NYC bans ecigs indoors. The mind boggles.

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navigator2011

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Grrr...My university is mulling the same type of ban (zero smoking/vaping campus--including outdoors), based on the same "it LOOKS just like a cigarette" BS. Really? My PV's and all of yours here look NOTHING like cigarettes. Do these people even know what they're banning? Have they actually seen an "e-cig"?

Mini-rant, but yeah, it's not about our health, or even about "offending" others. We know the real reason. As goes NYC, let us not allow the rest of the country to follow!

Just modify an asthma inhaler with a cig-a-like battery & carto and you're set. No confusion, then.
 

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“Because many of the E-cigarettes are designed to look like cigarettes and be used just like them, they can lead to confusion or confrontation.”

Translation; "I am a confused. I need my Nanny."

Pathetic, NYC Council... such ignorance.

I was watched the whole dog and pony show on the live feed...

I have a lot to say about how the vaping community handled this, and how this could have gone down differently, especially after witnessing how the 8 votes that went our way happened, but I'll bite my tongue for now....
 

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Totally unenforceable. I've been stealth vaping for quite some time in my office. No one knows. No one ever will. And no one is mistaking my MVP for a freakin cigarette. What a crock. Why are we paying these people?

Um, well, me too. And, yeah, it is totally unenforceable. Even if it was, do the police really have time and resources for this kind of crap? To be nanny state enforcers? Sheesh!!!
 

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Um, well, me too. And, yeah, it is totally unenforceable. Even if it was, do the police really have time and resources for this kind of crap? To be nanny state enforcers? Sheesh!!!

Nah. Police here are far too busy sitting outside the stores on 5th Ave looking for a black person who dares to walk out with a brand name item. Gotta love government sanctioned racial profiling.
 

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Ka-ching, y'all!
 
This whole "banning based on whatever they choose" business is silly. I decided to play rebel at my university after they banned it. I didn't vape indoors, but I did it outside on the campus in front of both faculty and security as the campus is both smoke and vape free apparently. Not one person looked offended or even concerned at my vaping. I guess what I'm trying to say is "I bet they are doing it for those $11 packs."
 

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This whole "banning based on whatever they choose" business is silly. I decided to play rebel at my university after they banned it. I didn't vape indoors, but I did it outside on the campus in front of both faculty and security as the campus is both smoke and vape free apparently. Not one person looked offended or even concerned at my vaping. I guess what I'm trying to say is "I bet they are doing it for those $11 packs."

Their stance is they don't want someone vaping inside, because then a smoker might think smoking is okay, and light up. In a sensible city, this could be solved by simply hanging signs saying "NO SMOKING OF TOBACCO, BUT VAPOR IS PERMITTED" - along with a sensible campaign of TV, radio, print, and internet ads promoting awareness of the issue. You know, like all those taxes are supposed to pay for, for smoking cessation products.

Pffft.

Their rep even admits in the article it's about appearances, and nothing about health, or money.

It's just a stupid rule, because someone might be confused. It's the same reason the airlines gave for banning them as well.

We all know the truth. We see them pop up on comment threads anywhere else when the subject comes up - it looks like smoking, and some people can't handle that, because if it even looks like smoking, then it's evil and bad and must be stamped out completely.

Yes, it's THAT dumb.

Personally, I think it should be left up to whoever owns the property. If it's a Federal building, let them decide. If it's a bar, let them allow it, and sell them for the poor schlubs who still smoke, so they don't have to go stand outside in the snow and rain, inhaling cancerous tobacco and exhaust fumes. If it's a college, allow it in some places, but not in classrooms, or the library, or in labs. Don't allow it in subway cars, but allow it in-between cars like they used to allow smoking, same with trains. Allow it on the platforms, but not inside the station.

You know, common sense.

But, we are talking about a city that banned certain sizes of soda, and are (I think) going after the dirty water hot dog vendors now, too.
 

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So health concerns have no bearing on this ban. This is 100% I dont like something there for it should not be. What a shame how do people like this get a position of authority? But then again it is NYC the whole place is kind of screwy

Maybe they should pick up the garbage laying everywhere that would make a big improvement in the air quality! I guess what really bothers me is of all the things our legislators need to focus on why are they worrying about such trivial issues?

This coming from someone who lives in TX?
 

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Im scared of this "confusion" if i am in NYC and take a vape from my itaste 134, someone might get confused and think I'm a jedi and want to challenge my light saber skills. A puff of suicide bunny carelessly blown can end my life by an off duty imperial stormtrooper. I'm so relieved that the city coundil has only my best interests in mind. I might have to only use a box mod to avoid certain death
 
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