Not USA liquid?

[luckyskwirl]

I just bough some liquid from a site that claimed it was made in the US. After I received it, I realized that it was just china liquid re tagged. Does anyone know of a place that mixes everthing in the USA? I hate not knowing what is in it, and after reading the ingrediant list on this one (vanillian) I don't see how this is any better then just a reg analog. PLEASE HELP! I dont want to go back to smoking, it's already been too long. Thank you

 

[JC Okie]

LOTS of places make their own juice. Here are a few, but check the suppliers' forum for more: alien Vision, FreedomsmokeUSA, Vapor Bomb, Vapor Renu, Gourmet Vapor, Tasty Vapor.

 

[luckyskwirl]

Hmmm. I will try another one of those... Thank you

 

[popeye79]

I've heard great things about, and just ordered from, freedomsmokeusa (FSUSA).

HOWEVER... you should look at this before discriminating against the chinese (seems there's a fair bit of propoganda spawned by US manufactures).

YouTube - Chinese E-liquid Manufacturing Facilities

 

[wv2win]

Since all eliquid started in China and there have been no reported serious problems, I'm not sure why you have a concern with your eliquid. I would guess that Janty's eliquid is probably one of the most widely used in the US. And all of your atomizers are made in China.

 

[mwa102464]

ALL Nicotine IS COMING from CHINA so if you find Nicotine that is grown, processed and turned into liquid Nic here in the USA please let us all know about it. Not trying to be smart but we have been all through this in other threads about where juices come from, I'm pretty dam sure that no one and none of our vendors are making juices with American made Nic juice, therefor all the vendors that are calling there all USA JUICES made in the USA are pretty much full of it, there Nic is all coming from overseas, China or Belgium, mostly all Chinese made. Are the juices than mixed here in the USA yup many of them are and with PG.VG, and flavorings and other ingredients that come from here or other places, so believe it is mixed here when you see all USA made juice but don't for a second believe there Nic in that juice is coming from the USA. Even the Big Pharma companies are buying juice from overseas. There are few juice suppliers that are using 99.9 Nic most are using 99.7 because of the cost difference and availability, some of the Nic I have seen used is of a very poor grade, while others I have seen is of a very high grade. It does make a difference in your bottom line on how the final juice product turns out from my findings. Currently I'm DIY'ing with some very good 99.9 clear as water Nic and my DIY juice is really coming out very good, there are some other threads about this if you search around a bit

 

[Steam.Punk]

My favorite is Vermont Vapor. I have been using their juice for two years. Some people claim it causes atomizers to go away quicker, but when it comes to taste I haven't found any better. No, I am not posting for the company, I just REALLY like thei juice. Made in USA, ingredients on the website, and mostly VG. My favorites are tobacco, mint, mocha, vanilla and Cafe Au Lait.

 

[luckyskwirl]

I know that not all liquids from China are bad. When I first started there was a Marlboro flavor from there that I absolutely loved. My main concern was on the list of ingrediants, there were some that in my own research, have been shown that if inhaled, can cause health problems or even cancer. I lost my grandparents to lung cancer, and that is one of the reasons why I quit. I just want to make sure that I am not doing anything just as harmfu. Thank you for the information though, I am looking forward to taking in more info.

 

[luckyskwirl]

Thank you, do you know of any good sited for DIY juice? I've thought about it, just unsure of if it easy enough for me. Will do some checking. Again, thanks for all the help!

 

[jlarsen]

Halo's (halocigs.com) e-juices are mixed in the USA, using U.S. made VG and PG, and FDA approved flavors. The nicotine probably comes from China. They don't offer a lot of flavors, and no fruity ones, just four tobacco and three menthols. But most who try them like them.

It isn't paranoia to worry about the quality of Chinese juices. There's no guarantee about the quality of their PG, and many consumer products from China have been found to be tainted in recent years - the tainted dog and cat foods, tainted baby formula, drywall that gave off toxic fumes, children's toys with lead, and aqua beads that contained date-rape drugs... etc. It ISN'T completely propaganda.

 

[dormouse]

Vanillin is Vanilla

Lucky - OneStopDIYShop.com or DIYFlavorShack.com

 

[banjo]

ALL Nicotine IS COMING from CHINA so if you find Nicotine that is grown, processed and turned into liquid Nic here in the USA please let us all know about it.

The Box Elder Chemical Company in Utah manufactures its own nicotine juice, and many US suppliers buy their nic juice from this source, including Gourmet Vapors.

Here is a link to the Box Elder web site - http://www.boxelderchemicalsupply.com/index.php - I've bought their nic juice for DIY & it is excellent.

Also, I don't think that there is anything to fear about vaping juices from China. I have found the Dekang juices & HC flavors to be of excellent quality & consistency.

 

[Rosa]

To be fair, there is currently no regulation (U.S. or otherwise) in the industry of e-liquid - just because it's U.S. made doesn't mean it's going through any sort of testing or standards of any kind, also means that they could list whatever they want on the ingredients and put something totally different, it's probably not the case but it could happen. If you are concerned about it you may want to look into DIY.

 

[mwa102464]

The Box Elder Chemical Company in Utah manufactures its own nicotine juice, and many US suppliers buy their nic juice from this source, including Gourmet Vapors.

Here is a link to the Box Elder web site - Box Elder Chemical Supply - I've bought their nic juice for DIY & it is excellent.

That in fact is not correct, they manufacture but they do not make there own Nicotine, they buy it, and they buy it in China, Call them and ask them, I just spoke to someone from Box Elder 5 min ago,, see if they tell you what they did me, they will tell you they manufacture there Nicotine product in Utah, but they will not tell you where they get there Nicotine from, it comes from China, there is not one Nicotine manufacturing plant in the United states that ANYONE has been able to come up with that says they are getting there Nic from here in the united states Banjo, There is some Tobacco being grown in the USA in Kentucky, Virgina, and a couple other states and for years it was always bought up before the crops where even done being grown, this is the very first year this hasn't taken place, in fact there is One main family that are the only growers left here in the states and I know who this family is they just had a special on TV about them two days ago. Go call Box Elder if you don't believe me there number is = 888-962-5877 Ask them one question = where does your Nicotine come from, they will tell you they are not allowed to reveal there sources, they will however tell you they do manufacturing in Utah, but there not getting there Nic here in the USA from everything I have investigated so far. It also wouldn't pay for them to do so as cheap as they can buy high grade Nic from in China.!

I agree Box Elder does have good Nic I didn't say they didn't, I also didn't say there was anything wrong with Chinese liquids, especially since the Nic is coming from China

 

[Kleiv]

Obsidian Vapor Company is hand mixed in Colorado. They are a bit new to the scene, but they have good prices, and amazing juice. Worth giving them a shot. Obsidian Vapor Company

 

[wv2win]

To be fair, there is currently no regulation (U.S. or otherwise) in the industry of e-liquid - just because it's U.S. made doesn't mean it's going through any sort of testing or standards of any kind, also means that they could list whatever they want on the ingredients and put something totally different, it's probably not the case but it could happen. If you are concerned about it you may want to look into DIY.

I agree. Some US made suppliers make their liquid at the kitchen table. Not that means it's not safe but "made in US" does not make an eliquid safer than what we get from China.

 

[jlarsen]

To be fair, there is currently no regulation (U.S. or otherwise) in the industry of e-liquid - just because it's U.S. made doesn't mean it's going through any sort of testing or standards of any kind, also means that they could list whatever they want on the ingredients and put something totally different, it's probably not the case but it could happen. If you are concerned about it you may want to look into DIY.

Yes, but there are standards for PG, VG, and FDA approved flavors.

 

[Rosa]

Yes, but there are standards for PG, VG, and FDA approved flavors.

Which is why you'd want to DIY if you are concerned about it. There's no guarantee in place to make sure your USA vendors are using fda approved ingredients (they probably are, but you can't know for sure because nobody is checking up on them).

 

[lavixen]

i like this one E-JUICE USA

not sure about the nicotine/china thing tho.

 

[bruiser]

Living in Kentucky, I can tell everyone that there is still plenty of tobacco grown here. Not as much as there was some years ago, but still lots of it. I don't think anyone would have a problem obtaining real tobacco if they wanted. If anyone has ever tried smoking a cigarette made of cured tobacco, straight from the barn, then you know why cig companies run the tobacco through a manufacturing process. Now, cigar tobacco is a different story, but very little is grown in the USA, with the exception with the Connecticutt shade.

Vapreite says their organic tobacco juices are made with house extracted tobacco.