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Oh Oly! So glad you got to the Urgent Care, and sorry you had to go.
I honestly don't fret about my exact pg/vg ratios. I pre mix my base at 73% vg/20% pg/ 7% distilled water. My nic is always ordered in pg, most of my flavorings are pg based. I only mix for myself, so as long as I'm happy with my juice, I don't worry about the precise details
If push comes to shove, I have a contact with the manufacturer that is the only FDA approved supplier of Nic. They are the supplier of Nic to Pharma for patches and gum. I hadn't talked to him for almost a year and he hit me up Friday.
The smallest the sale is 10 Liters and it was to much for me (at the time). He turned me on the a supplier/co-packer. I bought a Liter and it showed up pee yellow. I called the co-packer and he said that's how it comes.
The Pharma supplier was blown away and apologized, and couldn't understand how it oxidized so much. All the Pharma containers are topped of with Boron so there is no oxidation..... I ended up with a worthless Liter of Nic.
Well I'm going to get back to him and see what's up... could be a GREAT resource in the future
The smallest the sale is 10 Liters and it was to much for me (at the time). He turned me on the a supplier/co-packer. I bought a Liter and it showed up pee yellow. I called the co-packer and he said that's how it comes.
The Pharma supplier was blown away and apologized, and couldn't understand how it oxidized so much. All the Pharma containers are topped of with Boron so there is no oxidation..... I ended up with a worthless Liter of Nic.
Well I'm going to get back to him and see what's up... could be a GREAT resource in the future
100% pg for me or maybe 80/20. That way if I vape too much I'll get a headache from the vg and it will slow me down. After Salem figured it out as to how much I vape 5 liters is overkill. It would last me 15 yrs.
Salem Mods is not my worry. If nothing else I could build one.
Here is the most in depth study on ecigs that I've seen The guy doing the study has never taken a puff off of a tobacco product so he does the part for someone that's never smoked. It's almost an hr. long.
Salem Mods is not my worry. If nothing else I could build one.
Here is the most in depth study on ecigs that I've seen The guy doing the study has never taken a puff off of a tobacco product so he does the part for someone that's never smoked. It's almost an hr. long.
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You heard that OLy.... 908 ORDERS 
Don't let that 'short and cute' thang fool you....
.... I sure wouldn't want to disobey her orders
Don't let that 'short and cute' thang fool you....
.... I sure wouldn't want to disobey her orders
I still order online so if they want to arrest me let em. I'd make a wager it wouldn't stick.Woohoo!!!! Happy 6 year belated vapeaversary, Bov!!!!!
@5c, you need to stock up before August 8. You do not have 2 years. It is already illegal in WA to purchase tobacco products online. It is a felony to do so. If you are forced to buy at a B&M after that date, I feel sure that taxes will be high.
I have been using RTS since they started their business. Very good, clean nic and they have a 30 day money back satisfaction guarantee. Not to mention that you save 20% off your first order of nic, PG and VG with code firstorder.
Hope everyone has a good week
New law in Pennsylvania.....If you order online and don't send in a 40% tax check......$$5000.00 fine and up to 5 years in prison....My thinking is those politicians deserve prison.....What a crock of sheet......
I use the Daath online juice calculator.....It was one of the first and I stuck right there....Daath has an online recipe archive as I'm sure most calculator sites do....I mix by flavor percentage....Usually around 10~12 percent total in the mix....I don't use base mix and just leave all components separate....Using the Daath I tell it what the Nic base is{PG} ratio PG to VG {70%PG 30%VG} then flavor percentages are plugged in....say flavor 1 is 7% and flavor 2 is 3%.....I think my max amount of flavor in a juice is 4 and that includes the Bavarian Cream that is in many mixes for creamy sweetness.....Just plug in a few numbers and the calculator spits out the recipe....I then write down the MLs for use next time...The last few years I've only used Daath when lowering nic percentage and when coming up with a new flavor juice....
Crown II is in rotation....First impressions....Good tank.....airflow only rotates from open too closed not 360*....top cap rotates one turn before off....top cap is smooth across without the raised portion on the Crown...no knurling....the air ring is almost flush with the tank sides....there are some slant cuts for grip on the top cap and air ring....It's sleeker than the Crown....so far the performance is on par with the Crown....Vapes pretty much the same.....I'm hell hammering to make a decision on whether or not to order on up....I got Crowns out the ying yang....Damn sure gonna add some Crown coils....Likely gonna be adding some IIs to the rotation....
Finally got that pipe off the junkyard Escape for Unc today....he was a little shocked when 70 miles from home I ran into 3 Mexican friends in the junkyard....I could tell he didn't like the fact I have Mexican friends...I don't like the fact he's got a stick up his azz so I guess were even....Trust this I've put my foot down....no one else will receive any help from me until some of my sheet gets done.....minus Mom of course....I don't see anybody offering me any help....not that I would accept it anyways....Were near 100* and the humidity is monsterous....Just another July down South
I use the Daath online juice calculator.....It was one of the first and I stuck right there....Daath has an online recipe archive as I'm sure most calculator sites do....I mix by flavor percentage....Usually around 10~12 percent total in the mix....I don't use base mix and just leave all components separate....Using the Daath I tell it what the Nic base is{PG} ratio PG to VG {70%PG 30%VG} then flavor percentages are plugged in....say flavor 1 is 7% and flavor 2 is 3%.....I think my max amount of flavor in a juice is 4 and that includes the Bavarian Cream that is in many mixes for creamy sweetness.....Just plug in a few numbers and the calculator spits out the recipe....I then write down the MLs for use next time...The last few years I've only used Daath when lowering nic percentage and when coming up with a new flavor juice....
Crown II is in rotation....First impressions....Good tank.....airflow only rotates from open too closed not 360*....top cap rotates one turn before off....top cap is smooth across without the raised portion on the Crown...no knurling....the air ring is almost flush with the tank sides....there are some slant cuts for grip on the top cap and air ring....It's sleeker than the Crown....so far the performance is on par with the Crown....Vapes pretty much the same.....I'm hell hammering to make a decision on whether or not to order on up....I got Crowns out the ying yang....Damn sure gonna add some Crown coils....Likely gonna be adding some IIs to the rotation....
Finally got that pipe off the junkyard Escape for Unc today....he was a little shocked when 70 miles from home I ran into 3 Mexican friends in the junkyard....I could tell he didn't like the fact I have Mexican friends...I don't like the fact he's got a stick up his azz so I guess were even....Trust this I've put my foot down....no one else will receive any help from me until some of my sheet gets done.....minus Mom of course....I don't see anybody offering me any help....not that I would accept it anyways....Were near 100* and the humidity is monsterous....Just another July down South
I got a 500 ml glass mixing cylinder and 3 liters of nic ordered. The nic for a liter of 100 is $50 a copy
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You heard that OLy.... 908 ORDERS
Don't let that 'short and cute' thang fool you....
.... I sure wouldn't want to disobey her orders
Wharf you made me lol this morning!!
Hey I take health related issues seriously. That's why I vape! Now if only these azz wipes would see Vaping as the miracle life saving device that it IS, none of us would have to worry about hurrying to stock up on supplies right now.
Yes ElDee, you are correct in the PA disaster that is taking place right now. I have no idea how long I will have my job. More importantly, how long our pa customers will have access to their supplies. Disgraceful mess it is.
Come to America they say, land of the free they say. That was once true and I used to be proud.....
I know that you could get out of it BUT, it would cost you $ in legal fees. I would hate to go through all of that if it were me. This is what I read here at ECF.
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r055co said: ↑ Yep, it's serious business that a lot of people are very naive about. Example is here in WA State it's a Class C Felony to buy Tobacco online."
"I'm reinforcing r055oo's point. And I've mentioned this incident in other threads.
There's a felony warrant in Washington State for my arrest.
And all I did was send a buddy a couple of ounces of pipe tobacco in return for some he'd sent me a year or so before. There was no mention anywhere of funds due. It was simply a gift. He and I didn't know the law applied to gifts.
But the posties smelled the tobacco in the shipment and alerted the authorities. The state heavies showed up at his door with the shipment in hand and arrested him in front of his wife and children.
He got off the beef finally, but it took him several thousands in legal fees.
In the meantime, a class-C felony warrant was sworn out on me also. Obviously, even to the Washington State tobacco thugs, it's not worth trying to extradite me from Illinois. But every couple of years, I get a nasty letter telling me I'm a fugitive from justice and ordering me to show up in Washington State for arrest and arraignment.
Needless to say, I'll never, ever, go to Washington State for any reason.
Where tax money is involved, states and the federal government will stop at almost nothing to get what they think is due them. And, if the law allows, they'll throw your sorry fundament in the slammer."
That ^^^^^ is just not something that I would want to put myself through.
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Oh Oly! So glad you got to the Urgent Care, and sorry you had to go.
I honestly don't fret about my exact pg/vg ratios. I pre mix my base at 73% vg/20% pg/ 7% distilled water. My nic is always ordered in pg, most of my flavorings are pg based. I only mix for myself, so as long as I'm happy with my juice, I don't worry about the precise details
That's what I do too, Bov. I always have about a liter of premixed base on hand. That way when I need to make juice for us all I need to do is pour it in a bottle and add flavor. Easy, peasy. Just the way that I like it.
Well here's my point. I live in the democrappic state of WA. and my argument is they should of done a better job of getting the word out. If I were arrested for it I would talk to an attorney about starting litigation against this state. Besides with all my medical complications it would cost them dearly to keep me in there.
I sure hope my nic gets through. I would hate to have it confiscated and lose all that dough.
I sure hope my nic gets through. I would hate to have it confiscated and lose all that dough.
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Is this worth the money or is it better to get items individually. Looking for the list of items you would need to do the mixing. i've found these DIY MIXING KITS and DIY Mixing Starter Kit
any suggestions.
any suggestions.
Oh, it will! You are fine as long as you get it before August the 8th. It is not tobacco before that date
That's why I am urging you to stock up now.
Then why did your friend. It is against the law here.Oh, it will! You are fine as long as you get it before August the 8th. It is not tobacco before that date
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