Noob Ohms Question

[RyanSmith654]

Hi all,

First day on the forum, after some fantastic answers to my first question posted earlier today, I now have another for this friendly bunch

I have been reading about coils and their ohms and have been led to believe that 2.5 ohms is the middle of the road, or thereabouts, with lower ohms used, to create more vapor, or clouds.

I am not really looking for clouds, more a reliable vape, similar to smoking, and have been looking at different regulated box mods, as I would like to control the temperature also. I am however a bit confused when looking at these mods, as all seem to come with 0.5 or similar coils. I thought 2.5 was average? Or is it just that these mods are mainly for clouds? I could only see Kangertech ones that came with anything over 2. Can I use something like 0.5 for normal vaping (not just trying to cloud)

All comments/advice etc, greatly appreciated.

Bests,
Ryan

 

[Eskie]

Anything over 1 ohm should be fine for mtl. Even some below. Duplicating smoking, mtl, is accomplished two ways. First, low airflow. Second, low power. They sort of go hand in hand, as the lower resistance, higher power coils generally go with more airflow. The third factor is the juice you vape. Higher VG juice typically produces more of a cloud. High PG less so, but in combination with a high nic level, increased throat hit. As a smoker, the throat hit actually helps mimic cigarettes a bit more.

Finding anything above 2 ohm with current gear is pretty tough. For example, even the popular Nautilus/Nauti mini use 1.8 or 1.6 ohm coils. The Nauti X works well with the 1.5 ohm coil. It is possible to use a 0.5 ohm coil for mtl if the tank allows you to really restrict the airflow.

 

[RyanSmith654]

Another googled abbreviation, should have guessed what MTL meant, I'm certainly learning!

Okay, so I don't necessarily need to find something so high as 2.5 then, but high enough >1 ish. Most do seem to come with a 1.5 as well as a lower one, so I think I'll be okay.

Thank you for your advice!

 

[RyanSmith654]

Anything over 1 ohm should be fine for mtl. Even some below. Duplicating smoking, mtl, is accomplished two ways. First, low airflow. Second, low power. They sort of go hand in hand, as the lower resistance, higher power coils generally go with more airflow. The third factor is the juice you vape. Higher VG juice typically produces more of a cloud. High PG less so, but in combination with a high nic level, increased throat hit. As a smoker, the throat hit actually helps mimic cigarettes a bit more.

Finding anything above 2 ohm with current gear is pretty tough. For example, even the popular Nautilus/Nauti mini use 1.8 or 1.6 ohm coils. The Nauti X works well with the 1.5 ohm coil. It is possible to use a 0.5 ohm coil for mtl if the tank allows you to really restrict the airflow.

Just noticed its you again Eskie, thanks again for your help

 

[DingerCPA]

Welcome @RyanSmith654

Temperature Control is achieved with mods capable of those settings. Nickel, Titanium, and sometimes Stainless Steel wire can be used in TC mode. Depends on the mod. I have a few which are Ni only, a couple others which can do Ni and Ti, and a few others which can also do SS in TC mode.

Keep in mind, those TC coils will typically be much lower in resistance (Ni: 0.1-0.4 ohms; Ti: 0.1-0.8 ohms; SS: since it can be used in both VW and TC modes, it's a little less restrictive.) You'll set watts to "push down the accelerator" and Temperature to "put a governor on it".

A few years ago, 2.5 ohms was more "middle of the road" because devices (and batteries) couldn't yet handle the current draw. These days, I'd say 1.2 ohms is more "middle of the road".

I currently have a 0.2 ohm Ni coil on a device. Watts set around 28; Temperature around 500F. I close the airflow on the topper, and I have a decent MTL vape. I open the airflow, and I can do more DL. Versatility

 

[mongo74]

Hi, and welcome to the forums! I see the local gurus have already taken good care of you, and I just wanted to add: if you're looking for a great mouth-to-lung all in one combo, which you can easily change up to a direct to lung (with included 1ohm and .5ohm coils) the Hohm Skillet is a nifty little device, which basically does all the inputting for you...you just press the fire button and vape.

Hohm Skillet | Hohm Tech, Incorporated - Hohm Tech, Incorporated

 

[RyanSmith654]

Thank you, Vaping Mistress lol had to read that through twice, but I am with you. Things seem to have moved a bit and a lot of the info pages seem to have been written around 2013. Versatility, I like it

With something down at say 1 ohms, what is my cloud going to be like, in comparison to the cheap pen I have at the moment? I presume it will be much more, but I'll be able to tweak that with the wattage, or the temperate? (Presumably one or the other dependent on which mode is being used at the time TC/VW)

Thank you for your help!

 

[sofarsogood]

Hi all,

First day on the forum, after some fantastic answers to my first question posted earlier today, I now have another for this friendly bunch

I have been reading about coils and their ohms and have been led to believe that 2.5 ohms is the middle of the road, or thereabouts, with lower ohms used, to create more vapor, or clouds.

I am not really looking for clouds, more a reliable vape, similar to smoking, and have been looking at different regulated box mods, as I would like to control the temperature also. I am however a bit confused when looking at these mods, as all seem to come with 0.5 or similar coils. I thought 2.5 was average? Or is it just that these mods are mainly for clouds? I could only see Kangertech ones that came with anything over 2. Can I use something like 0.5 for normal vaping (not just trying to cloud)

All comments/advice etc, greatly appreciated.

Bests,
Ryan

There are vapers who want big clouds so they put more power through a larger mass of wire to heat more liquid into vapor faster. One consequence of more wire is lower resistance because power flows more efficiently through a bigger wire. But we don't want efficiency, we want heat. If you are like me you want a moderate amount of visible vaper. That means you can get by with less wire and less power to heat it. I like stainless steel coils built to 1.4 ohms of resitance then they increase to may be 1.6 ohms when heated. To make that higher reistance coil do its best needs half or less power compared to multiple coil builds. In power mode I'm fine at 20 watts. In temp control mode I get a good vape at 400 degrees and need reletively little power to get to that temperature because there isn't so much wire to heat up and because more of the power is being turned into heat instead of flowing "efficiently" through the wire.

 

[BrotherBob]

Hi all,
First day on the forum, after some fantastic answers to my first question posted earlier today, I now have another for this friendly bunch
I have been reading about coils and their ohms and have been led to believe that 2.5 ohms is the middle of the road, or thereabouts, with lower ohms used, to create more vapor, or clouds.
I am not really looking for clouds, more a reliable vape, similar to smoking, and have been looking at different regulated box mods, as I would like to control the temperature also. I am however a bit confused when looking at these mods, as all seem to come with 0.5 or similar coils. I thought 2.5 was average? Or is it just that these mods are mainly for clouds? I could only see Kangertech ones that came with anything over 2. Can I use something like 0.5 for normal vaping (not just trying to cloud)
All comments/advice etc, greatly appreciated.
Bests,
Ryan

Could study these relationships:
In General higher ohm coils/lower wattage (generally MTL) vaping will:
Heat the coil slower, which may produce “less” vapor
Provide A “cooler” tasting vape, can produce more flavor
May use less E-Juice (<$ less money)
Prolong battery life (<$)
Prolong coil life (<$)
Prolong wick life (<$)
May result in less PV maintenance/Issues
Less irritation to non vapers
Aids stealth vaping
May be better in the long run healthwise (<$)