NY Hostpital Bans ecigarettes after fire???

[willie_pete]

http://www.dailymail. co.uk/news/article-2610429/NY-hospital-bans-e-cigarettes-fire-injury.html

NY hospital bans ecigarettes after fire njury | Mail Online

Really? I wonder if this is just more propaganda to get the FDA and big Government involved in regulation. But then again, why would you be vaping when you are hooked up to oxygen?

 

[Amraann]

The fire investigator is quoted as saying that the exact cause of the fire has not been determined. This could be something wrong with the Oxygen machine and have nothing at all to do with the e-cig.

 

[Storm52]

Reading the article, I would hope the hospital originally had the patient admitted for psych observation. Using o2 around glowing device...great idea.

 

[Elizabeth Baldwin]

Also the patient had a lighter. So, nobody knows what really happened to actually cause the fire until the investigation is finished.

 

[willie_pete]

"The fire investigation at St. Joe's comes at a time when there is growing concern nationally about the safety of e-cigarettes which are not regulated by the government and have been linked to poisonings and fires."

This is the media getting us ready for regulation. They put bits of info out there so people only really see, poisoning and fires, without having to provide a bit of evidence.

 

[MorpheusPA]

Let's see. Oxygen. Heated coil. Possible hot spot or dry hit.

Yeah, that sounds really intelligent.

However, the hospital could simply ban e-cigs in rooms using oxygen. The problem isn't one or the other, it's the two when they get together and party.

 

[Rob0506]

Maybe they should start by banning lighters? I assume there is no smoking allowed there anyway, so why allow lighters in a room with an oxygen tank?

 

[dice57]

see people puffing away while dragging an O2 bottle behind them, daily. No surprise there. lmao.

 

[realsis]

Probably nothing to do with the e cigarette, but they had to blame it on that. Just some more negative press. For once I'd like to see a headline that reads 30 year smoker quits cigarettes with the help of vaping! We could all make the news then! Or how about woman no longer needs inhaler to breathe due to quitting smoking and vaping instead! Or this my personal favorite, woman's lungs no longer hurt because she quit smoking and took up vaping instead! These headlines are out there they just choose not to print them which is sad. They are not showing the truth about vaping. They only print negative stuff and I'm so tired of it! For once can't they print something positive!

 

[willie_pete]

Probably nothing to do with the e cigarette, but they had to blame it on that. Just some more negative press. For once I'd like to see a headline that reads 30 year smoker quits cigarettes with the help of vaping! We could all make the news then! Or how about woman no longer needs inhaler to breathe due to quitting smoking and vaping instead! Or this my personal favorite, woman's lungs no longer hurt because she quit smoking and took up vaping instead! These headlines are out there they just choose not to print them which is sad. They are not showing the truth about vaping. They only print negative stuff and I'm so tired of it! For once can't they print something positive!

That's the whole point. Nothing positive. It's all about control and public opinion. No facts.

 

[Kbennett65]

Reading the article, I would hope the hospital originally had the patient admitted for psych observation. Using o2 around glowing device...great idea.

Are there any casinos around you? There are several Native American owned/operated casinos around me, all allow smoking and I am shocked by how many people are chain smoking while using oxygen. Gotta say I haven't seen vaping while using o2 yet, but I'm sure it happens too.

 

[Purplepeeps]

My mom his having surgery there in a month. I'll be interested to find out if there are signs, banning e-cigs.

 

[eebant]

My father was on an oxygen tank for 10 years due to mesothelioma. The delivery man/driver of the oxygen tanks smoked cigarettes. He always told us that we wouldn't blow up if we were smoking around the oxygen tank. That there'd just be an orange "glow" IF my FATHER smoked while using the oxygen tank, which he didn't.

And yes, we did smoke while near him. NOTHING ever happened.

 

[Bunnykiller]

in the article it mentioned that the tube supplying the O2 was burning ( shooting out a flame) makes it sound like the gas was flaming... Like a propane torch would do.... the people who write these articles need to go back to school and re-learn the topics they write about. If the writer knew thier chemistry, they would have not written the blurb about the oxygen burning. O2 doesnt burn, it causes things to burn. Now considering vg/pg can burn,and in a highly O2 rich enviroment, I can see something in the nature of a flash burn occur which could result in a domino effect with the linen etc, but it would have to be like in an O2 tent condition at better than 75% O2 saturation...

 

[LondonGirl]

Is this the story about the woman who tried to light her e-cig with a lighter?

Also, don't believe anything you read in the Daily Mail.

 

[retired1]

Moved to Media and General News. Broke the link.

As a reminder: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-links-junk-science-other-rubbish-posts.html

 

[rmk_kelly]

Probably nothing to do with the e cigarette, but they had to blame it on that. Just some more negative press. For once I'd like to see a headline that reads 30 year smoker quits cigarettes with the help of vaping! We could all make the news then! Or how about woman no longer needs inhaler to breathe due to quitting smoking and vaping instead! Or this my personal favorite, woman's lungs no longer hurt because she quit smoking and took up vaping instead! These headlines are out there they just choose not to print them which is sad. They are not showing the truth about vaping. They only print negative stuff and I'm so tired of it! For once can't they print something positive!

The media rarely prints anything positive about anything. It is so frustrating to me that I stopped watching the news and reading news papers. I have enough going on in my life that I don't need outside influence to further dampen my spirits.

 

[CassiusCloud]

this was the first article from there about this ,back on the 13th.

www. dailymail .co.uk/news/article-2603975/OAP-engulfed-flames-seriously-burned-e-cigarette-ignites-oxygen-Manchester-hospital.html

OAP burned after her e-cigarette ignites oxygen at Manchester hospital | Mail Online

 

[mostlyclassics]

Something really doesn't make sense here.

The only study of which I'm aware (New Zealand) determined that the temperature of an e-cigarette coil was 56 degrees Centigrade (= about 130 degrees Farenheit). Does PG or VG have such a low flash-point (are either even flammable?), and if so, why aren't we running internal combustion engines with these compounds?

Anything else in that hospital room must have had a higher flash-point than 56 degrees Centigrade.

I'll be very interested to see the report, but I'll bet it's never released to the public.

 

[MorpheusPA]

Something really doesn't make sense here.

The only study of which I'm aware (New Zealand) determined that the temperature of an e-cigarette coil was 56 degrees Centigrade (= about 130 degrees Farenheit). Does PG or VG have such a low flash-point (are either even flammable?), and if so, why aren't we running internal combustion engines with these compounds?

Both PG and VG are flammable and have a flash point. For VG, it's about 320 degrees. For PG, I can't find it offhand, but the stuff won't even boil until 370 degrees.

We don't run internal combustion engines with them because a) they're too expensive per gallon, and b) both leave a sticky residue post-burning.