NotCigs Terminator Pre-Review

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BuzzKill credits my 5V RIT with inspiring his latest project, the Terminator. In appreciation, he was kind enough to send me a prototype for testing.

The Terminator is a simple device that only does one thing, but it does it well. It's basically a variable-voltage regulator stuffed into a 901 atty tube, with connectors at both ends. Though it uses a 901 tube, it will be available with either 901 or 510 connectors when it goes on sale. Its intended usage is to go between any large mod and atty, and give you all the benefits of variable-voltage vaping without having to purchase a whole new mod. If you have a SB or Chuck or any other 18650 mod, you can use this device with two 15240, 16340, or 18350 batteries (depending on what will fit your mod) and set the voltage to whatever you like. Two 3.7V batteries work best, but two 3V batteries will also work with a slightly lower max voltage.

I've only had the device for a day, but so far it is performing exactly as designed. The voltage adjustment screw protrudes slightly (less than 1mm), but not enough to get caught on anything. It turns easily, but is almost impossible to be accidentally knocked out of adjustment. I should point out that mine is a hand-made prototype, so the final device may look slightly different. For example, you might notice some tool marks around the adjustment screw hole. I have been assured that the final production tubes are being drilled by a machine shop and will be blemish-free.

Here's the results of of my voltage measurements using two freshly charged 18350 batteries in my Indulgence:

Battery voltage: 8.38v unloaded & unregulated
Battery voltage: 6.62v unregulated with 3ohm load

Regulated voltage with 3ohm load:

Turns - Voltage
0 - - - 2.43
1 - - - 2.59
2 - - - 3.11
3 - - - 3.65
4 - - - 4.25
5 - - - 4.83
6 - - - 5.40
7 - - - 5.78
8 - - - 5.81

As expected, going past the min and max points on the pot doesn't change the voltage. However, the pot does "remember" how many turns past you've gone. So if you're turning it down to get to minimum and overshoot by two turns, you'll have to go back up two turns before the voltage starts to rise.

I also did a simple heat test by running it at 5.1V into my 3ohm dummy load for a solid minute. The regulator got warm, but not nearly as hot as an atty would have. It didn't shut down, and the voltage only dropped by 0.04V. Based on this, I'd say this would hold up to even the most fiendish chain-vaper.

So there you have it. The Terminator is a great little device that has the potential to breathe new life into some of the older big battery mods. Heck, you could even use it with two 14250 batteries in a 14500 mod if you want. And I assure you, once you have the ability to set the exact voltage you like, you won't want to go back.
 

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Also, can you check it with LR atomizers? I would love to use 4.2V regulated with my LRs.

That would be pointless. I only have one spare LR 510, and I'm not going to pop it just for the heck of it. LR attys are for low voltage devices that need the wattage boost. You can get a lot more of a boost using this with regular attys. A 1.5ohm atty at 4.2V is 11.76W. You get the same wattage from a 2.3ohm 510 at 5.2V, and the standard 510 is much more capable of handling the heat.
 

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That would be pointless. I only have one spare LR 510, and I'm not going to pop it just for the heck of it. LR attys are for low voltage devices that need the wattage boost. You can get a lot more of a boost using this with regular attys. A 1.5ohm atty at 4.2V is 11.76W. You get the same wattage from a 2.3ohm 510 at 5.2V, and the standard 510 is much more capable of handling the heat.

Thanks for your response candre23.

The thing is that I finally found the atomizers I like and are as durable as I want. They are EM-LR (510 & 901) and already have 70 of them :w00t:

I like them more than regular atomizers on 5V, HV on 6V and VHV on 7.4V (and the mixes and matches), they are cheap and my first lasted for 2 months (I am on my second now).

So, I am just interested on improving the experience by keeping - regulated - the same voltage from start of batteries to finish. I am not interested to throw away my - great performing - atomizers and get other, non-LR, atomizers :laugh:

Something providing the same voltage (I will discover my regulated sweet spot) seems a great solution. If it works with my atomizers.
 

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Thanks for your response candre23.

The thing is that I finally found the atomizers I like and are as durable as I want. They are EM-LR (510 & 901) and already have 70 of them :w00t:

I like them more than regular atomizers on 5V, HV on 6V and VHV on 7.4V (and the mixes and matches), they are cheap and my first lasted for 2 months (I am on my second now).

So, I am just interested on improving the experience by keeping - regulated - the same voltage from start of batteries to finish. I am not interested to throw away my - great performing - atomizers and get other, non-LR, atomizers :laugh:

Something providing the same voltage (I will discover my regulated sweet spot) seems a great solution. If it works with my atomizers.

I use LR 510s from EM at 4v- 4.2 on my BUZZ and love it. They don't pop on me. I keep them wet and love the vape from them. I might think some other suppliers LR attys might pop at over 4v like some I have used in the past but EM's attys are well made and I have had good success for the couple of months using them.
 

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I use LR 510s from EM at 4v- 4.2 on my BUZZ and love it. They don't pop on me. I keep them wet and love the vape from them. I might think some other suppliers LR attys might pop at over 4v like some I have used in the past but EM's attys are well made and I have had good success for the couple of months using them.
Great to hear that, I also flirt with the idea of a Buzz these days...

As for the EM-LRs, yes, they refuse to die. When my first one started acting lazy I placed it on my 5V - 2A passthrough for a couple of hours. It was still lazy and I threw it away but never stopped working.

How many hours of vaping do you get with your setup (Buzz / LR / 4-4.2V)?
 
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Great to hear that, I also flirt with the idea of a Buzz these days...

As for the EM-LRs, yes, they refuse to die. When my first one started acting lazy I placed it on my 5V - 2A passthrough for a couple of hours. It was still lazy and I threw it away but never stopped working.

How many hours of vaping do you get with your setup (Buzz / LR / 4-4.2V)?

I get from 6-8 hrs usually. Yeah I agree with you. The ones I have had I tossed before they ever died.. lol
 

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Haven't tried it with an 801. The adapter is only going to be made in 510 and 901, so you'd have to use an adapter. Other than that, it should work the same no matter what atty you use. Length will depend on what atty/cart/tip you're using. The indulgence with the terminator, a 901 atty and a good prophets drip tip is exactly 200mm (7 7/8 inches).

One small issue with the indulgence specifically is that the center post on the battery side connector is not quite as recessed as it is on a normal atty. This isn't a problem for most mods, but the 901 adapter for the indulgence has the center post flush with the threads. So between the two, you can't really screw the terminator all the way down.
 

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Thanks for the measurements that would make it over 9 in with a 801. I've decided to go ahead and order a Buzz but will probably order a terminator for my indulgence too when they come out if I'm not in the poor house by then. lol You guys gotta quit inventing stuff, well except for the auto feeder with a varible. I can't wait for those to come out.
 
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