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Let me just toss out there that I've seen serious clouds on an bud worx era atty on youtube plenty of times ;)

Crazy clouds that I'd never come close to in my life time hehe.

A few years old but hunt for them.

Also don't forget the derringer while 22mm is tiny short! The only 22mm atty I liked and I'm a mtl hitter.
 
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I've got a black AFC I'm not using if you want it. When I bought my all SS Nuppin a while back the SS AFC had a pretty bad scuff on it. I emailed PDib about it and he said all he had was black ones left so he sent me one.

If you have an extra SS AFC, I'll be glad to trade you for it! I've never used it, it's just sitting in the little baggie in my vape toolbox.
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Thanks for the kind offer. I will gladly take you up on it... and I have an unused SS AFC to trade you for a Black AFC.
Lets start a conversation on the side to make the swap before we get carded for not being in the trade thread sticky.
 

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I had my nuppin sitting in my vape toolbox for months. I guess I was really never impressed by the flavor from it. People on here told me I was doing something wrong and I may have been at the time. I'll admit my favorite atomizer to date is the cyclone. I don't know what it is about that atty, but to me it's just perfect and it always pleases me.
You guys were just talking about 22mm and derringers, and I too am sorta shying away from them slowly. I had bought a derringer clone online and drilled the post myself to get it working on the reo about maybe 4 or 5 months ago. From the first day I sqounked it and vaped it, I've loved it. It's been on my reos the entire time until now. I decided it's time to change things up and give the little guy another chance.
The last time I used the nuppin I was getting spit back and juice in my mouth, so I rewicked using a different method someone had recommended and it worked. The vapor was really good opened up, but to me the flavor wasn't as good as my cyclone. I realized my cyclone was burning a hotter coil. I remember when I first got my reo I had ordered it with an RM5, the most hated RM there is and I loved it. When I first started I was into making big aYuss clouds so I was building really low ohm coils and probably doing things I shouldn't have done right off the bat being so green. I didn't really know about battery safety and shorts and the amps. I was building crazy coils with resistance below .2 sometimes even below .15ohms. The flavor from the rm5 with air wide open was amazing. But I sacrificed battery life and juice, I'd have to sqounk after two hits.
I got away from that as I started to learn and experiment more and I had bought some other different atomizers to play with. Well, I kinda went back to my roots a little just now, I wanna give this nuppin a good fighting chance and I'm certainly not gonna give up on it. I just built two of the most beautiful "ugly coils" I've ever seen. I really hope this works and gives me the flavor I'm looking for. I used 26g kanthal, wrapped around my trusty q-tip rod, they have 6 wraps and the resistance is at .366ohms. With that said, this is the lowest I've tried with the nuppin so far. The last time I had 26g micro coils that were at .6ohms so we'll see about this one right here!! Sorry for the long post, I've read and read pages and pages thru this thread and just sit and wonder if it's me, my taste buds. This is kinda why I figured it wouldn't hurt to drop the resistance down a little and throw some sick aYuss ugly coils in there and take it back a notch to my roots of early coil making days. Here's the pics.
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When I took the first hit after building it, simply wasn't impressed. Then I realized I should give it a freshly charged battery and then boom... out came the vapor packed with flavor up there even to my cyclone. Happy again and it's good.
The thing with the cyclone, it's a long story but basically I spent months literally months trying different things to get flavor to emerge with AFC cap. It seemed like I had tried everything possible that would fit in the tiny chamber. Single nano, single micro, dual nano, dual micro, different wick material KGD, organic cotton and finally rayon. Eventually I stumbled onto the single twisted micro coil. I had 28g back then and it was the best I've ever tasted and that was it. I had finally found what I needed to get what I wanted out of my cyclone. I ran out of 28g wire and had 26g so the next time I built a new coil using 26g I was amazed that the flavor was even better than before. I use a 26g twisted micro coil in my cyclone and the resistance is always between .45 and .5, wicked with CCR (Rayon). It really is hard to beat the flavor I get out of my cyclone with any other atty I try on my other reos. I always have at least one grand with a cyclone setup on it. That's my base line, if the other atty is just as good or better than it stays. Up until now, the only other atty that has met that criteria has been the derringer. The derringer is tough to beat, however the constant cleaning of juice around the cap and juice build up on AFC sleeve has been driving me nuts and it was time for a change. The one thing I remember about the nuppin was it not leaking and doesn't drip juice when you pull the cap. Flavor was close but never better than my cyclone and when I got my derringer it immediately went into the box. I figured why not, if this doesn't work I've got an atomic that will produce to my standards.


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I don't build anything higher than .7 ohms, not my cup of tea. Yeah they are a little low, but they still fall inline with the air intakes just fine. And as far as wrapping bigger than I already have isn't going to happen. My DT protrudes about 1 to 2mm into the area where all that magic happens and I'd be afraid that coils would touch DT and create a short.
I noticed that when "q-ing" the coils I was using a 3/32 bit and the coils had a bigger ID than that. Idk the diameter of a Qtip stick, but I can tell you it's bigger than a 3/32 so what maybe just over 3mm I'm guessing. In the picture they don't look that big but they have a pretty good ID already. Now I'd definitely shove bigger coils into my derringer, without a doubt.
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And SS, I do agree with you on coil height. I would normally build a little higher from the deck, buts it's been a while since I've used my nuppin and was playing it safe.


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Nice write ups JetMac. Lots of factors involved doing builds. But for my coil/wick building matching the build to what for my tastes is the sweet spot of the particular joose it will drive for my DLH's gets top priority. Hence, I don't have just one 'does all' build for the Nuppin'. I have 8 Nuppin's on line running 8 different liquids... and no two of them have the same build. In fact they run a wide gamut of builds, with one as much more different as the next as it is to another and so on. Currently 4 wire gauges wrapped around 4 different form sizes (one for RxW3 also used for other wicking); single and dual; contact, ugly, even parallel, uneven parallel, twisted; .35 to 1.0 ohm net; RxW3, KGD, rarely but sometimes CC; coils mounted in various positions... slant, horizontal to slot(s) even to high, on dual height same or uneven side to side; with 1 or 2 slots partially to wide open or 3 slots all wide open with AFC sleeve removed. Lots of T&E, but the Nuppin's are getting it done for me.

Love my two 2013 Cyclones as well, the Chalice's and other smaller atty's.
 

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Travelling and don't have it with me - but I am running a Nuppin with your Cyclone build in in - a single, over-the top twisted 28 at 0.5 ohms. Personally, I love the Cyclone with the AFC - but I love my Nuppins a little bit more. Just thought I'd point out that weird option - a single centered coil in a Nuppin. The coil is high - you'll get some extra heat off it (especially for me with my shorty drip tips)...
 

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Travelling and don't have it with me - but I am running a Nuppin with your Cyclone build in in - a single, over-the top twisted 28 at 0.5 ohms. Personally, I love the Cyclone with the AFC - but I love my Nuppins a little bit more. Just thought I'd point out that weird option - a single centered coil in a Nuppin. The coil is high - you'll get some extra heat off it (especially for me with my shorty drip tips)...

I'd love to see a picture of the build so I can give it a try.

And Spydro, yeah I totally get it...lots and lots of trail and error for sure. Luckily, I've only got one Nuppin and I am looking for that perfect everyday coil like I have already found with my cyclone.

And train2, that's the one thing I still haven't tried in my nuppin is a single twisted coil like what's in my cyclone. Maybe that's the trick at least for me. Thanks fellas'


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Gonna be away from that Reo all week, so I looked for it - it was only a bunch of pages back!
So my first try was here - and if you go backwards, there are several people posting about single/centered coils in a Nuppin...
I rebuilt it - similar, but 28 and about .55 ohms.
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I'd love to see a picture of the build so I can give it a try.

And Spydro, yeah I totally get it...lots and lots of trail and error for sure. Luckily, I've only got one Nuppin and I am looking for that perfect everyday coil like I have already found with my cyclone.

And train2, that's the one thing I still haven't tried in my nuppin is a single twisted coil like what's in my cyclone. Maybe that's the trick at least for me. Thanks fellas'


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To update... I've been playing with parallel top center builds in my Nuppin's for some months now, and they are becoming my favorite flavor/vapor builds in the Nuppin's... the AFC with 2 or 3 slots wide open to slightly restricted for my LDLH's. Every parallel build tried with various gauges with same gauge or two different gauge coils has seemed to work well, so it's just a matter of matching them to the joose they will run. My builds have been from 3.5-1.0 ohm, with most in the .4-.7 range. Thinking about drilling a second intake in the Chalice II for top center parallel builds, seeing if I can fit one in the 2013 Cyclones and drilling them if I can.

IMO a top center parallel coil is worth a try in any atty that has the room for it if flavor/vapor is your game.
 

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To update... I've been playing with parallel top center builds in my Nuppin's for some months now, and they are becoming my favorite flavor/vapor builds in the Nuppin's... the AFC with 2 or 3 slots wide open to slightly restricted for my LDLH's. Every parallel build tried with various gauges with same gauge or two different gauge coils has seemed to work well, so it's just a matter of matching them to the joose they will run. My builds have been from 3.5-1.0 ohm, with most in the .4-.7 range. Thinking about drilling a second intake in the Chalice II for top center parallel builds, seeing if I can fit one in the 2013 Cyclones and drilling them if I can.

IMO a top center parallel coil is worth a try in any atty that has the room for it if flavor/vapor is your game.

Not enough room on a cyclone above the posts to the top cap. But on the cyclone w/ afc there was be plenty of room! ;)

And that will be my first build on my new coilmaster 521.
 

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My build was no good or sonething on the cyclone w/afc with a above .9ohm parallel coil.

Used 30 gauge wire and 2.5mm coil and first time it wasn't high enough. Then the second time was high enough but too much air and not much vapor. Kinda like a dry hit.

Played alot eith the afc holes with small medium and full open.. thrn single hole. All didn't matter.

Then I noticed I could pull my coil up a little more as I had some play in the wire so I lifted the coil to where basicly it's right below the drip tip.. still no good.

Crazy.. just too much room around the coil it seems and the air is not touching the coil much at all.

I even pulled the top off and hit the button to test the coil and it had crazy vapor shooting off it so the build had to be good along with the kgd.

Prob need 3.5 or 4mm coil.
 
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