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Thanks for posting this htchhikr! It seems fairly balanced, with common sense being refreshingly injected. No mention of UK's ASH coming out in favor of the ecig recently, only some emotive 2008 concerns about China's quality control. I like the author's take, but I think there should have been more research into the current reports, and how there hasn't been any significant health issues at all with ecigs, or how children are not interested in them.
 

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Thanks for posting this htchhikr! It seems fairly balanced, with common sense being refreshingly injected. No mention of UK's ASH coming out in favor of the ecig recently, only some emotive 2008 concerns about China's quality control. I like the author's take, but I think there should have been more research into the current reports, and how there hasn't been any significant health issues at all with ecigs, or how children are not interested in them.

UK's ASH are not "coming out in favour of the e-cig" exactly and the more that is said they will be coming under pressure from UK and US anti e-cig groups to change their stance. BBC News - Proof lacking on e-cigarettes' safety, experts warn

Their latest statement is
Deborah Arnott, of the charity Action on Smoking and Health, said: "We do need better data on safety and appropriate regulation for e-cigarettes, although these products are certain to be significantly less hazardous than cigarettes, which lead to premature death in half all long-term users."
She said there was demand for the products from smokers - UK estimates suggest around one in ten has already tried them.

So with that line "We do need...." they are giving themselves room for an about turn should they need one.
We have to be careful what we say and not put words into people's mouths that we may regret.
 
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UK's ASH are not "coming out in favour of the e-cig" exactly and the more that is said they will be coming under pressure from UK and US anti e-cig groups to change their stance. BBC News - Proof lacking on e-cigarettes' safety, experts warn

Their latest statement is
Deborah Arnott, of the charity Action on Smoking and Health, said: "We do need better data on safety and appropriate regulation for e-cigarettes, although these products are certain to be significantly less hazardous than cigarettes, which lead to premature death in half all long-term users."
She said there was demand for the products from smokers - UK estimates suggest around one in ten has already tried them.

So with that line "We do need...." they are giving themselves room for an about turn should they need one.
We have to be careful what we say and not put words into people's mouths that we may regret.

Thank goodness for some common sense commentry on the subject. Thanks for the link :)

Private enterprise Health New Zealand did find cancer-causing chemicals in products, but concluded that overall e-cigarettes should be recommended on the basis of the health risks associated with smoking normal cigarettes.
The researchers told the BMJ: "The scarce evidence indicates the existence of various toxic and carcinogenic compounds in e-cigarettes, albeit in possibly much smaller concentrations than in traditional cigarettes."

I agree completely

A Department of Health spokeswoman said it had been working with regulators to test the products and that none of those tested so far complied with product safety regulations.
She said the government was working to ensure e-cigarettes were labelled and sold appropriately.

Quite right. So they should.

Deborah Arnott, of the charity Action on Smoking and Health, said: "We do need better data on safety and appropriate regulation for e-cigarettes, although these products are certain to be significantly less hazardous than cigarettes, which lead to premature death in half all long-term users."

Absolutely.

Like I said. Thank goodness for common sense opinion from the people that matter in the UK.
I'm a bit disappointed by the BMJ's negative stance, but I guess it is true. It IS impossible to know 100%. BUT, most people who bother to exercise the neocortex that God gave them can figure it out without a £10m study on the issue. If ASH UK can even see the harm reduction benefit, then I guess we have good progress :)
 
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