Noob - refill or replace?

[ClockWorK]

I'm a total newbie to e-cigs. I quit regular cigs over a year ago, and now smoke a few cloves each day instead of 15 cigarettes.

I found this site because of an ad for Blu. I've read these forums for a week, I'm not buying a Blu.

I currently just smoke in my car on my way to work, home, or lunch. Or occasionally with a cup of coffee.

I think I'm ready to make the jump to electronic cigarettes. I'm leaning toward a 510 after lurking in these forums for a week. I want good vapor and throat hit. However, I don't think I want/need any nicotine at all. (we'll see). And I'm kind of concerned about the 510 being kind of large, but it's regarded so well on these forums that I'm willing to get past that. And the manual battery sounds like a good idea.

And also, I don't want to spend too much time maintaining the equipment required for e-smoking. I don't mind replacing batteries/atomizers, but filling tubes with syringes full of flavor seems like a new complication to my life. But I can't seem to find many companies with pre-filled cartridges for the 510.

Am I better off going with a different unit that may be more geared toward just replacing cartridges, or should I just get the 510 and assume that I won't need to mess with it too often?

Any opinions are welcome. Sorry if this has been asked a zillion times. I'm just ready to make the jump, and would prefer to not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase.

 

[willsgirlie]

definitely refill. you get the best experience possible by refilling, you don't have to use a syringe, it's super easy, takes a matter of seconds. It's cheaper, and you get more vapor and throat hit because you can keep topping them off, once a cart gets mostly empty, it might as well be all the way empty, because the quality of vapor and throat hit sucks. Good luck! I am pretty new at this but refilling is the best way to go IMO... maybe get some carts for when you are out and about and don't have time to refill, but in that case I would suggest filling some up yourself before you go out or whatever.

 

[fresca]

I have the 510, and it's about the size of a 100s cigarette, just a tad longer, so (personally), I don't think it's large at all.

There are pre-filled cartridges out there for the 510. I just bought a black one, and it came with pre-filled cartridges, plus there were more available on the vendor's website. I'm not sure if they come in a variety of flavors, though. I don't have any problem with filling. I don't use a syringe at all. I use a drop bottle and that's all. Only takes a couple of seconds...

As for batteries, I know the 510 has a bad rep for batteries -- having to change them every couple of hours -- but that's not the case with me. Maybe I don't use it as often as the average person, but I change batteries about 2-3 times a day. I carry a fully charged spare with me if I'm going to be away from a charger for too long (alternatively, I could buy a PCC, I suppose).

I would try a little of both, if I were you (and going for the 510). Get a few pre-filled carts, and a small bottle of liquid, and see which works best for you.

 

[cuda333]

I started ecigs about 3 weeks ago. since then I bought two RN 4078, Joye510, DSEcigar,
M401, and two 8084 micros. All work fine, but last week I bought my first DSE901, and it is by far my favorite.. I refill them all

 

[ClockWorK]

Good advice. Sounds like I'll stick with the 510. I want to order today.

The catch now seems to be finding a place to order the 510 and some zero-nicotine accessories from the same place. I wanted the Scorpion 510, but dietsmokes doesn't seem to have any zero-nic juice or carts.

And I'm getting a little confused with cartridges. From what I read, a Joye510 is the same as a Janty Dura, so the cartridges should be interchangable, right? I don't want to buy something incompatible.

And then there's the issue of finding this stuff from a US company, so I can get my stuff ASAP.

 

[gotthelife4u]

the 510 goes by many names, Dura-c,titan,yeti. All parts are interchangeable. You will not be disappointed with the 510.

 

[Robert]

US company for the 510 manual?
e-smokey treats
e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's

I've heard great things about this co. They have zero nic. in some flavors and all the 510 accesories.

I just ordered from them Saturday, hoping it will be here today or tommorow.

 

[ProfessorDaffy]

I'm a total newbie to e-cigs. I quit regular cigs over a year ago, and now smoke a few cloves each day instead of 15 cigarettes.

I found this site because of an ad for Blu. I've read these forums for a week, I'm not buying a Blu.

I currently just smoke in my car on my way to work, home, or lunch. Or occasionally with a cup of coffee.

I think I'm ready to make the jump to electronic cigarettes. I'm leaning toward a 510 after lurking in these forums for a week. I want good vapor and throat hit. However, I don't think I want/need any nicotine at all. (we'll see). And I'm kind of concerned about the 510 being kind of large, but it's regarded so well on these forums that I'm willing to get past that. And the manual battery sounds like a good idea.

And also, I don't want to spend too much time maintaining the equipment required for e-smoking. I don't mind replacing batteries/atomizers, but filling tubes with syringes full of flavor seems like a new complication to my life. But I can't seem to find many companies with pre-filled cartridges for the 510.

Am I better off going with a different unit that may be more geared toward just replacing cartridges, or should I just get the 510 and assume that I won't need to mess with it too often?

Any opinions are welcome. Sorry if this has been asked a zillion times. I'm just ready to make the jump, and would prefer to not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase.

I've tried quite a few and as much as I loved my 901, I have to admit the Joye510 is the machine for me. I do receoomend watching every video on YouTube to see every side. One thing you'll notice is that when they test, everyone seems to take a 5 second drag. Personally, I can't do that! On the 901 I got in the habit of taking a drag, stopping and dragging again. On the 901 I take a 2-3 second drag and get the same results.

I don't like carrying cartidges because then you have to deal with handling the cartridges and the caps. I carry a little bottle of liquid. I just top off the cartridge with 2-4 drops (depending how long I want to vape) and that's it. I end up replacing the filling in the carts about once a week or soon if I'm in the mood.

The biggest problem with a cartridge is you never know when it's going to run out and I'm not very good at saying, "okay I've had 12 puffs, that's one cigarette" and stop. But determining how many drops works for you as "one cigarette" you can just vape until the vape starts to die down. I'd tell you most carts only equal 4-10 cigarettes, but the problem is a cigarette is differnt for every one. If you take 3 second short drags like me, it will last longer then the 5 second heavy vapers out there.

The ONLY advantage analog cigrettes have is that you know when you're done.

I find the 510 more consistant and less likely to clog than my 901. As for the manual switch, after a week you won't even know it's there. It just becomes second nature.

 

[AGNES PEACOCK]

I'm a total newbie to e-cigs. I quit regular cigs over a year ago, and now smoke a few cloves each day instead of 15 cigarettes.

I found this site because of an ad for Blu. I've read these forums for a week, I'm not buying a Blu.

I currently just smoke in my car on my way to work, home, or lunch. Or occasionally with a cup of coffee.

I think I'm ready to make the jump to electronic cigarettes. I'm leaning toward a 510 after lurking in these forums for a week. I want good vapor and throat hit. However, I don't think I want/need any nicotine at all. (we'll see). And I'm kind of concerned about the 510 being kind of large, but it's regarded so well on these forums that I'm willing to get past that. And the manual battery sounds like a good idea.

And also, I don't want to spend too much time maintaining the equipment required for e-smoking. I don't mind replacing batteries/atomizers, but filling tubes with syringes full of flavor seems like a new complication to my life. But I can't seem to find many companies with pre-filled cartridges for the 510.

Am I better off going with a different unit that may be more geared toward just replacing cartridges, or should I just get the 510 and assume that I won't need to mess with it too often?

Any opinions are welcome. Sorry if this has been asked a zillion times. I'm just ready to make the jump, and would prefer to not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase.

Welcome to ECF ClockWork:

You are better off with the (manual battery of Dura-C, 510, Titan, etc.. ) Buy a kit that comes with a few prefilled cartridges. (Just make sure you get the manual battery.) It is made for dripping, which I am thinking you may gravitate to. (A few drops of liquid on the atomizer every so often and you don't need to use the prefilled cartridges.) But it is just fine for using the prefilled cartridges also. So, get yourself a good bottle of liquid too.

Just get one in your hand and then you will be able to make the decision as to how you want to fill it, and what works best for you.

Good luck to you.

 

[ClockWorK]

Okay. I'm on the edge of pushing the 'proceed to checkout' button.

$59.95 JOYE 510 Electronic Cigarette Kit - Black - Blue
$3.00 Blank Cartridges for the JOYE 510 Electronic Cigarette (5 Blanks)
$12.99 Vanilla e-Smokey Treats e-Liquid - Zero Nicotine 0MG/ML - PG

Am I missing anything? More blanks? I dunno..

I'll come back for the PCC in a week if I don't hate the kit.

 

[Boredoftheworld]

Okay. I'm on the edge of pushing the 'proceed to checkout' button.

I pushed that button about 4 hours ago. I ordered the same thing (added some chocolate carts and liquid). Good luck.

 

[ClockWorK]

Thanks for all the advice! The bunny rabbit convinced me to click the button.

This is a really good forum. Some forums on the net are just a mess, and full of jerks who do nothing but bash newbies and spout advertizements.

Now, I anxiously await my new toys. I'm sure there are enough 510 reviews on here, but if there aren't, I'll add one soon.

 

[AGNES PEACOCK]

Oh ....you two will be fine. You know ClockWork, I too love clove (Djarum). I have the Janty clove liquid. Definitely not as strong as Djarum but at least it's clove. I need to do some more searching for a stronger one. I remember someone saying that a supplier was going to make an attempt at Djarum. I'm on the hunt now.

Janty is not up and running right now, but they will be back if you want to try their liquid. They also have several other flavors in prefilled cartridges. Let us know what you think, and any other questions after you give it a try.

My best to you.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

...However, I don't think I want/need any nicotine at all ... And I'm kind of concerned about the 510 being kind of large ... I don't want to spend too much time maintaining the equipment required for e-smoking ... would prefer to not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase.

I also want to have at least some of my vaping be at 0 mg nicotine level. I'm really enjoying the vaping experience and want to engage in it a lot more than my previous 15 UltraLight analogs/day. This can be challenging. There is a great clamoring for higher and higher nicotine levels.

I currently use a KR808D-1 (myriad brand names, most of which are listed on the cigeasy.com site, where I bought my starter kit). This type has a disposable cartomizer (i.e., combined atomizer and cartridge). It has the advantage of not needing to "spend too much time maintaining the equipment." It's disadvantage is the the lowest nicotine level I've found for the prefilled cartomizers is 11 mg (from mist-stix.com, which also has the cheapest prices I've seen).

[NOTE: I am not affiliated with (nor do I get a kick-back from) either of these dealers, nor the e-liquid suppliers I mention below. And there are several other reputable, highly regarded vendors of this model and of the e-liquids.]

So for me (and, I guess, you), 0 nicotine pretty much means filling blank cartridges with liquid (which, as others have mentioned in this thread, is no big deal). And that has required me to get an additional/different device. I've just ordered a penstyle (DSE801, although there are several others). If you think the 510 is "kind of large," check out the penstyle: about 50% longer. And then, check out the mods (not so much longer, but fatter), e.g., Screwdriver, GG, Janty Stick. [People who use them swear by them.]

I've ordered a whole bunch of blank cartridges, which I'll fill with 0 mg liquid from such places as eliquidplanet.com, johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com, nuvape.com, and totallywicked-eliquid.com. Liquidxpress.com has what appears to be an excellent price for flavorless, non-nicotine liquid (to which you can add various flavorings). <-- All of this would be relevant for any style of e-cig, e.g., the 510.

As for "not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase": investigate thoroughly (especially here on ECF and the sites and video reviews referenced by people here). If you do, you will be able to "choose wisely."

However, your first e-cig purchase probably will not be your last. And I'm not just talking about replacement parts. This is a pretty new technology/industry and the perfect e-cig has yet to be invented (nor probably ever will be, at least perfect for everyon). And you (and I) are just beginning our exploration of it - we need to feel our way, with some trial and error.

Happy Vaping!

Don
[DonBoldUser -> my Blackberry Bold, not a new brand of e-cig]

Smoke-free and vaping for all of 11 days now ... haven't saved any money yet ... but having fun!

 

[mbolack]

I also smoked Djarum... the menthol one. And I'm new to vaping.
I bought a dura-c and am still learning. And I'm intrigued about the possibility of someone coming up with a real clovey imitation of the Djarums. Sure hope they do a menthol version. (Actually, I have always thought it was more like strong, sweet spearmint than menthol.) Someone keep us posted on this, ok?

 

[AGNES PEACOCK]

I also want to have at least some of my vaping be at 0 mg nicotine level. I'm really enjoying the vaping experience and want to engage in it a lot more than my previous 15 UltraLight analogs/day. This can be challenging. There is a great clamoring for higher and higher nicotine levels.

I currently use a KR808D-1 (myriad brand names, most of which are listed on the cigeasy.com site, where I bought my starter kit). This type has a disposable cartomizer (i.e., combined atomizer and cartridge). It has the advantage of not needing to "spend too much time maintaining the equipment." It's disadvantage is the the lowest nicotine level I've found for the prefilled cartomizers is 11 mg (from mist-stix.com, which also has the cheapest prices I've seen).

[NOTE: I am not affiliated with (nor do I get a kick-back from) either of these dealers, nor the e-liquid suppliers I mention below. And there are several other reputable, highly regarded vendors of this model and of the e-liquids.]

So for me (and, I guess, you), 0 nicotine pretty much means filling blank cartridges with liquid (which, as others have mentioned in this thread, is no big deal). And that has required me to get an additional/different device. I've just ordered a penstyle (DSE801, although there are several others). If you think the 510 is "kind of large," check out the penstyle: about 50% longer. And then, check out the mods (not so much longer, but fatter), e.g., Screwdriver, GG, Janty Stick. [People who use them swear by them.]

I've ordered a whole bunch of blank cartridges, which I'll fill with 0 mg liquid from such places as eliquidplanet.com, johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com, nuvape.com, and totallywicked-eliquid.com. Liquidxpress.com has what appears to be an excellent price for flavorless, non-nicotine liquid (to which you can add various flavorings). <-- All of this would be relevant for any style of e-cig, e.g., the 510.

As for "not hate/regret my first e-cig purchase": investigate thoroughly (especially here on ECF and the sites and video reviews referenced by people here). If you do, you will be able to "choose wisely."

However, your first e-cig purchase probably will not be your last. And I'm not just talking about replacement parts. This is a pretty new technology/industry and the perfect e-cig has yet to be invented (nor probably ever will be, at least perfect for everyon). And you (and I) are just beginning our exploration of it - we need to feel our way, with some trial and error.

Happy Vaping!

Don
[DonBoldUser -> my Blackberry Bold, not a new brand of e-cig]

Smoke-free and vaping for all of 11 days now ... haven't saved any money yet ... but having fun!

Hi Don:

Welcome to ECF. Let us know how that 801 compares to what you were using before. Bet it is a world of difference for you (for the better). Consider picking up a usb to use at your computer if you like the 801 and decide to stay with it. It will cut down your cost of batteries.

The next step up would be a Dura-C, 510, Titan, etc... (A manual battery of course.) The best personal vaporizer in my opinion for a beginner. I believe it to be the best performer of the tube type vaporizers. I really like the Dura-C and use it alot for special occasions (going out).

But my favorite is the manual battery Screwdriver. Quality, battery life, cost of maintaining, and of course it is a handcrafted piece of art. Not something throw away from China.

Sometime soon you may just find yourself with a manual battery too.

Best of luck to you.

 

[AGNES PEACOCK]

I also smoked Djarum... the menthol one. And I'm new to vaping.
I bought a dura-c and am still learning. And I'm intrigued about the possibility of someone coming up with a real clovey imitation of the Djarums. Sure hope they do a menthol version. (Actually, I have always thought it was more like strong, sweet spearmint than menthol.) Someone keep us posted on this, ok?

Hey moblack:

I like the Dura-C. Good warranty too. If we find that Djarum you can always mix menthol in it. I just purchased another brand of clove to try from a supplier here. Still have not found the Djarum one yet. Maybe it is not marketed yet. Let's keep up the search.

Welcome to ECF!

 

[DaBrat]

Wow lots of great stuff here.. trying to design my vaping experience vnot only to cut out analogs but maybe ecigs as well before long.

Just ordered my 510 and from what I am reading here I have at least a part of my strategy worked out... two batteries to start... both fully charged.. one loaded with nic juice second loaded with 0 nic juice.... vap the 0 til I need a hit of nic...

I know using the 510 will require a couple more batts for the rotation my order comes with two black manuals think I will order two titanium autos if I like it for the non nic carts.....

Whadaya Think?

 

[AGNES PEACOCK]

Wow lots of great stuff here.. trying to design my vaping experience vnot only to cut out analogs but maybe ecigs as well before long.

Just ordered my 510 and from what I am reading here I have at least a part of my strategy worked out... two batteries to start... both fully charged.. one loaded with nic juice second loaded with 0 nic juice.... vap the 0 til I need a hit of nic...

I know using the 510 will require a couple more batts for the rotation my order comes with two black manuals think I will order two titanium autos if I like it for the non nic carts.....

Whadaya Think?

Hey DaBrat:

The zero, and the nicotine hit sometimes was my plan last year when I started vaping too. Unfortunately, that little plan didn't get me off the analoges. Hopefully it works for you, as we all are different. But don't worry to much about that now. Just try to get transitioned over to the personal vaporizer how ever you have to do it with the strenght of nicotine that calms your cravings. You will understand more and be able to make adjustments when you have it in your hand and are using it. This is what is called the learning curve. Learning curve = not quite knowing what to expect, or what is right for you yet. Of course it also includes learning the tech stuff of it too. *Note: make sure to read and follow the directions that are included. Especially, the charging of the batteries so you get the optimal life out of them.

You're off to a good start because you have done your research. Good luck to you. Let us know how you like the 510.

And welcome to ECF, (the collective brain you are now joining.)

 

[ferretlovr]

Hi everyone. I'm also a noob. I ordered my first e-cig, a 51, from smokeytreats on Sunday and I am vaping as we speak (Tuesday p.m.) Amazing service. I haven't had a "real" cig since I opened the mail. The only problem I've had so far is remembering where I laid it down the last time I used it!!! A pocket is a must with these things.

Thanks for the good info here guys.