Non-smoker

[raichu]

Never smoked, not even the electronic ones, but I've always been tempted to. The health risks kept me away, but now I'm considering trying out the 0mg e-cigs, just for something to keep me busy. I'm overweight-- not a lot, but enough that it bothers me-- and by far the biggest reason for that is boredom eating/drinking. So I figure this would be something to keep my hands, mouth, and taste buds occupied, without all the calories and fat and high-fructose corn syrup. So even though I don't have a nicotine addiction, I do have a mountain dew addiction that I'd like to get over. The idea is intriguing, and I also can't pretend I'm not extremely curious.

 

[plontonik]

You'll get a lot of people who will give you a negative response since you are not a smoker, but I say if it keeps you away from cigarettes then go for it. There are still tons of people just starting to smoke every day and I'd much rather they pick the lesser evil.

 

[Abe_Katz]

Never smoked, not even the electronic ones, but I've always been tempted to. The health risks kept me away, but now I'm considering trying out the 0mg e-cigs, just for something to keep me busy. I'm overweight-- not a lot, but enough that it bothers me-- and by far the biggest reason for that is boredom eating/drinking. So I figure this would be something to keep my hands, mouth, and taste buds occupied, without all the calories and fat and high-fructose corn syrup. So even though I don't have a nicotine addiction, I do have a mountain dew addiction that I'd like to get over. The idea is intriguing, and I also can't pretend I'm not extremely curious.

Hi Raichu, and welcome to the ECF.

I would say that a non-smoker should not take up vaping. I view vaping from the perspective of being a form of Tobacco Harm Reduction. If you are a non-smoker (and I also assume a non-tobacco user) then you have no harm that needs reduction.

However, vaping is generally considered (by those of us who smoked) to be far, far safer than smoking (there are no vaping related deaths reported so far, but smoking is a known killer), and inhalation (into the lungs) is not required even if you did use a nicotine juice (which by the way it is my opinion that you shouldn't use a nicotine containing juice--nicotine is addictive). So provided you are not inhaling the vapor into your lungs, I don't think there would be much, if anything, in the way of respiratory consequences. And what few consequences you may face from vaping (even if you choose to use a nicotine containing juice) would be outweighed, in my opinion, the problems that being over weight causes.

On the other hand, I would think that if your problem is boredom eating, your problem is not, not vaping, but rather boredom and that a better solution would be to take up a hobby or perhaps, preferably, a sport. If we are talking about a sport or other form of exercise you may be able to be better able to manage your weight without taking up vaping--and it will also deal with the boredom issue.

That said you are an adult and will do as you please. I am merely sharing my opinion.

 

[Hulamoon]

I say if you're over 18 and you think you're going to light up anyway, then go ahead and try vaping instead. Just one word of advice, get your kit online, don't go buying anything at those kiosks in the mall. Do you have a brick and mortar vape shop where you live? The good news is that there are several Mountain Dew flavors - some of which I understand even give a bubbles impression. There's a lot of us here, and we'll help you how we can. The other thing you need to know is that you don't need to inhale into the lungs, you may be sensitive to PG, and you must drink lots n lots of water. Where do you think you'll go with this at this point?

 

[Ash45]

Whatever your choice, just don't do nicotine.
Personally, I'd like to believe that we vape to eventually get off the hook.

 

[Hulamoon]

I agree Ash. Yes, we do, but I think sometimes we can tend to forget that there's also whole new generations who are right now thinking about taking up smoking, so this is by far a better alternative. I know I wish that such a choice had been available for me waaaay back then

 

[daventura]

Please don't tell him there's a Mountain Dew nicquid.

Aww damn...too late.

 

[Haktuspit]

Please don't tell him there's a Mountain Dew nicquid.

Aww damn...too late.

Cat's out of the bag, may as well link it

Mt. Dew E Juice Baker Vapor - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes

 

[Hulamoon]

Sorry about that, but heck, even vaping 0 mg nic mountain dew has still got to be better than drinking that sugar loaded chemical - let's see, 25 teaspoons sugar for 34 oz drink.... and 1 million per cent better than lighting up the ol' Marlboro's, no?

Please don't tell him there's a Mountain Dew nicquid.

Aww damn...too late.

 

[Abe_Katz]

Whatever your choice, just don't do nicotine.
Personally, I'd like to believe that we vape to eventually get off the hook.

I disagree Ash.

I have no desire what-so-ever to quit nicotine. It actually helps me manage my ADD and the other options are worse. I literally face a choice between a cocktail of powerful prescription stimulant drugs, all of which are highly addictive and easy to abuse, or espresso and a vape.

The health consequences attributed to tobacco by ANTZ is related to the act of smoking. It has to do with the act of inhaling smoke into one's lungs on purpose. The COPD, Emphysema, and Lung Cancer would be caused by tea or coffee if we smoked those instead of drinking them.

Now if someone choses to use vaping as a means to eventually end an addiction to nicotine, I'm fine with that. If someone choses to vape till they die (I'll probably have an ego in my hand the second I die), I'm fine with that too.

The problem with a nicotine addiction is not that one is addicted to nicotine (people addicted to caffeine function just fine), but rather how one chooses to ingest their nicotine. PVs, and Snus are the least harmful methods, and smoking is the most harmful method.

 

[meli.]

Hello raichu and welcome to ECF.

Not my place to make choices for you but I'll add my two cents to the bucket on the basis that you are Not a smoker and haven't considered smoking or vaping because of the risks involved.

If you believe vaping will solve your overeating issues you are seriously mistaken. Vaping isn't a dieting tool.
There are a quite a few overweight smokers/ vapers out there and vaping or smoking for that matter can't magically replace 'boredom eating'.
How is vaping going to encourage you to take more exercise?
How is vaping going to prevent you from drinking high calorie drinks or eating chocolate muffins?

You still need to keep hydrated, so you're going to drink more water? If you intend to change that then you're also prepared to change more within your current eating regime, eat healthier lower cal' foods, eat less Unhealthy foods. If you can make those small changes, why start vaping?

Your aim is to replace one bad habit with another habit, essentially all you'll land up with is two habits.

Most smokers that switch to vaping consider it better than smoking, but I really think it's a little irresponsible telling Non smokers who had no intention of smoking or vaping due to possible risks associated 'Hell yea, why not! Go ahead'.
Remember the good ol' days when the smoking lobby would say the same about cigarettes?

We still don't know the long term effects of vaping, we still don't know if all the Flavours we're vaping are good for us. Just because an ingredient is GRAS or approved for ingestion does not mean it is good for Inhalation on a long term basis. There is still a lot we don't know, what we Believe is a different matter.
Most vapers believe vaping a better Alternative to smoking. Please bear this in mind.
It's a big decision to make, don't make it lightly.

 

[fazriy83]

welcome to ECF!!!

 

[jfalbanese]

welcome. i would beg you to reconsider picking up an e cig. for lifetime smokers with no options they are a lifeline. in no way would i encourage you to try a new vice. this one leads to something even worse than weight issues. there of lots of things to do with your hands. being blind, and having to shave my palms every week, i can attest to that. as for the corn syrup stuff- it's an addiction just like smoking, and everything else. the same process applies, identify triggers, healthy activity replacement. and personal inventory. all the 12 step crap applies. and a good support system. could not have come this far without the fine people on here patiently reading, and responding to the chapters of my tobacco withdrawal manifesto. i intend to keep as active as i can on here for the days that can test a mans soul. i wish you luck. once you are ready to commit to a healthier lifestyle, and suffer the consequences of that choice, you will attain whatever goals you set for yourself.

 

[charmschool]

Most smokers that switch to vaping consider it better than smoking, but I really think it's a little irresponsible telling Non smokers who had no intention of smoking or vaping due to possible risks associated 'Hell yea, why not! Go ahead'.
Remember the good ol' days when the smoking lobby would say the same about cigarettes?

We still don't know the long term effects of vaping, we still don't know if all the Flavours we're vaping are good for us. Just because an ingredient is GRAS or approved for ingestion does not mean it is good for Inhalation on a long term basis. There is still a lot we don't know, what we Believe is a different matter.
Most vapers believe vaping a better Alternative to smoking. Please bear this in mind.
It's a big decision to make, don't make it lightly.

1000+ on this! If you're bound and determined, stay on the board & buy from reputable vendors, but make your decision carefully. We former smokers don't have a lot to lose, since we were already doing serious harm to our bodies. We're gambling that vaping is better than smoking (and so far research appears to support that), but we don't know for sure. Are you ready to accept ? risk versus your current zero risk?

 

[Fahad Malallah]

i say you will start with 0 NIC then it will pull your legs and you will say what the hell let me try 6 NIC. if i were you i will avoid it

 

[indianajames]

I'm entirely Libertarian and don't believe in trying to make choices for others, but as the OP seemed to be one looking for advice, I'll put in my two cents, which echoes many previous posts here.

Would I advise my kids to start vaping? I would, and only because they all smoke. I wouldn't advise it for any non-smoker. As mentioned already by others, we just don't know the long-term risks, if any, that may be involved. Vaping is a reduced harm alternative to smoking. I absolutely loved smoking, and I'm now the same way about vaping. Had I never smoked, or already successfully quit by another means, I'd never have considered vaping at all.

If weight is your issue in this, I can jump on that one, too, as I used to be overweight with the added "bonuses" of hypertension, high cholesterol, and borderline diabetes. I lost over 60 lbs. by eating a healthy diet, lots of exercise, and tons of determination. There is no healthy "quick fix" for weight loss. You probably didn't gain weight overnight, and it won't go away overnight, either. One has to make lifestyle changes for the positive.

Anything worth obtaining is worth working hard for. Ultimately, the choices are yours and yours only.

 

[Toastedone]

I personally think if you are a non smoker just stay that way, If I had never smoked I certainly wouldn't start vaping. Just my opinion though.

 

[T0rtitude]

I'm acquainted with people who vape 0 nic and have never smoked once in their lives. Vaping has not tempted them to try nicotine or take up smoking. If the thought is already in a person's head to try something, they're going to do it regardless of what others think. I won't encourage anyone to take up vaping, but I won't discourage them either.

It's true we don't know what the long term effects are, but we know what the long term effects of plenty of other seemingly harmless habits are. For instance, drinking soda will lead to obesity and possibly type 2 diabetes. Once you have the disease, a well controlled diet, exercise, and medication is no guarantee that the disease won't progress to the point of needing insulin. And won't necessarily protect against organ failure or neuropathy. This is a known fact.

I tend to view vaping as I do things of that nature. Inhaling some nic free vapor isn't harmless and it's not something that should be encouraged, but it's probably less harmful than being overweight or drinking soda. So again, I won't encourage or discourage anyone. I think people need to do what they feel is best for their own health.

 

[Beel Weelson]

I half agree with the perspective that you shouldnt do it unless your a smoker who doesnt want to smoke cigs anymore.. but if you think it could help you maybe give it a shot and if it doesnt help then stop

 

[ilovehugehits]

I was a cigar smoker for many years.
Have been vaping for a year now.
Haven't touched a cigar since.
I know some non smokers who like to vape.
Spinfuel even has one on their review staff.
I think the OP makes a valid point.
The act of vaping will help him cut down on eating.
His mouth will be occupied.
Model making or fantasy football won't help him with that.
There are a lot of great flavor choices.
Something like a Volt should fit the bill.