may just quit cold turkey one day. And then there's the chance you'd be the only vaper if you actually enjoy it that much. Just some food for thought.
Op, you do not have to Vape to support her. You just have to be there for her and show your support.
If you have an interest in helping with the technical end you can learn everything you need to know whether you vape or not.
If your handy you can do the tinkering, if not then staying out of the way is the most helpful course to take.
If you have an interest in helping with the technical end you can learn everything you need to know whether you vape or not.
If your handy you can do the tinkering, if not then staying out of the way is the most helpful course to take.
We all( or most of us) do things that are risky or unhealthy for us, unless you're a health nut, we all know the long term affects of not eating healthy and yet obesity is on the rise and fast food industry is booming. Being overweight raises risk of high blood pressure heart disease and stroke. Why would people keep eating unhealthy. Just sayin.
In my humble opinion, people that never smoked cigs should NEVER EVER start vaping. The entire scene is comprised almost entirely of ex-smokers. The reason I do it is because Big Tobacco turned me into a nicotine junkie and vaping is a far, FAR safer to deal with my habit. I smoked a pack a day for about 25 years.
Just my two cents...... 
Just my two cents......
As the wife thats vaping to quit my husband joined me and it helped tremendously! BUT, he was a smoker too.... So to answer the question; research some equipment and get her a nice set up and any other shiny things for it that she prob wouldnt buy for herself and take her to some vape shops to help her pick out a few flavors to try. You can be totally imvolved and supportive w/o having to pick it up yourself
(My hubby got me an Ego One Mini and I love it! Just a suggestion, good luck!)
My .02 on it is go ahead. Enjoy it, and don't listen to the noisy negativists going on about unknown possible risks. It's not like you are starting to smoke at all, and tremendous efforts are being made to find anything at all wrong with vaping. So far they have turned up nothing, but they will never give up, and will just make stuff up if they have to. Do your homework on it if you like, research it yourself and make an informed decision, but by my lights you can quite safely ignore the buffoons telling you that you will be risking your life. Tune that noise out.
I feel if you want to try it, go for it! If you don't want to try it, supporting her quitting cigs can be done in other ways, as suggested by others. Gifts, learning to play with electronics, and just generally pointing out positive changes you notice, like her coughing less, or smelling better for instance.
There's potential harm in putting anything in your body, period. At least vaping seems less harmful than smoking.
There's potential harm in putting anything in your body, period. At least vaping seems less harmful than smoking.
Right On for wanting to Help your GF get off Smoking. It is Probably the Greatest Single thing a person can do to Improve their Health.
Not sure Exactly how much it will Help your GF if you start to use an e-Cigarette? But Only you can say because you know Her and the Situation.
What I think Would Help though is you tried to look for things that the Two of you could do Together that would Occupy Her Time.
Joining a Gym Together. Doing Walks Together. Going Bowling Together. Doing a Hobby Together. etc. I think this would have a Bigger Benefit. But Once Again, Only you can tell.
Wish your GF All the Best for me. And let Her know that She can make it if She Really Wants to Quit Smoking.
I will start by saying that I am on the bus of worried about the potential long term effects. We can argue either way with no real basis at this point.
Vape juice base substances are manufactured on a daily basis. What are the safe manufacturing practices? Meaning, VG/PG have been being inhaled during manufacturing processes since the beginning of their production, which has been much longer than vaping. Or have they? Are they only produced while wearing a mask? We all know the diacetyl story. There has had to be some kind of testing under OSHA or some other governing body in regards to inhalation during the manufacturing process. I will get around to researching this at some point but I am still just a beginner.
I started vaping only about a month ago prior to any research. I was clueless when I walked into the vape store. I had recently visited my asthma specialist, who I have treated with on and off for 36 years. My asthma had come raging back over the past year. At the visit, he commented that I should consider switching to a e-cig. He said that they are much easier on the lungs than smoking but also concluded with doing neither on would be best. He prescribed a maintenance inhaler that came with warnings all over it stating "may cause sudden death". Like h*** I was going to use something that had been proven to cause sudden death. However, I did decide to try the e-cig to quit smoking. Low and behold a month later and I have only had one minor asthma irritation and did not have to start the "sudden death" inhaler.
Not sure that is worth much to either side of the argument. I am not sure how long I will vape. I am really enjoying it right now, more so than I remember enjoying my cigs in a long time. I will keep a watchful eye on any developments for or against the safety of use. Until then I will be a skeptic sitting on the fence
Vape juice base substances are manufactured on a daily basis. What are the safe manufacturing practices? Meaning, VG/PG have been being inhaled during manufacturing processes since the beginning of their production, which has been much longer than vaping. Or have they? Are they only produced while wearing a mask? We all know the diacetyl story. There has had to be some kind of testing under OSHA or some other governing body in regards to inhalation during the manufacturing process. I will get around to researching this at some point but I am still just a beginner.
I started vaping only about a month ago prior to any research. I was clueless when I walked into the vape store. I had recently visited my asthma specialist, who I have treated with on and off for 36 years. My asthma had come raging back over the past year. At the visit, he commented that I should consider switching to a e-cig. He said that they are much easier on the lungs than smoking but also concluded with doing neither on would be best. He prescribed a maintenance inhaler that came with warnings all over it stating "may cause sudden death". Like h*** I was going to use something that had been proven to cause sudden death. However, I did decide to try the e-cig to quit smoking. Low and behold a month later and I have only had one minor asthma irritation and did not have to start the "sudden death" inhaler.
Not sure that is worth much to either side of the argument. I am not sure how long I will vape. I am really enjoying it right now, more so than I remember enjoying my cigs in a long time. I will keep a watchful eye on any developments for or against the safety of use. Until then I will be a skeptic sitting on the fence
I asked her what she thought.
She said it helped one of her friends stopped smoking, and it wouldn't hurt to try.
As an occasional smoker (pipe and cigar) I really wasn't after the nic but the flavor. My Wife decided to quit smoking and got into vaping, I joined her not necessarily for the support but for the enjoyment. The debate about good or bad is never going to be settled IMO and will go on forever. I am an adult and can reasonably make my own decisions. With all the various flavors and such I am looking forward to a long time trying to find the perfect one. Just over 2 months ago my wife was doing 3 packs a day and now she has stepped from 16mg to 12mg liquid. I am very proud of her for taking the step to improve her health. Enjoy the journey if you choose to take it.
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